I discovered a bug while using saves from that mod:
I used the modded completed save on Normal difficulty, and after starting a new game from it, I noticed that whenever I trigger an alert, there is no music for the Alert phase. Music would kick in for Evasion and Caution, but if you get spotted again, the music currently playing would stay instead of the Alert music taking over.
I think it's due to the fact that the original save is on European Extreme difficulty, where tirggering an alert gives a game over.
Not hating or anything but I would like to address somethings....
The health bar being set to the one used for EXTREME difficulty can actually softlock you in places where it's scripted to where Snake is injured (Red Bar) or if it's scripted to where Snake takes damage on lower difficulties like NORMAL, HARD, EASY and VERY EASY. This is because the game isn't scripted to calculate how much health Snake actually has, It's dependent on the difficulty selected. (Examples are the Bike Crash at the end of the game or Volgin punching Snake in the Torture Room before the cutscene)
(TESTED) Here is an example from personal experience, the tutorial part of the Virtuous Mission for when the CURE option is first available. This part instantly kills you as soon as your in gameplay. This is because Snake's red healthbar is greater than his normal healthbar. You have to manually edit your LIFE to be higher to avoid it as you can't increase your LIFE since CURE isn't available until Snake is thrown of the bridge by The Boss and that's where it softlocks. (Not like it matters though since you do lose your BACKPACKs items upon starting Operation Snake Eater)
(TESTED) The part where Volgin tortures Snake in the torture room on VERY EASY may also softlock if you didn't increase your health beforehand by healing injuries in CURE, cause Volgin does way too much damage than Snake's Default health in EXTREME and he can kill Snake this way, because normally the Healthbar on VERY EASY is the maximum health by default. (Upon testing, Snake's life decreases to a non fatal level no matter how small the life bar is, thus I was wrong.)
@YagamiKira There's more that needs to be fixed than just the health bar, plenty of other stuff isn't initialized properly since they just edited the difficulty value of the save file.
In other words, this mod really only works correctly if you're playing EUROPEAN EXTREME difficulty, otherwise everything is just sloppy edited.
Similar to the health bar softlock issue others have described, another problem that has been narrowed down to the saves in this mod:
Since all the saves are based off a modified EUROPEAN EXTREME game save, alert music WILL NOT work using this upload's saves - as the alert music is initialized based off variables set by the original EE difficult (which ends the game before you go into alerts.)
These saves are essentially busted; saves need to be initialized properly off the correct difficulty.
Kay well, now I'm screwed. The thing where Snake immediately dies at the first Cure event is happening to me on over half these saves, and I don't know what to do to fix it. At this point I want to just remove all the saves and start over getting all of this stuff myself, but I can't even get rid of the saves because they're now remembered and duplicated by Cloud every time I install the game. How do i fix this?? I literally can't play through the game anymore, as none of the saves are when Operation Snake Eater begins. Really dumb oversight and now I'm scouring the internet to find a solution.
Get past the launcher and then get to the actual main menu of the game, where the load game, new game, and other settings are, then alt+tab out of the game, go to the game's root folder and save folder where the .exe is, and then proceed to drag and drop the file you want.
Then alt+tab again into the game and click load game, it works!
The mod is not working for some reason, I went though the basic vortex procedure of downloading and enabling it but it doesnt seem to appear. Were would these save game files with all the weapons be? I guess Im just confuse don how it works.
Where is the stealth camo? ive checked a few files you have labeled with all weapons and items and i have not seen it? Thanks. Nevermind i actually forgot to check the backpack! lol thanks for the mod!
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I used the modded completed save on Normal difficulty, and after starting a new game from it, I noticed that whenever I trigger an alert, there is no music for the Alert phase. Music would kick in for Evasion and Caution, but if you get spotted again, the music currently playing would stay instead of the Alert music taking over.
I think it's due to the fact that the original save is on European Extreme difficulty, where tirggering an alert gives a game over.
The health bar being set to the one used for EXTREME difficulty can actually softlock you in places where it's scripted to where Snake is injured (Red Bar) or if it's scripted to where Snake takes damage on lower difficulties like NORMAL, HARD, EASY and VERY EASY. This is because the game isn't scripted to calculate how much health Snake actually has, It's dependent on the difficulty selected. (Examples are the Bike Crash at the end of the game
or Volgin punching Snake in the Torture Room before the cutscene)(TESTED)
Here is an example from personal experience, the tutorial part of the Virtuous Mission for when the CURE option is first available. This part instantly kills you as soon as your in gameplay. This is because Snake's red healthbar is greater than his normal healthbar. You have to manually edit your LIFE to be higher to avoid it as you can't increase your LIFE since CURE isn't available until Snake is thrown of the bridge by The Boss and that's where it softlocks.
(Not like it matters though since you do lose your BACKPACKs items upon starting Operation Snake Eater)
(TESTED)
The part where Volgin tortures Snake in the torture room on VERY EASY may also softlock if you didn't increase your health beforehand by healing injuries in CURE, cause Volgin does way too much damage than Snake's Default health in EXTREME and he can kill Snake this way, because normally the Healthbar on VERY EASY is the maximum health by default.(Upon testing, Snake's life decreases to a non fatal level no matter how small the life bar is, thus I was wrong.)
In other words, this mod really only works correctly if you're playing EUROPEAN EXTREME difficulty, otherwise everything is just sloppy edited.
Since all the saves are based off a modified EUROPEAN EXTREME game save, alert music WILL NOT work using this upload's saves - as the alert music is initialized based off variables set by the original EE difficult (which ends the game before you go into alerts.)
These saves are essentially busted; saves need to be initialized properly off the correct difficulty.
Get past the launcher and then get to the actual main menu of the game, where the load game, new game, and other settings are, then alt+tab out of the game, go to the game's root folder and save folder where the .exe is, and then proceed to drag and drop the file you want.
Then alt+tab again into the game and click load game, it works!
As explained in the explanation, data was copied during the game.