Ok, sorry for my english. You need to have tan gem and blush gem on your inventory (remember you found a note telling you about you need to carry this gems and not leave behind). If you have, a teleport activates on this dead end and you can go to upper levels of this tower. If you don't have, a message appears to tell you about what gem or crystal you leave behind (to advice you about what you need to advance). You need to carry this gems until the end of the game, because you need later on next towers. Same for different crystals you collect on towers because you need this crystals to reach the end. Anyway if you don't have last version i recommend you to download because on first versions there are 2 bugs on last towers and you can't continue. Actual version works perfectly (tested by me and other players until the end). I'm working on a little easy manual for this mod, soon i upload. Tell me if you need some information.
Hi, thank you for your answer, i searched a few hours. As you can see in this cap, i have the two gems (and no teleport and no message) I'm on version 1.4
Really really strange. Are you using linux version? i know someone who had a similar problem but was on dragon tower and plays with linux version but later works perfectly without doing nothing. You are the first player with problem on serpent tower. Please drop one gem on the ground and try to go to this dead end. You have to see a message about you need this gem. You are just on teleport but activates one or two steps before your position: _______________ |______ T _____| T ---> Teleporter (initially deactivated) .........| P|....... P----> Position of hidden plate with script to activate teleporter and message if not.
Seems you are just on T position, try to go out, left behind a gem and go to P point to see that message. I need to know if scripts works. Are you using a new party or you load a previous party to play this mod? It's really strange but try to put gems on another player. We need to do some tests. Dont' worry, at last you can send me your save and i can teleport you to next floor but i need to know what happens. Thx in advance and sorry for my english. If anyone have this problem tell me please.
Hi, i'm on W7.64b, LOG 1.3.7 Steam. New Party normal difficulty : 2 Minotaurs fighters + 2 Insect mages (fire / air), level 6 at this point.
1st test : dropping gems in the corridor before the 2 emerald locks then enter : "We dont have a tan gem" 2nd test : droppring only blush gem : "we dont have a blush gem" 3rd test : droppring only tan gem : "We dont have a tan gem" 4th test : get the two gems 1st character : no message + no teleport 5th test : get the two gems 2nd character : no message + no teleport 6th test : get the two gems 3rd character : no message + no teleport 7th test : get the two gems 4th character : no message + no teleport 8th+ : get the two gems but one par character : no message + no teleport
Hi, I restarted an entirely new game from the beginning and this time it works (created same characters, doing same things during game i guess), teleporter appears straight. Only difference, a mage has the gems. I keep old bugged savegame if you want it to check.
This is a big LOL!! absolutely strange. If you do the same and this time works... i can see you have mages on your first party and don't work. For example on my current save i have all the gems and crystals on one of my fighters on first line but i put one gem and crystal on different characters and works perfectly. Some different people play with this mod and works. Ok, you can found 8 or 9 teleports like that until the end of the game. I hope you can play without problems this time!! if not tell me. Script works if you don't have any gem because you see a message and the other option is activate the teleport, no more secrets about that. I'm doing a lot of tests with different partys with different configuration but it's hard because always works XDD If you like send me your save. I'm really sorry for all this problems. Please if someone more are playing now with this mod tell me if you are having same problems.
Hi, stucked again at Tower of the Moon first floor, got Gear key but no Gear Key door. I suppose i have to going out with the blush gem alcove ? Putting the blush gem inside seems to do nothing. Or i missed something but i dont see what.
I have a couple of times had the same problem with tan/blush gems, but in a different place The first time works fine, but when I tried again nothing happened ?
Zorglub, you can found this door on second floor. At the end of first room of moon tower you can found tan gem and blush gem alcove behind secret walls. With one of them you can go. Arskaxx you can complete the game last week and you never have this problem with tan-gem alcove, why now? i don't know, scripts are always the same. I don't understand why works sometimes. Anyway if i see more people have this problem i think about delete the mod because it's a headache. I'm tired of doing test and always works fine for me. I have no explanation.
Sorry, I forgot to mention in the past of that problem, because it did not matter gaming
I do not remember when it was not even a problem, but this is the resumption of the game is working well, except I can not find all the secret places
I just try the zorglub1422 savegame, it does not work blush/tan gem, no teleports activated when use gems, maybe the problem is in that, in some way and sometimes to block all other teleports ?
Even though it is in some little problems, do not give up ... This is still the best dungeon
Now i remember (bad memory) one problem more... Moon tower.. There is a place what says something like "Give me your wand and i give you my tears", i try Moonwand and Whitewood wand but the door will not open
Try to find tan gem secret alcove just at side of blush gem (hope it works). If you go just before downstairs of the upper right you can open secret walls to tan gem with a hidden pressure plate. Be careful because there are some hidden plates on the way back and close this secret walls. It's the same thing like blush gem. If you go to left downstairs (in front of crystal on map) you open blush gem walls, if you go right upper downstairs (on map) you open tan gem. And on all this area there are more plates we close this walls. Remember the note "watch your steps". If tan gem don't work you can't do anything because is a bug like you can see earlier on serpent tower. Try to load another old save and hope this time this alcoves work. Post your save and i test myself but no solutions for that. I don't know why happens. Arksaxx, yes is moonwand. You only need to put this wand on alcove and the door open, removes the scroll from alcove too.
Ok thank you very much, i found the tan gem secret. I heard the closing but not the opening, that was my mistake. However, i'm afraid the tan gem alcove is useless. Here is this save : http://zorglub1422.free.fr/softs/MISC/savegame12.sav
Ps : Yesterday, i resinstalled LOG fully, just in case, but it's the same.
I'm thinking about the possibility to make a modify version of this mod. Basically the same but simple version. That means i delete all this scripts and do things more easy because seems all the aleatory problems are only when a teleport are involved inside a script. You can play this mod without problems 1, 2, 5, 20 times or you can play and the first time you found some problems. If you have another previous save try to use it and see if this time tan-blush alcoves works.
I'm going to upload a new version. After a very lot of testing and searching really hard on code and special alcoves i do a little modifications. I do too a simple version but i need to know if with this 1.5 version that stranges problems are vanished. If now works good i delete 1.4 and not upload simple version. On an hour aprox you can found 1.5 version.
Hi, gonna test v1.5 with new party as soon as i can, i'll tell you.
Edit : like the first time, teleport does not appear at serpent 3rd floor with 2 gems in inventory save here : http://zorglub1422.free.fr/softs/MISC/savegame13.sav
Thank you for your time zorglub this afternoon upload simple version. I delete 1.4 but not 1.5 and upload too a simple version (for people with script problems). On this simple version all tower teleports are always active and it's impossible to be deactivated. I put a scroll or note on the ground just before to advice player about what gems are needed to advance but nothing more, no more scripts. About tan gem and blush gem this time teleports are always active too but behind a secret wall. When you put gem on alcove the door opens and never close and teleports can't be deactivated too. I suppose with that you can finish the game without problems but if you found any problem please tell me. Why happens that? really i don't know XDD but i'm going to check another time your saves for making more experiments with "normal" version.
Probably you are bored from serpent and main tower XD
Hi, dont find combination (of plates i suppose, reading note) for going out of teleport room at Tower Chaos 2nd Floor (I got the ornate key with buttons)
I put a little manual on files of this mod. You have necessary combinations to go out on "tips and clues" paragraph Seems you can play without problems on this simple version right? There are more secrets on this area, using another combinations (one with plates).
Send me your save and i put you at the other side. It's a bug, when i do simple version i delete this script like previous towers and forgot to put a conector on side button for open the door. I'm uploading a new simple version with this bug fixed. I'm not sure about when can i send your save back. I hope 1 or 2 days. You can do a fast test, if you have normal version try to load your save on this version and perhaps you can cross this door using crystals script. After that "no turn back" you go to last floor of the game, you are really close to the end!!!
Ok, i supposed i was not wrong after i read your manual so i used console to pass that door and fought till the end... That was a great end ! I shall replay last simple version soon, and i'll tell you what.
Here are a few things i noticed, but not stucking. - In Main tower, in the central longest corridor to the north there is a button on right wall at about 8 squares. In V1.4 i i was able to press it , in V1.5 and simple, i was teleported to the beginning of the corridor on that case and could not press that button (to open north if i remember well, long time ago). - Simple VS : In Moon Tower 1st Floor, if you teleport from North Tan Gem to South Tan Gem without activated the Tan Gem in main room before, you are prisoner and have to reload an old save (tel from North to South then activate South but need a wall to open to access to south tel, maybe you want it like that). I didnt try North Blue Gem to South Blue Gem without activated South Blue Gem before. - If you jump in the 'Try another...' pit from Moon 2nd to Moon 1st it seems that you fall in an "empty" case http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/145682emptycase.png
--------------- My stats and feeling : Time to finish : about 18h (35 levels), that is a BIG dungeon. Fighting difficulty : hard Food management : limit sleep or be hungry Puzzle difficulty : no stucking puzzle (some people like insane puzzles but not me, so it's good -) ) Overall fun : 10/10. --------------- I loved your dungeon, best i played by far.
Thank you for your endorsement zorglub and for your comments!!!. You and arskaxx help me a lot with this problems on game. I'm going to check this little problems and one with "x marks the spot..." because arskaxx tells me seems not work good. I'm going to upload a new 1.5 version and simple version soon becuase i'm trying to solve this little bugs but i'm not sure about can i upload. Problem on main tower is strange because is the same on 1.1, 1.2,1.3,1.4,1.5 and simple XDDD i never need to do changes on this tower. I remember you have 2 buttons on walls, one to prevent teleport to other room and second to prevent you go back on corridor. I do this mod long time ago, last year i thing and upload on grimrock forums but seems people don't like or don't play because no one tells me about bugs or problems. Past month arskaxx and another player discover bugs on dragon and chaos tower and complete the game later. And last month i upload this mod here. And you found more bugs zorglub XDDD this is the story.... Seems there are few people interested on this mod but for me reading your comments It's very rewarding because i waste a lot of hours making this mod. On next version i'm going to put you, arskaxx and other player on credits because you help a lot ^_^ Arskaxx i'm really impressed about 37/40!!!! absolutely incredible, i say that becuase i know there are some secrets really hard to find!!!
I do not understand how I have not tried this dungeon .. I usually tried all the new dungeons to nexus but not LOG forums
This is the best so far what I've played (i hate timing puzzles), although there was a little problem
Actually I've found only 36/40 secrets, but i know where is number 37 (x-spot) Hmmm.. I also know where is number 38, but I can not try the numbers 1,2,1,2 etc. But the remaining two, I have no clue... One is serpent tower and another dragon tower ???
Can you make Eye of beholder dungeons too or Black crypt ?
"I remember you have 2 buttons on walls, one to prevent teleport to other room and second to prevent you go back on corridor". I was ok on my first game, so probably missed something on the next ones, i will check that. Edit : it's ok, i missed south button.
..."because i waste a lot of hours making this mod"..
"x marks the spot" is the treasure of Dragon tower not a secret. Probably you can't found last secret on chaos tower on "3 ways, one key, few secrets" but this area is really crazy and it's normal. Near this last secret you can find treasure of Chaos tower too. To discover this last secret you need to do a combination with pressure plates and another fake wall with a teleport opens far away alcove with key and the other secrets. Both objects are on secret area on last floor of this tower (yes last level are not only a short passage with 2 stairs and one skull on alcove XDDD). I need to see combinations because i don't remember XDD On serpent tower all secrets are on lower levels except secret on iron door on upper levels. About dragon tower i need more information about what secrets you find on this tower. About EOB and black crypt i know both games and i have all cluebooks of EOB trilogy with maps, secrets, etc but i thing there are mods with this games. I see on steam workshop but i'm not sure about quality because i don't play. If you like Remember of Treihadwyl try my other mod "The Voice" is really short compared with that but i hope you like it anyway. On steam a lot of people play (without bugs XDDDD) and give me a good notes. I have another project in mind and i'm doing first levels but i'm not sure about if finally complete or not.
Edit: I solved all the problems you found on simple version and 2 little problems on normal version and simple: the pit on moon tower and "marks x the spot".
SPOILER Saved my friend, found "listen to the demon", listened the demons, the venom serpent... then put serpent bracer in alcove but nothing. tryed also with poignant and antidote potion and serpent crystal Am i wrong ?
Yes, it's poignant potion. Script for open this door is the same on grimrock modding posted by AH Team. If you like post your save and i do tests but i'm sure scripts works. If not AH team do an error XDDD About x spot inside pillars there are a teleport but seems not activate for you. Send me your save and i see but it's always the same. Seems you have problems sometimes with scripts for activate teleports like teleports between towers, tan-blush gem, moon alcove with moonwand etc... Probably simple version needs to do more simple? XDD I can tell you about what position needs to jump but before i need to see mod because i don't remember.
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I'm working on a little easy manual for this mod, soon i upload. Tell me if you need some information.
I'm on version 1.4
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/559610Photo00481.jpg
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|______ T _____| T ---> Teleporter (initially deactivated)
.........| P|....... P----> Position of hidden plate with script to activate teleporter and message if not.
Seems you are just on T position, try to go out, left behind a gem and go to P point to see that message. I need to know if scripts works.
Are you using a new party or you load a previous party to play this mod? It's really strange but try to put gems on another player. We need to do some tests. Dont' worry, at last you can send me your save and i can teleport you to next floor but i need to know what happens.
Thx in advance and sorry for my english. If anyone have this problem tell me please.
New Party normal difficulty : 2 Minotaurs fighters + 2 Insect mages (fire / air), level 6 at this point.
1st test : dropping gems in the corridor before the 2 emerald locks then enter : "We dont have a tan gem"
2nd test : droppring only blush gem : "we dont have a blush gem"
3rd test : droppring only tan gem : "We dont have a tan gem"
4th test : get the two gems 1st character : no message + no teleport
5th test : get the two gems 2nd character : no message + no teleport
6th test : get the two gems 3rd character : no message + no teleport
7th test : get the two gems 4th character : no message + no teleport
8th+ : get the two gems but one par character : no message + no teleport
I restarted an entirely new game from the beginning and this time it works (created same characters, doing same things during game i guess), teleporter appears straight.
Only difference, a mage has the gems.
I keep old bugged savegame if you want it to check.
Script works if you don't have any gem because you see a message and the other option is activate the teleport, no more secrets about that. I'm doing a lot of tests with different partys with different configuration but it's hard because always works XDD
If you like send me your save. I'm really sorry for all this problems. Please if someone more are playing now with this mod tell me if you are having same problems.
http://zorglub1422.free.fr/softs/MISC/savegame08.sav
I keep moving on your mod, great mod i can say.
I suppose i have to going out with the blush gem alcove ? Putting the blush gem inside seems to do nothing.
Or i missed something but i dont see what.
The first time works fine, but when I tried again nothing happened ?
I do not remember when it was not even a problem, but this is the resumption of the game is working well, except I can not find all the secret places
I just try the zorglub1422 savegame, it does not work blush/tan gem, no teleports activated when use gems, maybe the problem is in that, in some way and sometimes to block all other teleports ?
Even though it is in some little problems, do not give up ... This is still the best dungeon
Now i remember (bad memory) one problem more... Moon tower.. There is a place what says something like "Give me your wand and i give you my tears", i try Moonwand and Whitewood wand but the door will not open
warning SPOILER, secret Blush Gem alcove :
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/178765moon1st.png
Must i find another secret ?
Arksaxx, yes is moonwand. You only need to put this wand on alcove and the door open, removes the scroll from alcove too.
However, i'm afraid the tan gem alcove is useless.
Here is this save :
http://zorglub1422.free.fr/softs/MISC/savegame12.sav
Ps : Yesterday, i resinstalled LOG fully, just in case, but it's the same.
Edit : like the first time, teleport does not appear at serpent 3rd floor with 2 gems in inventory
save here :
http://zorglub1422.free.fr/softs/MISC/savegame13.sav
I suppose with that you can finish the game without problems but if you found any problem please tell me.
Why happens that? really i don't know XDD but i'm going to check another time your saves for making more experiments with "normal" version.
Probably you are bored from serpent and main tower XD
Seems you can play without problems on this simple version right?
There are more secrets on this area, using another combinations (one with plates).
Thanks again for this great work and i will read (moderately) the tips.
You can do a fast test, if you have normal version try to load your save on this version and perhaps you can cross this door using crystals script.
After that "no turn back" you go to last floor of the game, you are really close to the end!!!
I shall replay last simple version soon, and i'll tell you what.
Here are a few things i noticed, but not stucking.
- In Main tower, in the central longest corridor to the north there is a button on right wall at about 8 squares. In V1.4 i i was able to press it , in V1.5 and simple, i was teleported to the beginning of the corridor on that case and could not press that button (to open north if i remember well, long time ago).
- Simple VS : In Moon Tower 1st Floor, if you teleport from North Tan Gem to South Tan Gem without activated the Tan Gem in main room before, you are prisoner and have to reload an old save (tel from North to South then activate South but need a wall to open to access to south tel, maybe you want it like that). I didnt try North Blue Gem to South Blue Gem without activated South Blue Gem before.
- If you jump in the 'Try another...' pit from Moon 2nd to Moon 1st it seems that you fall in an "empty" case http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/145682emptycase.png
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My stats and feeling :
Time to finish : about 18h (35 levels), that is a BIG dungeon.
Fighting difficulty : hard
Food management : limit sleep or be hungry
Puzzle difficulty : no stucking puzzle (some people like insane puzzles but not me, so it's good -) )
Overall fun : 10/10.
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I loved your dungeon, best i played by far.
Can you put your console command here, i also want pass that door but i dont know right command ?
Have you found all the secrets ?
I have found only 37/40
=> party:setPosition(24,8,0,35)(with shift P in Position)
I'm going to upload a new 1.5 version and simple version soon becuase i'm trying to solve this little bugs but i'm not sure about can i upload.
Problem on main tower is strange because is the same on 1.1, 1.2,1.3,1.4,1.5 and simple XDDD i never need to do changes on this tower.
I remember you have 2 buttons on walls, one to prevent teleport to other room and second to prevent you go back on corridor.
I do this mod long time ago, last year i thing and upload on grimrock forums but seems people don't like or don't play because no one tells me about bugs or problems. Past month arskaxx and another player discover bugs on dragon and chaos tower and complete the game later. And last month i upload this mod here. And you found more bugs zorglub XDDD this is the story....
Seems there are few people interested on this mod but for me reading your comments It's very rewarding because i waste a lot of hours making this mod. On next version i'm going to put you, arskaxx and other player on credits because you help a lot ^_^
Arskaxx i'm really impressed about 37/40!!!! absolutely incredible, i say that becuase i know there are some secrets really hard to find!!!
This is the best so far what I've played (i hate timing puzzles), although there was a little problem
Actually I've found only 36/40 secrets, but i know where is number 37 (x-spot)
Hmmm.. I also know where is number 38, but I can not try the numbers 1,2,1,2 etc.
But the remaining two, I have no clue... One is serpent tower and another dragon tower ???
Can you make Eye of beholder dungeons too or Black crypt ?
I was ok on my first game, so probably missed something on the next ones, i will check that.
Edit : it's ok, i missed south button.
..."because i waste a lot of hours making this mod"..
Yes, i can imagine that ! It's a huge work.
On serpent tower all secrets are on lower levels except secret on iron door on upper levels. About dragon tower i need more information about what secrets you find on this tower.
About EOB and black crypt i know both games and i have all cluebooks of EOB trilogy with maps, secrets, etc but i thing there are mods with this games. I see on steam workshop but i'm not sure about quality because i don't play.
If you like Remember of Treihadwyl try my other mod "The Voice" is really short compared with that but i hope you like it anyway. On steam a lot of people play (without bugs XDDDD) and give me a good notes.
I have another project in mind and i'm doing first levels but i'm not sure about if finally complete or not.
Edit: I solved all the problems you found on simple version and 2 little problems on normal version and simple: the pit on moon tower and "marks x the spot".
About X-spot
Only one side of pillars opened and there is nothing inside ?????
SPOILER
Saved my friend, found "listen to the demon", listened the demons, the venom serpent...
then put serpent bracer in alcove but nothing.
tryed also with poignant and antidote potion and serpent crystal
Am i wrong ?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8yRdN_d5pumNUQ5VkZEQUlOVlE/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8yRdN_d5pumN0VUTUtjQy1QeFE/edit?usp=sharing
Poignant potion works for me....
There is another discussion forum:
http://www.grimrock.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5830&start=50
About x spot inside pillars there are a teleport but seems not activate for you. Send me your save and i see but it's always the same. Seems you have problems sometimes with scripts for activate teleports like teleports between towers, tan-blush gem, moon alcove with moonwand etc...
Probably simple version needs to do more simple? XDD
I can tell you about what position needs to jump but before i need to see mod because i don't remember.
http://zorglub1422.free.fr/softs/MISC/savegame20.sav