honestly guys, this is a mod that lets you punch a dude in frustration in a game that lets you punch a lot of people because you're frustrated.
apparently that just drives some people absolutely wild. i've gotten more s#*! for this mod, and more weird DMs over it than i have for like...the mod i made where i deliberately restored the ME3 release endings and those broke the entire internet.
so after having had to clean up the comments section yet again i'm just gonna lock them. it's been a ride, but i can't be bothered to deal with it at this point.
This is one of those most "necessary" mods ever, right up there with two bears high fiving. I'm inspired... and a little unsure but I think I'd love to put together a mod for this mod that replaces the punch sound effect with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX2EfnTc_Eg
i have no problem with people editing my mods for personal use (it's how i got my first start in modding these games after all) so i would give you pointers on your project if i could. unfortunately adding new audio to LE1 is something that wasn't even possible until very recently because of the archaic audio middleware it uses. we do now have a copy of that and some ability to work with LE1 audio but it's still limited and not extensively documented. and my personal experience with audio work for LE is with the second and third games, which use an entirely different system.
the legendary explorer wiki has some basic tutorials on how to get sound into the game. unfortunately i don't believe this includes non-streaming audio (i.e. sound effects) so i'm not sure what you want to do is currently possible. or if it is, might be advanced and quite technical. to be honest audio work within LE generally tends to be at the trickier end of things.
It is ALWAYS awesome to punch a bigot and a racist clean in the face.
What REALLY irritated me about him and his followers, is the fact that they are screaming out these bigoted, anti-alien slogans, ON AN ALIEN STATION. Like, do the truly lack ANY level of self awareness? Just like the bigots in real life, lol.
YOU CANNOT JUST THE PUNCH SOMEONE FOR THE HAVING THE DIFFERING OPINIONS HOW DARE YOU
Okay but being serious I like this mod. And that's the fun thing about freedom, it cuts both ways. Just as he and his gang of dumbass racists sadly have the apparent freedom to spout their stupid xenophobic bollocks I have the freedom to not have to take that s#*! and shut him up. And even when you point out the blatant racists in his party he still tries to justify keeping them with the old "FREEZE PEACH" s#*! so punching him is extra justified. He knows about their racism and that his party's goal is just a bad smokescreen and doesn't care. f*#@ him.
At least with punching Dr. Manuel you could argue he'll just go more nuts later on, and punching Khalisah is a big meme. (FTR I don't but only because if I win the Charm or Intimidate checks, I find that in her case, words hurt more.)
Disagree with someone politically? Best punch them 8D Edit: To be clear, I don't agree with the punching reporter nor the scientist at the beginning either.
List of people you can punch in Mass Effect 1 includes a reporter who is doing her job but being kind of snarky and a doctor having a mental health episode who is harming no one - I think maybe it's fine to add "xenophobic space fascist" without worrying too much.
Alrighty...I didn't say this crossed a line, was making a joke given the social climate we sadly live in. As for why I commented so fast, I check mods daily, just happened to see your mod and wanted to comment. That's it.
As for Shoot Elnora Even Faster, did you read my comment? It says "To this day I am amazed by her "brilliance". Trio kills a bunch of her comrades, they're still facing her, and her thought is "Lemme go for my gun"." I was commenting on the action in the game itself, not even saying anything positive or negative to the mod.
And lastly, I didn't think of those words together. Again, just making a comment like I said.
as i said that was originally what i was hoping your comment was intended as. hence my own semi serious response. but your edited amendment seems pretty clear it was actual disapproval. and yeah the fact that *wasn't* your response to the elnora mod (like you can describe it as a neutral comment if you want but it's clearly not *disapproving*) is relevant *if* that's the case. if it isn't the case then fine but your edited comment really really makes it seem that way. i'm clearly not the only person who thinks so.
Saying I don't think this crosses a line, and being neutral isn't the same. I don't agree with it, yes. But I'm not going to actually say you're wrong for making it. There's an audience for it as comments and downloads have shown.
I think it might be time to just... put down the keyboard on this one. You aren't winning any hearts and minds here, and if you're not a fan of the mod, you don't have to take the time out of your day to tell the author that you're not. You know? There are plenty of mods on here that I don't agree with for one reason or another, but it's just not necessary to roll up snarking. As you acknowledge, there's clearly an audience for this, and people who appreciate it for what it is. You don't need to wade in to defend Charles Saracino's honour or whatever.
I wasn't looking to change anyone's mind. Like you said, it was a snarky comment. Had I known it get like this where it seems I've offended someone...I'd probably do it again.
i'm honestly baffled what point you're trying to make here. i was taking about the elnora mod not mine when i mentioned neutral comments. so as far as i can see, you're...agreeing that you disapprove of this mod more than you disapprove of the elnora mod. and i maintain that's a pretty contradictory position.
but look. i'm done with this conversation. you're the one who raised this, raised it explicitly as an ethical issue, and then doubled down on that to make sure no one could misunderstand and think you were just making a snarky comment about Shepard's sub par problem solving skills (as i originally thought you might be). then when i AGAIN hoped this was getting blown out of proportion due to a misunderstanding you again went out of your way to come back and clarify no you definitely think the mod is like a bdsm novel you think is terrible.
so okay you think it's morally uncomfortable to punch someone over a difference of political opinion. but when i tried to ask you questions about that, to engage with it, you start splitting hairs on definitions instead of answering. who cares if you think it "crosses a line" vs you "disagree with it". who cares if the comment on the elnora mod was positive or neutral - in either case it was more *relatively* positive than your comment here. it's sophistry and it's tiring.
so i echo a previous suggestion to let this go. i'm on vacation and really not in the mood to be dealing with fires in my comments section because someone got offended i wanted to punch a fictional asshat. but since we're here, i will not be responding further and if this continues any further i will start freezing comments.
ETA - yeah okay i missed this comment as it went up while i was typing.
?I wasn't looking to change anyone's mind. Like you said, it was a snarky comment. Had I known it get like this where it seems I've offended someone...I'd probably do it again.
this makes it pretty clear you're just here at this point to cause problems i don't feel like dealing with, so i'm going to prevent you from doing so further.
idk, i think i'll go with ashley william's assessment of terra firma tbh. not like she's pro-alien.
though for real, the number of people who take time out of their day to be weird about this mod is wild to me. honestly i've gotten weirder reactions to this than the time i released a mod that restored the pre-extended cut endings, and they broke the entire internet.
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The author has locked this comment topic for the time beingapparently that just drives some people absolutely wild. i've gotten more s#*! for this mod, and more weird DMs over it than i have for like...the mod i made where i deliberately restored the ME3 release endings and those broke the entire internet.
so after having had to clean up the comments section yet again i'm just gonna lock them. it's been a ride, but i can't be bothered to deal with it at this point.
i have no problem with people editing my mods for personal use (it's how i got my first start in modding these games after all) so i would give you pointers on your project if i could. unfortunately adding new audio to LE1 is something that wasn't even possible until very recently because of the archaic audio middleware it uses. we do now have a copy of that and some ability to work with LE1 audio but it's still limited and not extensively documented. and my personal experience with audio work for LE is with the second and third games, which use an entirely different system.
the legendary explorer wiki has some basic tutorials on how to get sound into the game. unfortunately i don't believe this includes non-streaming audio (i.e. sound effects) so i'm not sure what you want to do is currently possible. or if it is, might be advanced and quite technical. to be honest audio work within LE generally tends to be at the trickier end of things.
It is ALWAYS awesome to punch a bigot and a racist clean in the face.
What REALLY irritated me about him and his followers, is the fact that they are screaming out these bigoted, anti-alien slogans, ON AN ALIEN STATION. Like, do the truly lack ANY level of self awareness? Just like the bigots in real life, lol.
Oh I can't wait to deck him!
also i know what you mean, like, it does add an extra layer of surreality to the whole thing...
Okay but being serious I like this mod. And that's the fun thing about freedom, it cuts both ways. Just as he and his gang of dumbass racists sadly have the apparent freedom to spout their stupid xenophobic bollocks I have the freedom to not have to take that s#*! and shut him up. And even when you point out the blatant racists in his party he still tries to justify keeping them with the old "FREEZE PEACH" s#*! so punching him is extra justified. He knows about their racism and that his party's goal is just a bad smokescreen and doesn't care. f*#@ him.
At least with punching Dr. Manuel you could argue he'll just go more nuts later on, and punching Khalisah is a big meme. (FTR I don't but only because if I win the Charm or Intimidate checks, I find that in her case, words hurt more.)
Tracked so I can grab it next time /laugh
Edit: To be clear, I don't agree with the punching reporter nor the scientist at the beginning either.
As for Shoot Elnora Even Faster, did you read my comment? It says "To this day I am amazed by her "brilliance". Trio kills a bunch of her comrades, they're still facing her, and her thought is "Lemme go for my gun"." I was commenting on the action in the game itself, not even saying anything positive or negative to the mod.
And lastly, I didn't think of those words together. Again, just making a comment like I said.
Just like Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey
There are plenty of mods on here that I don't agree with for one reason or another, but it's just not necessary to roll up snarking.
As you acknowledge, there's clearly an audience for this, and people who appreciate it for what it is. You don't need to wade in to defend Charles Saracino's honour or whatever.
but look. i'm done with this conversation. you're the one who raised this, raised it explicitly as an ethical issue, and then doubled down on that to make sure no one could misunderstand and think you were just making a snarky comment about Shepard's sub par problem solving skills (as i originally thought you might be). then when i AGAIN hoped this was getting blown out of proportion due to a misunderstanding you again went out of your way to come back and clarify no you definitely think the mod is like a bdsm novel you think is terrible.
so okay you think it's morally uncomfortable to punch someone over a difference of political opinion. but when i tried to ask you questions about that, to engage with it, you start splitting hairs on definitions instead of answering. who cares if you think it "crosses a line" vs you "disagree with it". who cares if the comment on the elnora mod was positive or neutral - in either case it was more *relatively* positive than your comment here. it's sophistry and it's tiring.
so i echo a previous suggestion to let this go. i'm on vacation and really not in the mood to be dealing with fires in my comments section because someone got offended i wanted to punch a fictional asshat. but since we're here, i will not be responding further and if this continues any further i will start freezing comments.
ETA - yeah okay i missed this comment as it went up while i was typing.
this makes it pretty clear you're just here at this point to cause problems i don't feel like dealing with, so i'm going to prevent you from doing so further.
It's more than OK to punch them.
though for real, the number of people who take time out of their day to be weird about this mod is wild to me. honestly i've gotten weirder reactions to this than the time i released a mod that restored the pre-extended cut endings, and they broke the entire internet.
hope you enjoy it in the game!