hey just poking around looking at the base game xml food files and the modes. i believe this mod isn't working with 1.9.2 because they added another category with foods and the rows are being read incorrectly.
i just started to poke around with modding but think if the dried and smoked item id is added in it can be compatible with the current build. i think with a little reformatting it could work again. so im just going to give it a shot and see what happens
I don't believe this is the problem, I managed to add the missing attributes to the XML file and changed the architecture to DATA/Tables.pak I tried to take the vanilla food.xml file and change some stats that this mod alters then save it to the mod and still nothing I even added a manifest if that helps, still the mod cannot load, for some reason, the game can't read the food XML file (I tried setting it in the game files directly and now it won't launch)
if someone can update this mod please help us out, the mod author seems to have abandoned it.
Do you have any idea what the others parameters are meant to indicate, like max_status or short_term_nutrition? I'm pulling together a new overhaul mod since we have that extra free time, and I'm using your mod as reference but trying to balance things out, hope you don't mind.
"...and above all correcting alcohol's proper place in the world as a tool used to achieve drunkenness rather than get fed."
Point of fact, back in the day, alcohol was actually a healthy alternative to most water sources as the cleanliness of said water was very questionable. Also, beer/mead/etc. was as much a food as a drink due to the very heavy, almost soup like, consistency. Not like today's watered down, filtered products. Sure it got you drunk if you drank too much, but hops and barley were like oatmeal... fermented oatmeal.
I wanted to ask what are the values for the food? As in...how do I know the mod is working, I extracted the file into the Data folder, so it ends up being S:\Sentinel Victor\gamezz\Kingdom Come Deliverance\Data\zzz_food_and_booze_more_groceries_in_your_yap_v1.0.pak
But I don't see anything changing in my food. Spirits still give 20 nourishment
Create a folder called Mods inside you KingdomeComeDeliverance folder if you don't already have one. Inside that folder create another folder called Food&Booze or whatever you want to call it. It makes no difference. In that folder create one called Data. Extract the file zzz_food_and_booze_more_groceries_in_your_yap_v1.0.pak into that. You hopefully should now see a difference. I don't recall other food values but i now know that eating from a cooking pot only gives me 4 or 5 points instead of the default 25 (I think). Hope that works for you.
Not 100% sure what you mean by this? Like, was this the most recently updated vanilla file (at time of posting, anyway)? The thought is appreciated if it was meant to allow me to update the mod, though sorry I didn't notice the post. ':D
Thanks though, regardless. Hope you're having a nice day, whenever you possibly end up reading this. lol
I really appreciate that, and I'm glad you liked it! Sorry I can't update it for the time being, but it's nice to hear that people enjoy(ed) this. (: I'm assuming it's no longer compatible, but I'll try to get it up and running again whenever I can afford to purchase the game. Thanks again~!
Sorry, I don't own the game myself (was playing on a friend's one while they were in town) so I can't really update it. I don't have access to the current version's files, unfortunately. :/
Also I apologize for more or less abandoning the mod without a word- I literally just forgot it existed after a while of not playing the game at all. Which I guess is a good thing so far as me forgetting the game exists for now, until I can reasonably afford it. :P If I get it one day I'll work on revamping this mod though, because I'm the same way in terms of enjoying how it effected travel and, I'm not sure what exactly to call it- your sense of time in the game? The scale of time? Something like that. :P Anywho, thanks also for letting me know you liked my work, even if I can't continue it atm. Cheers. (:
however can I get a version without the extended food spoilage? wait no, make that like x2.5? cause bread spoils after 2 days, with this mod that would make it 10 days which isn't realistic in my opinion. 5 days is much better :D
I also kinda like the human dustbin perk and the feeling of not having the worry about spoilage anymore... :P
That's a big maybe, I'd have to say.. It's a pain in the butt to go down the list of them and make changes, much less make multiple versions for different spoilage rates. I don't necessarily mean just initially (though that is a part of it), but it would mean any time I want to tweak or update the mod I'd have to do it for each individual version rather than just the once. Then there's the final frustration that, if the game updates, I'd yet again not be having to make the one version compatible, but each one individually... That's the one that would really cause the problems. :/
That all said, I probably could go through and fiddle with it as a one-off when I'm done trying to balance it a bit more, if you're still interested down the line. (:
I just wish you could actually edit these files in something like excel :P Just multiply all numbers in the column by 0.5 and bam, we'd have your version ready to go. lol
I can't describe how much easier it would make this stuff. I actually edited the initial values of items in excel when I first went through, before manually copying them over to the actual .xml. It was a bit of a mess since excel couldn't read the game's file format very well, but it worked. lol
Noted, thanks! I'll take a look at their energy. I wanted to make some of the foods useful less as things to fill nutrition and more as other uses- pears and apples were intended to be small energy & health boosters; both are decent at giving energy if eaten fresh, and both are decent at healing when cooked (the apple being the better option in the former situation, and pear in the latter).
There is the problem though that spamming them can be a little *too* useful..
Any thoughts on what might be done about it? Should I reduce the energy benefits? If I did that for lepiota I'd probably go ahead and go through any other items with positive energy benefits, maybe reduce them all a bit to even more modest levels. If I do that though I feel like it may seem a bit pointless to have the energy benefit there at all. Could always rely on roleplay, sure, but still.
As a passing thought, for what it's worth, I remembered near the bottom of the .xml that lepiota was a mushroom (I only commented as I went on, I rarely went back to correct myself since the comments didn't really matter) and decided that, realism be damned, I'd make lepiota a bit of a special niche in being good for energy. I'd only seen it very occasionally in shops so I figured it was fairly rare, though I didn't know it was common in forests. :/ I rarely go hunting..
Anywho, let me know what you think. Either way, I'll keep it in mind for my upcoming re-rebalance sweep through the file. Thanks for the help!
I wonder if we could solve for that problem with scripting. Right now scripting seems like mostly an unknown for KCD - the easier lockpicking mod is one great exception - but the language (LUA) is very well documented, so it's really just a matter of finding the right scripts, having more examples out there to work from, maybe some tips from the devs.
It'd be pretty neat if you could get a bellyache from gorging on apples, for example.
From my point of view, any food should not give plus energy. Perhaps some potions or narcotic mushrooms, but necessarily with some consequences, like a hangover. Heavy food should reduce energy, light food should be neutral to energy.
It will be awesome if anyone can make complex cooking, for example drop meat with mushrooms and cabbage in pot and have proper meal.
@unuroboros- I can't say I'd really know how to approach it. I'm not good with LUA, or even coding in general. I can read it well enough, once I figure out what things mean and/or recognize a pattern, but I can't *write* it, if that makes sense. I've thrown myself at the wall that is learning to code a hundred times, but it seems I've just no aptitude for it. I do like the bellyache idea though; prevent the whole 'eat 17 cheesewheels to recover full health' thing that happens in many games.
@ovchin- In theory I'd agree with you that food shouldn't usually provide energy (except in rare cases), but I decided against that route so that I could have more variation in the foods.
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i believe this mod isn't working with 1.9.2 because they added another category with foods and the rows are being read incorrectly.
current build-
<row alcohol_content="0" cooked_item_id="" decay_time_hours="0" dried_item_id="" food_subtype_id="" food_type_id="3" health_benefit="0" item_id="006ec8d6-1ce1-4e90-8267-7c349812ddcd" max_status="50" nutrition_benefit="1" refresh_benefit="0" short_term_nutrition_benefit_ratio="0.5" smoked_item_id="" />
mod-
<row alcohol_content="0" cooked_item_id="" decay_time_hours="0" food_subtype_id="" food_type_id="3" health_benefit="0" item_id="006ec8d6-1ce1-4e90-8267-7c349812ddcd" max_status="50" nutrition_benefit="1" refresh_benefit="0" short_term_nutrition_benefit_ratio="0.5" />
i just started to poke around with modding but think if the dried and smoked item id is added in it can be compatible with the current build.
i think with a little reformatting it could work again. so im just going to give it a shot and see what happens
I tried to take the vanilla food.xml file and change some stats that this mod alters then save it to the mod and still nothing
I even added a manifest if that helps, still the mod cannot load,
for some reason, the game can't read the food XML file (I tried setting it in the game files directly and now it won't launch)
if someone can update this mod please help us out, the mod author seems to have abandoned it.
I'm pulling together a new overhaul mod since we have that extra free time, and I'm using your mod as reference but trying to balance things out, hope you don't mind.
Point of fact, back in the day, alcohol was actually a healthy alternative to most water sources as the cleanliness of said water was very questionable. Also, beer/mead/etc. was as much a food as a drink due to the very heavy, almost soup like, consistency. Not like today's watered down, filtered products. Sure it got you drunk if you drank too much, but hops and barley were like oatmeal... fermented oatmeal.
I wanted to ask what are the values for the food? As in...how do I know the mod is working, I extracted the file into the Data folder, so it ends up being S:\Sentinel Victor\gamezz\Kingdom Come Deliverance\Data\zzz_food_and_booze_more_groceries_in_your_yap_v1.0.pak
But I don't see anything changing in my food. Spirits still give 20 nourishment
Thanks though, regardless. Hope you're having a nice day, whenever you possibly end up reading this. lol
The tweaks with fruit and vegetables is great?
Also I apologize for more or less abandoning the mod without a word- I literally just forgot it existed after a while of not playing the game at all. Which I guess is a good thing so far as me forgetting the game exists for now, until I can reasonably afford it. :P If I get it one day I'll work on revamping this mod though, because I'm the same way in terms of enjoying how it effected travel and, I'm not sure what exactly to call it- your sense of time in the game? The scale of time? Something like that. :P Anywho, thanks also for letting me know you liked my work, even if I can't continue it atm. Cheers. (:
however can I get a version without the extended food spoilage? wait no, make that like x2.5? cause bread spoils after 2 days, with this mod that would make it 10 days which isn't realistic in my opinion. 5 days is much better :D
I also kinda like the human dustbin perk and the feeling of not having the worry about spoilage anymore... :P
That all said, I probably could go through and fiddle with it as a one-off when I'm done trying to balance it a bit more, if you're still interested down the line. (:
I just wish you could actually edit these files in something like excel :P Just multiply all numbers in the column by 0.5 and bam, we'd have your version ready to go. lol
I did whip up a quick and dirty Powershell script to tone down the values for myself. Source below in case it's useful to anyone!
$filename = 'food.xml'
[xml]$xml = Get-Content $filename
$coeff = 0.5
$rows = $xml.SelectNodes("//row")
foreach ($row in $rows) {
$dth = [int]$row.Attributes["decay_time_hours"].Value
$row.Attributes["decay_time_hours"].Value = $dth * $coeff
}
$xml.Save("food_halfdecay.xml")
<row alcohol_content="0" cooked_item_id="" decay_time_hours="240" food_subtype_id="" food_type_id="7" health_benefit="0" item_id="239ea469-3237-48d8-af90-da7cdf4140dc" max_status="10" nutrition_benefit="1" refresh_benefit="1.5" short_term_nutrition_benefit_ratio="" />
This is a mushroom that is common in the forest.
It is easy to collect a few dozen and you can go awake for several days, eating only them.
Also, apples and pears allow you to delay need for sleep for a long time.
There is the problem though that spamming them can be a little *too* useful..
Any thoughts on what might be done about it? Should I reduce the energy benefits? If I did that for lepiota I'd probably go ahead and go through any other items with positive energy benefits, maybe reduce them all a bit to even more modest levels. If I do that though I feel like it may seem a bit pointless to have the energy benefit there at all. Could always rely on roleplay, sure, but still.
As a passing thought, for what it's worth, I remembered near the bottom of the .xml that lepiota was a mushroom (I only commented as I went on, I rarely went back to correct myself since the comments didn't really matter) and decided that, realism be damned, I'd make lepiota a bit of a special niche in being good for energy. I'd only seen it very occasionally in shops so I figured it was fairly rare, though I didn't know it was common in forests. :/ I rarely go hunting..
Anywho, let me know what you think. Either way, I'll keep it in mind for my upcoming re-rebalance sweep through the file. Thanks for the help!
It'd be pretty neat if you could get a bellyache from gorging on apples, for example.
Perhaps some potions or narcotic mushrooms, but necessarily with some consequences, like a hangover.
Heavy food should reduce energy, light food should be neutral to energy.
It will be awesome if anyone can make complex cooking, for example drop meat with mushrooms and cabbage in pot and have proper meal.
@ovchin- In theory I'd agree with you that food shouldn't usually provide energy (except in rare cases), but I decided against that route so that I could have more variation in the foods.