Hey there thank you for making this mod, I am running into a similar issue that King DustinII had with Arrival's timing although in my case it simply is not appearing whatsoever, I had it set to appear after both Horizon and the collector base but it is not appearing after I completed the suicide mission. I tried leaving the ship and coming back but it still did not show up. I also tried a fresh install of this mod to the latest version since I was using an older version from 2022 but I still am running into the same issue. I don't think I have any mods that are conflicting the only one that comes to mind would as a possibility is the Anderson and Hackett Consistency mod since it alters Hackett's appearance but it could just be me grasping at straws. I'm pretty sure I first installed this mod before I entered the Normandy the first time on the savegame I'm currently using. If its alright would you mind taking a look at my diagnostic files to see if there's something causing this?
Here is the diagnostic: https://me3tweaks.com/modmanager/logservice/logviewer?logid=f15d8644f372fb815c3727f25697a1f4
The shadowbroker dlc and overlord triggered properly on both my current savegame and on another newer savegame I started last month. Its only Arrival that I'm having this problem with. I also read in the uninstallation portion of the mod page that unistalling causes delayed dlcs to immediately unlock, do you think that could be an option for getting Arrival to appear? It maybe a bit janky but I would be ok with uninstalling this mod to cause it to appear then reinstalling it after I played Arrival if that is what it comes too.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, I hope this turns out to be an easy fix.
I've been inspecting this in detail and do not see anything obviously being in conflict to affect the Arrival timer. There's however a great discrepancy between some mod versions and a few incompatibilities that will become actual problems if you try to start a new playthrough. As a result, I suggest you trying to update all of your mods to the most up to date version and consider whether you want the Prologue Framework or GIDUM (there's currently no patch between both mods). I am not sure how the outdated versions could cause issues, but seeing some stuff seems to be using their 2022 versions, while others use 2024 ones, I can only suggest ensuring everything is up to date.
Alternatively, you can just disable (no need to uninstall; although both options are accessible from the Manage Target button on the Mod Manager) DLC Timings temporarily to ensure the Arrival triggering.
If nothing works, can you submit a new diagnostic and attach your savegame this time?
So I updated all of my mods to their most recent version and I fired it up but still ran into the same issue, I also disabled the dlc timing mod and Arrival still didn't trigger so I ran a new diagnostic and selected the option to attach my save game information so hopefully it is attached.
Here is the new diagnostic: https://me3tweaks.com/modmanager/logservice/logviewer?logid=233b0faeb5b2fb50b9eb6312fb61747b
I do have a new theory for what happened though, when I attached my save game file, I realized that the first save is from 2021 and I think I may have downloaded this mod before I got to Horizon but because it was after I boarded the Normandy for the first time that may have messed with the triggers for Arrival but I remember layer of the shadow broker and overlord triggering at the right time so if this is indeed the cause I'm surprised it was just arrival that got messed up. Then again this is all conjecture on my part, would you still be willing to take a look at the new diagnostic? Also thank you for the help you have given me so far, I really appreciate it.
OK, so I am checking your savegame and the quest is already granted and pointing you towards going to Aratoth. I wonder if you originally installed this mod after you got the call from Hackett back in 2021. The mod does not retroactively edit already granted missions.
In any case, just in case you wanted to play Arrival all from the beginning and since I was already checking your savegame; here's an edited copy of your savegame to replace yours, which has the start of the DLC undone for you (the call with Hackett). The moment the savegame is loaded you should get a pop-up notification telling you to check your messages terminal and Kelly will also announce it.
Thanks, I've not actually installed a downloaded savegame before, is it just like installing a mod normally into ME3Tweaks mod manager? Or do I need to open up the file and unzip it to Documents > Bioware > Mass Effect Legendary Edition > Save > ME2 then copy paste it to replace the original savegame?
"It REQUIRES acquiring the Hammerhead beforehand, which means playing through the first Firewalker quest (Rosalie Lost). This can be done before Horizon, but the trigger for Overlord won't happen after that."
"This can be done before Horizon, but the trigger for Overlord won't happen after that." - What does this actually mean? Do I HAVE to do Rosalie Lost before Horizon for Overlord to trigger after it or can I do Rosalie Lost after Horizon and still have Overlord trigger?
"Requires getting the Hammerhead in advance" - By that I assume you mean Prior Horizon; but if I acquire the Hammerhead after Horizon will I be locked out of Overlord?
For reference I'm using the mod options that you recommended in a previous comment.
Hi! Sorry for the confusion. Let me clarify. Overlord will not trigger until 2 conditions are met. The first of them is to play Rosalie Lost to acquire the Hammerhead (which can be done before Horizon as the timing of this quest was not modified, but also after). The second condition is to reach the normal time that Overlord would trigger in a vanilla game, which would be after Horizon if that install option was chosen.
Could I somehow manually remove Crash site from this mod? I'm using Legion module of early recruitment and love to have him when I meet the council. And I love to do that first thing. Everything else I love about this mod (and wouldn' mind the Crashsite thing if not for my guy Legion, because your explenation of the delay makes perfect sense). Or does Zaeed loyalty count as Mission to unlock Crash site? If it does, I can do that first.
Any quest that triggers the "Mission Complete" screen with the Illusive Man will count to unlock the Crash site. So yes, Zaeed's loyalty would work, or for example any other N7 mission around the Omega Cluster (like Lost Cerberus Operative on Lorek) while heading to Alchera to find your robofriend 😃
Yeah, I can see how that phrasing is confusing. I meant to exclude quests like helping Ken on Omega, or the fish for the krogan on the Citadel. But yes, Kasumi and Zaeed both count.
Hello. Love the mod for the most part, however I am running into an issue with Arrival's timing. The Overlord DLC is properly triggering according to how I have set it when installing the mod i.e Overlord post Horizon, and Lair of the Shadow broker's timing is working fine as well. I have Arrival set to trigger after both Lair of the Shadow Broker and the Suicide Mission, but I'm still getting hijacked by Hackett as soon as I finish Horizon.
Here is my diag: https://me3tweaks.com/modmanager/logservice/logviewer?logid=4587f421d1eaf554332b94281c173baa
P.s. I tried to hyperlink the URL but it wouldn't load to the page for some reason. I can only get copy/paste to work.
Ok, after more than hour pulling my hairs out, because I could not see what was wrong in my mod, I have just discovered that this mod is overriding all the internal mechanics of mine: Alternative behaviour of LE2 NewGame bonuses. I suggest you to Disable (not delete) this mod right after you get your bonuses. My mod has several routines running through the Normandy at all times and this other mod is overriding all of my edits.
Unfortunately, you will need an earlier save before finishing Horizon; as the DLC timings are not retroactively edited.
P.S.: I am checking, and this mod is actually overriding other mod of yours like Casual Hubs.
Idk if this was just on my end but searching for updates on the mod manager didn't flag this mod as having an update. If I hadn't caught that there was an update while browsing nexus, I probable would've run into problems with compatibility with the LE2 patch.
This isn't the only mod Ive had not notify me of an update (through the mod manager) so I had to go through my entire mod list and look for updates manually. It didnt take too long luckily.
I've checked with Mgamerz and we can't reproduce this issue. Since taboopiano is mentioning other mods showing this buggy behavior, I wonder if the problem is somehow with Nexus. Our tests provided an update prompt for this mod.
For those who didn't receive email for Lair of Shadow Broker READ this, there are ACTUALLY 2 side missions for Liara. First one of course you are familiar with this then the second one also hacking mission located nearby Liara's office, you have to talk to Liara again for that mission to trigger. I discovered this recently because that second mission is automatically finished when you are starting Lair of Shadow Broker DLC in unmodded game.
Hello! I want to be sure: if I want to use Trigger Buttons and your mod, I have to - install Trigger Buttons - install your mod - set the DLCs as I see fit except for Arrival for which only the vanilla option will be available.
Wait a minute. I cannot believe I didn't connect the dots before but that means that if I use Trigger Buttons and your mod, Hackett will contact me right after Horizon... well, that's too bad. I'm really wonering if I'll install Trigger Buttons now. LOL
I think Trigger Buttons makes you manually choose when Hackett calls you. Should be essentially a "cheat button" to tell the game yes, I'm ready for this part of the story to happen now, with the button being available for use not before than the vanilla triggering (this means the button should only appear after Horizon, not before; but you can ignore it until you want it). But unless you press it, you should not be Hackett ambushed.
Thanks a lot for replying, especially since it was about another mod. Really cool of you.
After reading your comment, I went on the Trigger Buttons page and you're right: the button appears after Horizon and all I have to do is press it. I should have checked that sooner instead of bothering you, so again, thanks a lot ^_^
I'd appreciate a standalone mod instead, The only standalone mod like this existing is for original ME3, and the creator refuses to make a version for LE3.
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Here is the diagnostic: https://me3tweaks.com/modmanager/logservice/logviewer?logid=f15d8644f372fb815c3727f25697a1f4
The shadowbroker dlc and overlord triggered properly on both my current savegame and on another newer savegame I started last month. Its only Arrival that I'm having this problem with. I also read in the uninstallation portion of the mod page that unistalling causes delayed dlcs to immediately unlock, do you think that could be an option for getting Arrival to appear? It maybe a bit janky but I would be ok with uninstalling this mod to cause it to appear then reinstalling it after I played Arrival if that is what it comes too.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, I hope this turns out to be an easy fix.
Alternatively, you can just disable (no need to uninstall; although both options are accessible from the Manage Target button on the Mod Manager) DLC Timings temporarily to ensure the Arrival triggering.
If nothing works, can you submit a new diagnostic and attach your savegame this time?
Here is the new diagnostic: https://me3tweaks.com/modmanager/logservice/logviewer?logid=233b0faeb5b2fb50b9eb6312fb61747b
I do have a new theory for what happened though, when I attached my save game file, I realized that the first save is from 2021 and I think I may have downloaded this mod before I got to Horizon but because it was after I boarded the Normandy for the first time that may have messed with the triggers for Arrival but I remember layer of the shadow broker and overlord triggering at the right time so if this is indeed the cause I'm surprised it was just arrival that got messed up. Then again this is all conjecture on my part, would you still be willing to take a look at the new diagnostic? Also thank you for the help you have given me so far, I really appreciate it.
In any case, just in case you wanted to play Arrival all from the beginning and since I was already checking your savegame; here's an edited copy of your savegame to replace yours, which has the start of the DLC undone for you (the call with Hackett). The moment the savegame is loaded you should get a pop-up notification telling you to check your messages terminal and Kelly will also announce it.
Let me know if it works for you! 😃
Or do I need to open up the file and unzip it to Documents > Bioware > Mass Effect Legendary Edition > Save > ME2 then copy paste it to replace the original savegame?
"This can be done before Horizon, but the trigger for Overlord won't happen after that." - What does this actually mean? Do I HAVE to do Rosalie Lost before Horizon for Overlord to trigger after it or can I do Rosalie Lost after Horizon and still have Overlord trigger?
"Requires getting the Hammerhead in advance" - By that I assume you mean Prior Horizon; but if I acquire the Hammerhead after Horizon will I be locked out of Overlord?
For reference I'm using the mod options that you recommended in a previous comment.
Thanks in advance.
I hope this clarifies it.
Here is my diag: https://me3tweaks.com/modmanager/logservice/logviewer?logid=4587f421d1eaf554332b94281c173baa
P.s. I tried to hyperlink the URL but it wouldn't load to the page for some reason. I can only get copy/paste to work.
Unfortunately, you will need an earlier save before finishing Horizon; as the DLC timings are not retroactively edited.
P.S.: I am checking, and this mod is actually overriding other mod of yours like Casual Hubs.
- install Trigger Buttons
- install your mod
- set the DLCs as I see fit except for Arrival for which only the vanilla option will be available.
Did I get that right?
In any case, thanks for the reply
After reading your comment, I went on the Trigger Buttons page and you're right: the button appears after Horizon and all I have to do is press it. I should have checked that sooner instead of bothering you, so again, thanks a lot ^_^