I added some more things to the list. For anyone looking to reduce more things. Dunno how effective it will be but if I remember correctly, there's tons of loot in the game. Plus, since RO ONE and SMR don't seem to have great Loot control, I figure drastic less world loot is a good compromise; hence the extreme values. Y'all will have to tweak this yourselves.
EDIT: I commented some items out of the lists below. These items were causing CTDs for me. If you're not experience CTDs from this mod, then you can try to add them back in. (by deleting the semi-colon in front of the ID)
EDIT2: I downgraded Fallout and all the CTDs are gone and the game in general is rock solid, and FPS is infinitely better. I'm un-commenting out the "problematic" items from the list.
Additions to Food:
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;Purified Water 000366C0~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95) ;Dirty Water 000366BF~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50) ;Whiskey 000366C1~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Wine 000366C2~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Vodka 000366C3~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Bourbon 000366C4~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Noodle Cup 00017C73~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Gwinnett Stout 00022792~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Gwinnett Pale 000F9329~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Gwinnett Pilsner 000F932A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Gwinnett Lager 000F932B~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Gwinnett Ale 000F932C~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Gwinnett Brew 000F932D~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Rum 00145857~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Beer 0011EA93~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75) ;Preserved Instamash 000E377A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50) ;Potted Meat 0016D8C8~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50) ;Sweet Roll 000366BE~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95) ;Gum Drops 000330FC~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95) ;Bubblegum 000330F6~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
I added a bit more things to the list, the thought is things which you'd keep on your person like cigarettes and a lighter and things which you'd eat right away, these things shouldn't be lying around so much.
Could you explain a bit more about why you changed from LocTypeDungeon to Clearable? What were the issues, I thought I read somewhere, but I can't find it.
I'm actually having trouble with this mod. I reinstalled it with all and only the requisite mods and it CTDs when trying to start a new game/Continue.
After combing through each item, the issue is the Stimpack. Commenting it out, no CTDs.
I also combed through all of the extra Chems/Food/Meds I added to your list, and which I've posted below in another comment. There's a list of other items which cause CTDs as well, all seemingly random. For all the FormIDs check that comment I mentioned. I hope this helps, I'm pretty sure it's not a problem on my end, but seems no one else is experiencing this.
So odd, I can literally toggle CTDs by commenting and uncommenting out Stimpacks from the SWAP.ini
I'm using MO2 and my default mod list contains Damn Apocalypse, which I was suspecting might do something conflicting. But I'm testing your Swapper list on a new profile with just the requisite mods enabled and trying to start a new game.
No one else is having this issue? I was thinking it could have to do with the vault 111 overseer's office; some Objects in this room are scripted, like the 10mm pistol. Thought that might be an issue...
Do you know of a debugging system for BOS? cheers, for your time and awesome mod contributions!
Is there any way to also add all the pickable junk items to this list... ? That would make a full picture of immersion in the game, along with the changes from this mod.
Doesn't the optional hardcore patch in LFO already do this? Debating on installing this mod with it as well, but unsure if it would be TOO strict on resources.
Hello, one question, this removes loot stored inside containers and placed items outside of them? or just the latter? Because idk if this conflicts with the Better locational damage loot module that lets you tweak the chance none of items in containers.
Im guessing this mod is one of those that doesnt appear in your load order, which is annoying because I cant move to the bottom of said load order in vortex.
Load order doesn't matter. And there's no plugin. It works via Base Object Swapper, so the only possible thing that would conflict are other base object swapper files that try to swap the same objects.
Hey, i especially like your PLI LessLoot modding on Glitchfinder's mods.
Desperately looked for a "no items respawn" mod (in looted locations), and there is none available. There was 'Immersive Respawn', but that is set hidden.
So my humble request: Could or would you make such a mod, that items don't restock when a location is looted?
Yes, i believe that (i was myself a gameplay modder for very long years; not FO4 though).
Thing is for me i feel the "Wasteland" is first somewhat believable, when such a feature is real.
I'm using already all mods that i could find which reduce all kind of loot, so for example Glitchfinder's PLI's are the very exceptions.
In my case, the loot respawn is actually the gap to get a proper immersion with this game, in the regard of loot items. There are of course many other flawed aspects in vanilla Survival mode, which i was able to make plausible enough for me with diverse mods.
I just press thumbs that you find a recipe for "anti-pain in the ass"; FO4 modding energy at least is not your problem :)
Thanks a lot for the hint! I believe i found that once, but didn't try it. You say it works properly and i trust you. I will check the Never Respawn option. Will later throw a kudos to you, if it suceeds.
Works seemingly properly. A kinda game changer, so thanks once again, and the kudos.
For everyone who might be interested: I just have it very low in the list of 200+ plugins, so it takes prio (just in case, over my many other item related mods).
I did a mod that does exactly that, no respawn (e.g. the Hubflower in Wildwood Cemetery or Mr. Handy fuel tank at the entrance of the Super Duper Mart in Lexington), editing all cells one by one took me over 3 weeks at around 8 hours/daily. I swore to myself if I lose the . esp I'm done, eh eh. Might publish it one day, or not ...
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EDIT:
I commented some items out of the lists below. These items were causing CTDs for me. If you're not experience CTDs from this mod, then you can try to add them back in. (by deleting the semi-colon in front of the ID)EDIT2: I downgraded Fallout and all the CTDs are gone and the game in general is rock solid, and FPS is infinitely better. I'm un-commenting out the "problematic" items from the list.
Additions to Food:
;Purified Water
000366C0~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Dirty Water
000366BF~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50)
;Whiskey
000366C1~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Wine
000366C2~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Vodka
000366C3~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Bourbon
000366C4~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Noodle Cup
00017C73~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Gwinnett Stout
00022792~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Gwinnett Pale
000F9329~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Gwinnett Pilsner
000F932A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Gwinnett Lager
000F932B~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Gwinnett Ale
000F932C~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Gwinnett Brew
000F932D~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Rum
00145857~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Beer
0011EA93~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Preserved Instamash
000E377A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50)
;Potted Meat
0016D8C8~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50)
;Sweet Roll
000366BE~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Gum Drops
000330FC~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Bubblegum
000330F6~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
Additions to Chems:
;X-Cell
001506F4~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Day Tripper
00150729~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Daddy-O
00156D0B~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Grape Mentats
0010129A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Ultra Jet
00101299~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Psychobuff
00058AAC~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Overdrive
00058AAD~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Psychotats
00058AAA~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Psycho Jet
00058AA8~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Calmex
00058AA7~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Bufftats
00058AA5~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Buffjet
00058AA3~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Jet Fuel
000518D0~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Orange Mentats
000518C5~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Berry Mentats
000518BB~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Stealth Boy
000518D0~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Med-X
00033779~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Addictol
000459C5~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
;Fury
000628CA~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
Additions to Meds:
;Blood Pack
00052409~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Irradiated Blood
000E2F68~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50)
;Glowing Blood Pack
00058AB4~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Vim
03008833~DLCCoast.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Vim Captains Blend
030088A6~DLCCoast.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Vim Quartz
030088A8~DLCCoast.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Vim Refresh
030088AA~DLCCoast.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
And Nuka World cola/food:
;Nuka-Grape
06024534~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Cola Dark
06024536~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Cola Quartz
06024538~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Cola Orange
0602453A~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Cola Wild
0602453D~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Cola Victory
06024544~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Cotton Candy Bites
0602689A~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Funnel Cake
0602689B~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Cide
06030EF6~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Punch
06030EF7~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Rush
06030EF8~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Xtreme
06030EF9~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Cooler
06030EFA~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Void
06030EFB~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Love
06030EFC~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Berry
06030EFD~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Power
06030EFE~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Newka-Cola
06030EFF~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Twin
06030F00~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Fancy
06030F01~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Buzz
06030F02~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Ray
0603B8B2~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Frutti
0603B8B3~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Bombdrop
0603B8B4~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Free
06042C39~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Hearty
06042C3D~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Lixir
06042C41~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Nuka-Sunrise
06042C43~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
And Nuka World Chems:
;Calmex Silk
060418D1~DLCNukaWorld.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(85)
More foods:
;Grilled Radroach
0019797D~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Iguana Soup
00102157~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Deathclaw Steak
00101293~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Yao Guai Roast
0004696D~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Radstag Stew
0004696A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Ribeye Steak
0004695A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Yao Guai Ribs
00046955~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Grilled Radstag
00046952~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Radscorpion Steak
00046950~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Stingwing Filet
00046945~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Mole Rat Chunks
00046943~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Cooked Softshell Meat
00046942~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Roasted Mirelurk Meat
00046941~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Mutt Chops
00046940~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Bloodbug Steak
0004693F~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Squirrel Stew
00036927~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Squirrel Bits
000366BC~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50)
;Squirrel On A Stick
000366BB~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Iguana On A Stick
000330FE~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Iguana Bits
000330FD~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Crispy Squirrel Bits
000330FA~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Mirelurk Queen Steak
0021C00C~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Mutant Hound Chops
0021188E~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Deathclaw Wellingham
001A71E7~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Baked Bloatfly
0004A151~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Mirelurk Egg Omelette
0004693E~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Radscorpion Egg Omelette
0004693D~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Deathclaw Egg Omelette
0004693C~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
Smoking stuff and watches:
;Cigar
0008E36F~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Cigar Box
0005821E~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Cigarette
00059AB5~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Cigarette Carton
0005821C~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Box of San Francisco Sunlights
00159F0D~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Pack of Cigarettes
0005821A~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(95)
;Flip Lighter
00058224~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(75)
;Gold Plated Flip Lighter
00060E88~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(99)
;Gold Watch
00060E7C~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50)
;Silver Pocket Watch
0005821D~Fallout4.esm|0x067396~Fallout4.esm|NONE|chanceS(50)
After combing through each item, the issue is the Stimpack. Commenting it out, no CTDs.
I also combed through all of the extra Chems/Food/Meds I added to your list, and which I've posted below in another comment. There's a list of other items which cause CTDs as well, all seemingly random. For all the FormIDs check that comment I mentioned. I hope this helps, I'm pretty sure it's not a problem on my end, but seems no one else is experiencing this.
X-Cell
Orange Mentats
Stealth Boy
Med-X
Gwinnett Stout
Bubblegum
Vim Quartz
Vim Refresh
I'm using MO2 and my default mod list contains Damn Apocalypse, which I was suspecting might do something conflicting. But I'm testing your Swapper list on a new profile with just the requisite mods enabled and trying to start a new game.
No one else is having this issue? I was thinking it could have to do with the vault 111 overseer's office; some Objects in this room are scripted, like the 10mm pistol. Thought that might be an issue...
Do you know of a debugging system for BOS? cheers, for your time and awesome mod contributions!
Am I right that it's LL_Food_Packaged as I found in xedit?
Thank you!
Desperately looked for a "no items respawn" mod (in looted locations), and there is none available. There was 'Immersive Respawn', but that is set hidden.
So my humble request: Could or would you make such a mod, that items don't restock when a location is looted?
P.S. Sorry for the "slight" offtopic theme.
Thing is for me i feel the "Wasteland" is first somewhat believable, when such a feature is real.
I'm using already all mods that i could find which reduce all kind of loot, so for example Glitchfinder's PLI's are the very exceptions.
In my case, the loot respawn is actually the gap to get a proper immersion with this game, in the regard of loot items. There are of course many other flawed aspects in vanilla Survival mode, which i was able to make plausible enough for me with diverse mods.
I just press thumbs that you find a recipe for "anti-pain in the ass"; FO4 modding energy at least is not your problem :)
Works seemingly properly. A kinda game changer, so thanks once again, and the kudos.
For everyone who might be interested: I just have it very low in the list of 200+ plugins, so it takes prio (just in case, over my many other item related mods).
I'm just one of the hundreds of people who get up the guts to go out into the wasteland daily in search of supplies, I can't be that lucky.