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  1. bingo201
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    I must install this mod after SBG or before to apply patch or install AHEM which contains AFCR and install SBG with compatiblity patch AHEM and AFCR? 
    1. beccatoria
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      If you are using AHEM you do not need to install this mod. It is already part of AHEM. Just follow the instructions for installing SBG and AHEM together. I personally don't know what those are, but you don't need to worry about this mod at all. It's all in AHEM.
    2. bingo201
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      Ok thank you for answering.
  2. Radiationbum
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    Can you please update this mod so that the scene plays like the original Extended Final Anderson Conversation from HelixSpirsal (JohnP), I used his mod for ME3 and he changed the timings and camera positioning to make the scene flow better check his one if you don't know what I mean, i think you'll agree the scene plays better in that one.
    1. beccatoria
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      Okay so no, for a whole bunch of reasons. Firstly it's not cool to straight up remake people's mods without permission. It's not okay with Nexus and that's a stance I agree with.

      Secondly, JohnP's mod is a mod I know well and have a lot of respect for. If you prefer it that is absolutely valid. But JohnP's is the version with more minimal artistic adjustments. It was made with a very primitive version of the tools, and a lot of the decisions were pragmatic (to hide missing facefx or replace broken camera shots). Again, this is not a criticism of that mod. What it achieved on that toolset is outstanding and I doubt I could have done it. But factually, its cinematic design was under much more extreme limitations.

      So any changes you see to what you're used to with JohnP's mod are things I did deliberately and carefully, because I wanted it to be that way. If you're interested in more on that, I did write up an article on the restoration process.

      And again, you do not have to agree with me. I'm genuinely fine with people liking a different version better and expect eventually alternate versions of this scene will be released. I don't own cut content, and people are welcome to do so!

      But I'd encourage you, the next time you leave feedback for a modder, not to assume that they made their mod in a particular way by accident or through ignorance, just because it's not your preference. If nothing else, "hey your mod is bad, make it like this other one that's better," isn't a winning strategy if your goal is to get someone to do extra work for you... ;)
    2. Radiationbum
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      Ok, I just thought that based on the differences between both mods and how JohnP said he tweaked the scenes to smooth out the rough patches, that yours was more of a barebones reintroduction of the scene not modified from the unpolished state that had been cut from the game by the devs, and that you could and would have the know how to tweak it in a similar way JohnP did to the original mod, and not a exact copy unless you got permission from him, which I didn't think needed to be said. 

      If i had the know how myself i would do it myself, but i wouldn't know where to begin as I really dont understand how to make mods, thanks anyway.
    3. beccatoria
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      I mean, the mod description is super short and this is the first paragraph: 

      This mod restores cut content, extending the final conversation with Anderson. Facial animation, gestures, camera work and musical cues have all been reworked extensively, to hopefully provide a polished, professional interpretation of the scene.

      So again, I'm not trying to be the bad guy here, but you did kinda show up to give me modding advice, after assuming I'd done a rush job - that I knew how to make these sorts of edits, but didn't bother - without reading like...a single sentence of the mod page. 

      For the rest, JohnP did tweak rough patches, but not as extensively as I did. Again, that's not a criticism - different toolset, different goals, different preferences. Unfortunately people do ask for other modders to straight up port mods and redo mods, so it does need to be said. I totally accept that wasn't your intention in this instance, but that's why I addressed it. 

      If you want to try your hand at modding your own version of the scene, check out the article I posted in the articles section and scroll to the bottom. There's some links to some of the resources I used. The documentation for the toolset is much better than it used to be. I don't come from a programming background and I learned to do this. So can you if you want to.
    4. Radiationbum
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      I'll check the article out, and give it a go.
  3. sarahbanta
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    this had me ugly-crying. i have no idea why they'd cut this from the game, it's an absolutely beautiful send-off for Anderson. THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US THIS GIFT.
    1. BoetBoa
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      Me too! Really impactful bit of dialogue, really stupid decision to remove it on Bioware's part.
    2. swollsy
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      People believe this was remove because the line were Anderson states he never had a child is wrong and that he actually has a son named Jason from his ex-wife Cynthia. While not directly known or not it is kind of hinted at in he Shadow Broker's Dossiers.
    3. beccatoria
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      I seriously doubt they got all the way through script approval, recording, sequencing and putting the entire thing, mostly finished, into the game before someone went "crap, this emotionally impactful moment is amazing, but changes the implications of a codex entry!" Not in a game where you have things like Samara's dialogue about her daughters directly contradicting the ardat-yakshi codex entry in the same game

      I think it's a shame they removed it, but it was probably because someone had a more direct artistic reason, or due to time or budgetary constraints. 

      As for Jason, as you say the dossier is unclear. He could have been Jason's stepfather for several years, or be an uncle-figure. I agree that at the time it was written it was probably intended Jason be Anderson's son but there's no outright conflict here.
  4. Izenphine
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    Thank you so much for this <3 
  5. Colll
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    does this comflict with this mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/1017?tab=posts
    1. beccatoria
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      I have not tested it but looking at the files they should not conflict.
  6. melogar4
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    Hey man, simple question : do you know if there's CEM for LE ? I want to do the transition but i don't think it is available for that version.
    Thanks for your answer :)
    1. Katschaba
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      Not yet, but there are plans for it to be. You can check AHEM's page for that.
    2. beccatoria
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      Yeah, I'm not working on that. I didn't work on AHEM specifically either, I just gave permission to incorporate this mod into it. I don't know anything more about it than anyone else here. But I believe that the AHEM dev is working on it, so as Katschaba suggests, you might want to check there for updates.
  7. kettlepetal
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    Now, why in the hell did they cut this from the game????? Those video's of this mod have got me sitting here sobbing like an idiot while a stupid Miranda butt-shots restoration mod is downloading in the background. 
    1. skolopendron
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      I laughed so hard at your comment with background butt :D :D ty
  8. MacedonianMuse
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    This is wonderful, the reflection and just everything. I could have cried. So much I could say, but of course, I don't want to spoil it for others. It gave a new level of friendship and love between the two, Father and child, and comrade's in arms, mentor, and student even. Thank you for making this.
    1. beccatoria
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      Thank you! I really appreciate knowing you enjoy it!
  9. Stoffer55000
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    Does this work with the TEB mod? Also known as "Take Earth Back" (mod that restores a lot of cut dialogue etc)

    https://www.nexusmods.com/masseffectlegendaryedition/mods/16
    1. beccatoria
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      Yeah, TEB doesn't edit anything after the beam run, so they'll work together.
  10. Excea
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    This is excellent. It adds so much to this final conversation, a brief reflection of what ifs and could've beens between two very battered protagonists. Endorsed.
    1. beccatoria
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      Thank you for taking the time to let me know you enjoyed it!