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1) Don't fill it with weirdly vicious Jacob hate, I'm not about that.
2) If something's busted post a log + diag. I can't help you without a log + diag. Here's how to generate one:
if you have miranda mod installed she can participate in the actual mission as that mod would usually allow her to.
if you romanced jacob in me2 and stuck with him as the assassin in me3 there's a little extra content for him as he'll be your party LI and react to you appropriately in his citadel meetups and stuff.
but again, it's a compatibility patch, it's not a big expansion of the mod.
While writing this i do have a suggestion however... Or well maybe, I imagine it'd be some effort to get it to work, just not as much work as whats above. What if during the assassin Jacob timeline, Miranda, provided she survives his attack on Horizon, works to try and help him like Jacob does for her. What i mean is like adding a feature if used with the Miranda Mod. Idk how well it'd work with the Miranda assassin plotline still being possible, but i can see just adding a voiceline while she's on the Normandy expressing interest in saving her or having her mention Jacob on Chronos Station would be pretty cool. Ofc, this is just an idea and one you've probably already thought about, but i have the tism and i must give you my thoughts lol
Last thing, your work is always great. Love it
on your first point, i understand you aren't trying to be negative, but i do feel like it's worth pointing out this would turn all the content in a mod i spent 4 years working on, into a failstate most players would effortlessly avoid (most people do not play sub-optimally, and many find it difficult to convince themselves to do so even on repeated playthroughs). i hope you can understand why that's not a particularly appealing idea to me. at that point, people can just choose to disable the mod for their next playthrough.
i also cannot make this mod compatible with other leng replacer mods without hundreds of hours of work because of the way patching works for this game. if i could have done it in an easy way i would have (since techncially you can still end up with leng while this mod is installed if both jacob and miranda die). about two-thirds of the mod's file size is already made up of compatibility patches, i'm pretty committed to the crazy workload to get that done. but i have to draw a line somewhere. and the tl;dr here is that even if i DID do what you suggest it wouldn't result in a situation where you'd just "get" kai leng reworked's content if you installed it. not without an exhaustive amount of additional work.
for the second point, you're essentially suggesting i start editorialising and expanding miranda mod. but, while i am very grateful to have been given permission to patch for it, it's not my mod. in these situations, i try to keep narrative edits to the minimum necessary and always fully discuss with the other author. this is also assuming i could even come up with a suitable line which is far from certain. miranda's lines for the scenes where she does discuss jacob were very challenging to create.
so again, sorry to be negative, but this is not something i plan to do.
though i am still, of course, very glad you enjoy the mod in general.
Again, it was really all food for thought, i never expected a "Yes, thats a great idea, i'll implement it right away!" lol I just had a thought, thought it sounded kinda cool and commented it. What you have done is amazing tho and Im glad to hear the CEM patch finally worked out, forgot to mention that
I don't really see the VS working that well to be honest, I think the the level of retconning would be a bit much. but i know others seem to like the idea and there was some OT mod that did something like that (i don't think it's still available) so maybe someone else will make a mod like that for legendary edition some day.
This will be quick dw lol, but i agree while a really cool idea, its also stupid save for one thing. If it was a clone/robot of the Virmire casualty, that way its not like IM just brought back Ash/Kaidan from a f*#@ing nuke blast. The robot would be kinda cool if a bit weird, i can see since its just a robot of the VC it just dies no matter what so Shepard gets even more PTSD from having to kill them twice. And Shep with more PTSD is always fun. Adds some spice to the tired moments and the dreams
Please don't misunderstand: I don't mean to rush or push or whatnot... I'm just genuinely excited. <3 Keeping an eye open, is all.
Thank you for this mod, as it fulfills a dream a friend had, and I jumped onto. It's brilliant!
Ironically, I didn't like Jacob, Bioware's writing made me squint... but this...?
I am invested in saving him- 'cause I *want* to. You made me like a character done so dirty by the writers'.
I wanted to thank you for that, oh my God.
(I always have Miranda tell the Illusive Man to go bugger himself, so Jacob ended up my assassin.)
If it's okay, I have two questions/issues? Very minor compared to my enjoyment of the mod, but I hope it's okay to ask?
One small thing came up during the Cerberus HQ fight I just finished: I had trouble targeting Miranda and Cerberus enemies in the middle (breakable?/broken) areas of the platform with my Vanguard's Charge; I could target enemies on the edge of the battleground but not the center? Shepard wasn't saying "Can't target them"; those enemies didn't show up as targets for the Charge and the game just did the little beep when you're trying to do an invalid command. It's my first time playing a Vanguard in ME3, so I don't know if Charge is an attack that just doesn't work for that fight, maybe? I wasn't sure if you would want a diagnostic about it, since it's a tiny issue. I had Kai Leng Reworked installed but disabled for this playthrough, so maybe there was still a conflict there? When I update my mod list after this Shep is done, I am making sure any conflicts are left uninstalled altogether. I thought disabling would be enough, but maybe it's best to have a clean slate from the get-go.
One question I had about the latest update: It says the assassin can now do sync attacks in melee. If I install a mod that disables sync kills, will your mod's combat follow that rule? I'm not sure how cross-mod dynamics work. (The mod is "No Instant Death - Disable Sync Kills (LE3)." It disables sync kills including by phantoms, which I assume is where Kai Leng and Miranda/Jacob's sync attacks come from?)
for your questions/comments -
i am fairly certain that's a vanilla issue, not anything i'm doing. in mass effect 2 vanguard's inability to reliable get a lock on targets is a famous issue, and i'm fairly sure i've seen people making similar complaints in 3, even if it's not quite as bad. i know that enemies being partially in cover, or line of sight blocked can prevent clean charge lines.
my guess - if you've compared to the vanilla fight and found this one worse - is that the changes i made to the fight make it more likely that you're aiming at characters at a different height/behind a blocking volume (even if not one that's obvious/one that you feel should block a targeting line). it's possible my changes worsen this because you can now detonate cover in any order, so enemies may have more or less cover options than usual, there are more possible height shifts/cover options in play earlier in the fight. and i actually also add some blocking volumes and extra props between the areas. (without getting into a long explanation, i had to do this to keep the cover and barriers consistent now that the weak floor plates could be destroyed in any order).
but i haven't changed anything about vanguard charge, targeting, how cover works, or anything like that. the only enemy whose behaviour i edited was the assassin.
my guess is that this is a vanilla issue, potentially more obvious in the fight due to my changes. but it's likely not something i have the technical skill to address.
for the second question, the sync attack i mean is the hand to hand tussle the assassin and shepard get into at the very start of the fight. you would always start the fight that way, even in the version of the mod you have. but i originally disabled the assassin's ability to use it after that point as i was having issues with it.
those are resolved now, so the sync attacks are back in as a combat option. since it's not the phantom's sync kill move we're talking about (and since that mod looks like a coalesced mod and i don't think that you could disable what i've done here for this specific setup via coalesced) i don't think these mods will impact each other at all in this regard.
hope you enjoy the new version when you play it! :D
Ah, okay. I was misunderstanding about the sync attack. Good to know! Thank you for explaining that.
Also, I just wanted to reiterate how much I appreciate this mod and all the work you've done. Jacob is not my favorite, either, but in part I feel like Bioware never really gave him a chance to be much of anyone's favorite? He sort of keeps Shepard at arm's length in ME2 and then they do nothing with his writing in ME3; it was so disappointing in vanilla. Now, you've crafted a whole arc, no matter which way the story goes. And I just love that you built on and enriched the friendship between Miranda and Jacob. There were hints of that in ME2--I got into the habit of taking Miranda on Jacob's loyalty mission, for example. This mod enhances so much more than just Shepard's dynamic with the assassin. It's really remarkable. Thank you so much for your passion for Mass Effect. <3
Apologies if I've been blind and just missed the answer somewhere ^^;
that said, i didn't test this specifically and it's a complicated mod plot-wise. so there may be something i'm missing...
I played ME2 and had loyal Miranda, meanwhile I totally NEGLECTED JACOB, only spoke to him at the very first mission after you wake up.
I played the whole game, my ears bled cuz of how many times Kelly said Jacob wants to see you.
I know that I didn't choose Miranda for any role in SM. I got Miranda as the Assassin....
Am sorry, but this mod should prioritize LOYALTY and General relationship rating (seen in the Save Editor) over SM Choices
the mod’s faq explains exactly how the assassin is chosen, what factors matter, and how to edit your save if you want a guaranteed outcome. the narrative logic is deliberate: jacob’s loyalty affects his heroic arc rescuing oriana, but not whether he’s the assassin, because he’s already skeptical of cerberus. he’s always going to leave - the question is whether miranda leaves early as well. miranda staying longer is consistent with how she clings to cerberus even when the evidence is damning. her loyalty to shepard, and the opportunity to act on that during the suicide mission, reflects how likely that is to happen.
you say it "should" be tied only to loyalty or the relationship counter, but don’t really explain why that would be better. most players who mod the game will have both loyal/with completed dialogue tracks anyway, so the only way to influence it would be to skip content. i don't think tha's good design and doesn’t reflect the story i want. “the assassin is whoever shepard likes least” isn’t the narrative i’m telling.
you can either play it blind and see how it plays out, or use the tools i provided to get the outcome you want. but it’s not reasonable to assume how the mod works, skip the faq, then get upset when it doesn’t match that assumption.
Am sorry for the complaint, it is merely a frustration in which I caused for myself by misreading the FAQ and description.
I am also, not the best in terms of expressing in english
I might have misread the FAQ and I didn't know how the game handles Jacob and Miranda's ties to Cerberus. I thought they both cut ties from Cerberus no matter the outcome of the SM & roles assignment. But I think this flag is an oversight by Bioware in which you utilized in your mod
The "should" part was intended as I "wish" though, its my fault.
Thank you kindly.
if you use CEM you will get to interact with them during the post-game section. but if you aren't using that mod then no, they stay in a coma for the remainder of the playable game. because you rescue them literally right before you begin the final mission. and indoctrination is incurable. at that point, at least. i figure after the reapers are defeated there would be many more options there. but at the point you rescue them i wanted to respect the seriousness of indoctrination in the setting.