Requires Frosty Mod Manager (please make sure you have latest version and running it as administrator) Need to know Twin Sara will use Scott's voice and appear as Scott in CC Twin Scott will use Sara's Voice and appear as Sara in CC
Can I use this on a current save? Or do I need to start a new game? You can use this both on a current playthrough and a new playthrough.
So far it only uses one head Preset 10 as its shape, this means it only registers make up/tattoos, hair slider/colour, eye colours and skin colour. Other sliders seem not to register. I do not know why but if I find a fix I will update this mod.
How to use for Default Ryder?[ If you want to play with Default Scott Twin or Default Sara Twin you do not need to load Part 2 of this mod. Simply load your save or choose default Ryder in the Character Creator
How to use for Custom Ryder? Hair will be above head if you don't use the second part to the mod. But only load that if you intend not to use CC as this will cause a lot of the sliders not to move. New Game/Chaning them in the CC: Load up the character creator either through new game or on the Tempest
So to edit your sibling you have to use your player ryder sliders to work out what hair will load for your sibling For example if you have the Default Scott hair on Scott it will turn into Sara's in game This is because the sliders are read and Scott's hairs are not on the same slider locations as Sara's and vice versa
However so far it only uses one head (Preset 10) as its shape, this means it only registers make up/tattoos, hair slider/colour, eye colours and skin texture/colour. Other sliders seem not to register. I do not know why but if I find a fix I will update this mod.
In order to have their hair load correctly in game load the second part to the mod after creating your sibling in the CC DO NOT load both parts when you intend to use the CC as this will cause a lot of the sliders not to move and choose only the part that corresponds to your sibling. So for example only use Both Twin Ryders are Scott - Hair Fix when you want your twin to be Scott Or Both Twin Ryders are Sara - Hair Fix when you want your twin to be Sara
I'm not sure if this will help anything, but I've discovered a minor workaround with the issue where trying to make CC from scratch will glitch out the colour wheel. If you configure your twin's sliders to what you intend for them to look like as the opposite sex, upload them to the mass effect archives, and then import them in a new game you'll be able to easily adjust the colour wheels again.
Thank you so much for telling me, maybe importing from the archive kicks it back into gear? Its a shame we have to use a workaround as sadly I still haven't found what in the files causes the issue but thank you so much for posting this workaround. Do you mind if I sticky the post so it stays at the top for others to see?
Yeah, that’s totally fine! I’m glad I could help find a small workaround for you in the meantime. Thank you so much for developing this mod, I’ve honestly been dying to have a sister of my own since Andromeda came out so I really appreciate this mod. I wish you further luck with your development!
Hi sorry for the confusion. I may upload them as "needed" together packs instead of all in one even if they get repeated.
You need "Both Twin Ryders are either Sara or Scott" and "Both Twin Ryders are either Sara or Scott - Scott Meridian Armour" but only install that last one when you get to that part of the game otherwise the Andromeda armour will have missing pieces.
played MEA before but your mod made me do a second playthrough after 3 years and im absolutely loving your idea of having ryder twins be the same gender. love your mod and i really hope (look forward to) you find a way to fix the dialogues and voice lines. <3
Came back for a second playthrough and I found another bug! When speaking to SAM to unlock (I think) is the third memory, when the Ryder clan is all together, it seems that my Sara becomes my twin and my main becomes Scott lmfao. Here's a pic that I hope works. Think you can make a fix for it?
Do you think this mod would work with the "Asari Sara" mod to make both Ryder siblings into Asari? I'm really tempted to combine them both if possible, and play the Ryder's as Asari offspring of Alec.
Hello! First of all I wanted to thank you for your great job! the mod is amazing, despite the 'awkward' scott voice for twin sara! But I came here to ask something, cause my twin sara keeps setting always the same skin texture, a texture I don'T want. If I'm not wrong, it's the skin type 00.00 instead of the wanted 10.00. Am I doing something wrong? Or is that common? Thank you and have a nice time ( also maybe already merry christmas )
I'm curious since Scott and Sarah are designed to basically be interchangable
Scott player: I could use some chimichangas Sarah: You always could use some chimichangas
Sarah player: I could use some chimichangas Scott: You always could use some chimichangas
wouldn't it be theoretically be possible to use the scott dialogue for a sarah pathfinder in an identical twins playthrough and get the same general conversations? there shouldn't be too many dialogues for whichever sibling the player isn't playing since the sibling spends almost the entirety of the game in a coma.
Sadly all ebx edits haven't worked, it makes the player mute sadly. So I have to wait for a stable sound editor build, as right now editing sound causes high pitch sound and then crash to desktop.
All this mod does is crash my game, when I load without it, everything goes fine, when I have it, crashes every tram ride on the nexus or I can't even load the game because the game crashes while I'm loading my save.
Thought I'd put this here just in case anyone was curious: I've tried it and this mod does NOT work with the Turian Ryder mod. Kinda figured it wouldn't but thought I'd try it myself, sadly it just shows either a custom Ryder (if your twin was customized) or default Ryder. That said it worked great while I was playtesting and I might use it in a different run, I just wanted to post this here to save others time. Fantastic mod!
Hoping next Frosty Editor has sound edit. As then I can just import the sounds as no other method has worked yet sadly. Edit: and hopefully then edit the lines to remove reference to FemRyder as brother if I get those working and vice versa
I just reached the part on Meridan with the Archon and your twin. Looks like it doesn't work there sadly. I don't know if this is something you can fix?
Also, thanks for replying! Edit: I could post some pics if u'd like to know where exactly!
Damn, that is sadly one location I couldn't test due to not having a save there. I think I may know why it isn't working there though. It is likely using a different file to the other locations.
Np! It's the part on Meridian when the Archon takes your SAM away and you have to play as your twin for a while. I'd be happy to wait for you to update your mod before continuing my playthrough!
Thank you very much again, I was able to fix the issue with Meridian. It was another extra file that needed editing. Also requires loading Meridian Armour Fix once you play as your Twin, unless you don't mind the Andromeda light armour parts being hidden.
Once again, no problem! I just love this mod! I'll be sure to load the armor fix to continue my playthrough! Thank you again and I'll update you if I find anything else!
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Need to know
Twin Sara will use Scott's voice and appear as Scott in CC
Twin Scott will use Sara's Voice and appear as Sara in CC
Can I use this on a current save? Or do I need to start a new game?
You can use this both on a current playthrough and a new playthrough.
So far it only uses one head Preset 10 as its shape, this means it only registers make up/tattoos, hair slider/colour, eye colours and skin colour. Other sliders seem not to register. I do not know why but if I find a fix I will update this mod.
How to use for Default Ryder?[
If you want to play with Default Scott Twin or Default Sara Twin you do not need to load Part 2 of this mod.
Simply load your save or choose default Ryder in the Character Creator
How to use for Custom Ryder?
Hair will be above head if you don't use the second part to the mod. But only load that if you intend not to use CC
as this will cause a lot of the sliders not to move.
New Game/Chaning them in the CC:
Load up the character creator either through new game or on the Tempest
So to edit your sibling you have to use your player ryder sliders to work out what hair will load for your sibling
For example if you have the Default Scott hair on Scott it will turn into Sara's in game
This is because the sliders are read and Scott's hairs are not on the same slider locations as Sara's and vice versa
However so far it only uses one head (Preset 10) as its shape, this means it only registers make up/tattoos, hair slider/colour, eye colours and skin texture/colour. Other sliders seem not to register. I do not know why but if I find a fix I will update this mod.
In order to have their hair load correctly in game load the second part to the mod after creating your sibling in the CC
DO NOT load both parts when you intend to use the CC as this will cause a lot of the sliders not to move
and choose only the part that corresponds to your sibling.
So for example only use Both Twin Ryders are Scott - Hair Fix when you want your twin to be Scott
Or Both Twin Ryders are Sara - Hair Fix when you want your twin to be Sara
this is a great mod, thanks for that.
I'm playing a male Ryder, so my twin is also male.
The NPCs still talk about Sara though. Did I forget something or is that correct?
Greetings
I am using default Scott, so I don't need the part 2 hair fix right?
Which of these then do I need to apply to my mod list?
"Both Twin Ryders are either Sara or Scott - Sara Meridian Armour"
"Both Twin Ryders are either Sara or Scott - Scott Meridian Armour"
"Both Twin Ryders are either Sara or Scott"
or do I need to add all 3?
You need "Both Twin Ryders are either Sara or Scott" and "Both Twin Ryders are either Sara or Scott - Scott Meridian Armour" but only install that last one when you get to that part of the game otherwise the Andromeda armour will have missing pieces.
Do you think this mod would work with the "Asari Sara" mod to make both Ryder siblings into Asari? I'm really tempted to combine them both if possible, and play the Ryder's as Asari offspring of Alec.
First of all I wanted to thank you for your great job! the mod is amazing, despite the 'awkward' scott voice for twin sara!
But I came here to ask something, cause my twin sara keeps setting always the same skin texture, a texture I don'T want. If I'm not wrong, it's the skin type 00.00 instead of the wanted 10.00. Am I doing something wrong? Or is that common?
Thank you and have a nice time ( also maybe already merry christmas )
ps: you are doing a great job <3
Scott player: I could use some chimichangas
Sarah: You always could use some chimichangas
Sarah player: I could use some chimichangas
Scott: You always could use some chimichangas
wouldn't it be theoretically be possible to use the scott dialogue for a sarah pathfinder in an identical twins playthrough and get the same general conversations? there shouldn't be too many dialogues for whichever sibling the player isn't playing since the sibling spends almost the entirety of the game in a coma.
Hoping next Frosty Editor has sound edit. As then I can just import the sounds as no other method has worked yet sadly. Edit: and hopefully then edit the lines to remove reference to FemRyder as brother if I get those working and vice versa
Also, thanks for replying!
Edit: I could post some pics if u'd like to know where exactly!
Thank you so much for telling me