Notes: - This is mostly a fun project and just there to gather all the text reference - Time references in text will be replaced by build in Text Replacement <Global=GlobalName> if possible (?) - Feel free to discuss the reason of 200 years aftermath and else
I think this would work super well as a small immersion booster in a nuclear winter LO, though nuclear winters only last 5 to 15 years the nukes in Fallout are definitely much more different than the modern day nukes we have today.
looking all the debris made more sense if 60 years have passed. also the direction of wasteland in Fallout 4 is make everything sh*tty landfill while at least the previous games (even the noncanon "Fallout Brotherhood of Steel" for PS2), Fallout 3, New Vegas (still doesn't explain why people didn't stripmine the pileup on the way to the shaking hands statue - it might make for a good garrison), and even the Amazon Miniseries (actually there is shown that Shady Sands have returning to the old world glory before it was destroyed) have some tidyness in it.
"recent years after Apocalypse" is a theme near and dear to Beth developers.
I guess you can see F4 as another attempt of theirs to build a world in that time range. After the failed efforts in F3.
I am not surprised, really. F3 devs has one (cant be 2) that was really obsessed with certain theme, that can lead efforts toward it, but dont have enough influence to make it main theme.
I will be looking toward to more efforts, further efforts in this direction. No, really. The phenomena is certainly interesting to me.
If true, wait for my NukaWorld overhaul. The link will lead to a hidden mod page though, its not done yet. But almost ... no more than a week hopefully.
Of course, there's problem of certain characters from Fallout 3. None touch them yet. But I would think a rename should be enough. After all, Little Lamplight was said to be from right after Apocalypse. So is Brotherhood. So their factions' origin is no problem.
Rivet City mentions can be biggest problem: its age should be 50 years at oldest, possibly younger, from F3 time, so its age should be 2237 maybe. So 140 years earlier should be no Rivet City yet, more like a den of raiders and or lurks. (20 years ago Dr Li lead the teams to join Rivet City and displaced ol Pinkerton from the Chief seat. Before that was sometime when Pinkerton lead the Naval Institute members to clear the ship off the hostiles, which I guess 20-30 years just to be on safe side, what with several characters being 2nd generation leaders)
I would suggest changing it to River City. Solved~ Any similar to Rivet City is just coincidence. Like how any coincidence between Naval Institute and THE Institute is purely that~
My theory for Fallout 4 is that well, It did happened 210 years after the war, but the states of the building looked quite recently abandoned because it's been occupied and used until the last 40-50 years ago until the fall of CPG (Commonwealth Provisional Government), and further with the fall of the Minutemen. So the state of the world is actually a 'second apocalypse'. Things did get cleaned up and repaired, then fell into disrepair again.
You can find some evidence that people have lived in most of the buildings and apartments until quite recently too.
I think that's what initially was intended, anyway, if you looked at Fallout 4 concept art, most things looked more clean and high-tech. Diamond City was less shacks and more cyberpunk. (but still dystopian) and there used to be high-tech raiders faction. Faction war quests that suggested that the world moved on. but I guess someone at Bethesda decided that 'it wouldn't look like Fallout if things don't look freshly bombed out' and we're back to square one again.
Listen the mod is called "Out of Time" so technically the Quest Out of Time is out of time since the entire world is out of time in regards to the main quest time line. Fallout 4 inturn is out of time without calling or naming any quest before writing Out of Time. Its even worse the game is out of mind.
Some provinces of the Roman Empire took five hundred years to return to a status equivalent to the one it had before the collapse, you can argue some of them never really did until imperialism came around. Progress is not as linear as positivism would have you think. It's perfectly plausible that some places simply can't recover in a timely fashion from an event as large as a nuclear war.
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- This is mostly a fun project and just there to gather all the text reference
- Time references in text will be replaced by build in Text Replacement <Global=GlobalName> if possible (?)
- Feel free to discuss the reason of 200 years aftermath and else
Please report any missing text line.
also the direction of wasteland in Fallout 4 is make everything sh*tty landfill while at least the previous games (even the noncanon "Fallout Brotherhood of Steel" for PS2), Fallout 3, New Vegas (still doesn't explain why people didn't stripmine the pileup on the way to the shaking hands statue - it might make for a good garrison), and even the Amazon Miniseries (actually there is shown that Shady Sands have returning to the old world glory before it was destroyed) have some tidyness in it.
I guess you can see F4 as another attempt of theirs to build a world in that time range. After the failed efforts in F3.
I am not surprised, really. F3 devs has one (cant be 2) that was really obsessed with certain theme, that can lead efforts toward it, but dont have enough influence to make it main theme.
I will be looking toward to more efforts, further efforts in this direction. No, really. The phenomena is certainly interesting to me.
Rivet City mentions can be biggest problem: its age should be 50 years at oldest, possibly younger, from F3 time, so its age should be 2237 maybe. So 140 years earlier should be no Rivet City yet, more like a den of raiders and or lurks.
(20 years ago Dr Li lead the teams to join Rivet City and displaced ol Pinkerton from the Chief seat. Before that was sometime when Pinkerton lead the Naval Institute members to clear the ship off the hostiles, which I guess 20-30 years just to be on safe side, what with several characters being 2nd generation leaders)
I would suggest changing it to River City. Solved~ Any similar to Rivet City is just coincidence. Like how any coincidence between Naval Institute and THE Institute is purely that~
You can find some evidence that people have lived in most of the buildings and apartments until quite recently too.