Have you ever found yourself excited to get a new settlement, and get started building, only to discover there are literal piles of trash everywhere you cannot scrap and broken and/or multiple objects that are also not removable? So what is a player to do? A popular option for many is Scrap Everything, but that mod does not play well with many other mods as it breaks what is known as Precombines. Another option is for those with beefy systems to disable all Precombines in the game ini file. Both those options work poorly with larger mod series for example Sim Settlements 2, Horizon, etc.
Well my DC & R series is all about giving the cleaning power back to the player while keeping updated Precombines and Previs(PnP) and larger mod compatibility and keeping the original game visual style/being very lore friendly. This series removes those permanent unsightly trash and structural restrictions while keeping all the original removable objects, even trash, letting the player keep or scrap as they see fit.
The remodel portion addresses the other issue, which is that many vanilla structures cannot be repaired in game without using strange mismatch of parts. Most repaired home/settlement mods that are downloadable (done in CK) don't have Previs/Precombines either. Also many vanilla settlements have permanent objects in strange places that should be removable. So the goal here is twofold: maintain original design using lore friendly matching parts with basic structural repair i.e., walls, floor or ceilings, AND to remove those permanent counters, bathroom stalls, etc, that prevent deeper levels of settlement customization.
If you have any issues with missing visuals or collisions, or any other strange occurrences, please post below, preferably with load order and a screen shot.
The interior apartment mod is like yours in that it provides a basic space to build in. I like to use the extra rooms it provides. Hangman's Flat is more of a finished home mod.
Is there a height restriction with your mod? Can I build on the roof? Could be a good place for greenhouses/gardens.
Thanks for creating this mod series. It is greatly needed!
It would likely need to be Precombine/Previs patched.
Those extra areas might get over-written by the HA DCnR plugin as it needs to load last...and if you try to load the DCnR before the other HA mod it might work but will probably have chunks of buildings/road blinking in and out.
That would be a dream. I used this mod and it's amazing. However, I also wanted to run those two mods mentioned by you.
In Hangman's Alley, everything was perfect, no blinking. However, the street and buildings when you leave the DC Gate and go to the right were completely invisible, with additional blinking.
The load order was:
Hangman's Alley Deep Clean and Removable Shack (Precombines/Previs(PnP) were recalculated for all 9 cells)
Hangman's Alley Interior Apartments with Crafting - V2
Hangmans Alley Optimized ( previs/precombine files were regenerated)
Hangmans Alley Optimized With Crafting (fixed precombination and previsualization)
I guess having so many recalculated and fixed previs for the same areas is asking for trouble, however, I would love it if one could run these mods together.
Hangmans Alley Optimized does a good job of cleaning up too, however, yours is just better/cleaner.
Anyway, thank you for this mod! It's really great and impressive work.
is a slightly different usecase i know, but while using hangmans house and this mod, i had previs/combine (idk which is which, but i could se through most of the cell around here, and ik that is one of them i think the former)
and configuring LOOT to load this mod afterwards fixed it, while preserving the doorway to the apartments, idk what youre using it for, i just wanted a quit me space there so the home plate workshop doesnt restrict me at all
Brilliant, also just works, works with hagmans apartment player apartment and didnt reset the cell leaving me etrapped in a fridge being peppered by raiders,
i will now be making hangmans arms a big ass bar (thank you, and awesome work)
1. The rubble pile outside the main gate that gives access to the street level shortcut was retained or made scrappable, so you don't end up with a levitating staircase and more bothersome, balcony support beams that can't be removed at all. 2. It removed the hanging dead bodies. 3. You could scrap the wooden staircase and platform next to the previously unscrappable lifted shack.
You're one of the few mod authors I trust that knows how to edit worldspace properly, and this one is no different. I haven't done anything with my Hangman's Alley because everything is such a pain there, from the FPS drops to the general eyesore of the place. I installed this to test it out and fast traveled there from across the map expecting the standard FPS/LOD annoyances, and...they didn't happen. I ran around a bit and it was extremely smooth. Eerily smooth. I kept waiting for my system to start stuttering and driving me crazy and it didn't. It was just smoove as glass. I'd venture to say that even if I didn't plan on returning there to build anything, I'd install this anyway just for the performance boost. Well done, mate.
How big of a bribe would I need to offer to do Boston Airport next? 😜
Lore Be Damned aka NewWallington https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62217
Love this location and your Hangman's Alley. There is obviously a distance between the two places, but there is a conflict when they are installed at the same time. Could you please make a compatibility patch?
V1.26a - Precombines/Previs(PnP) So turns out I accidentally disabled two cells PnP just outside the HA previs.
Used a cool trick where objects that overlap the wrong way can be duplicated and using a staticDummy in a Static Collection and then the PnP can be rebuilt from the side of HA's previs.
V1.26 Another previs glitch and fix this time near DC entrance.
V1.25, more of the same, this time NW side.
V1.24 - minor but important update more fixes for precombine visual bugs, this time just east of the settlement.
Also got a new fix style that is more performance friendly, previous fix uses making things LOD, there was only like 5 objects. New method prevents merging the troublesome objects into the precombine entirely.
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Well my DC & R series is all about giving the cleaning power back to the player while keeping updated Precombines and Previs(PnP) and larger mod compatibility and keeping the original game visual style/being very lore friendly. This series removes those permanent unsightly trash and structural restrictions while keeping all the original removable objects, even trash, letting the player keep or scrap as they see fit.
The remodel portion addresses the other issue, which is that many vanilla structures cannot be repaired in game without using strange mismatch of parts. Most repaired home/settlement mods that are downloadable (done in CK) don't have Previs/Precombines either. Also many vanilla settlements have permanent objects in strange places that should be removable. So the goal here is twofold: maintain original design using lore friendly matching parts with basic structural repair i.e., walls, floor or ceilings, AND to remove those permanent counters, bathroom stalls, etc, that prevent deeper levels of settlement customization.
If you have any issues with missing visuals or collisions, or any other strange occurrences, please post below, preferably with load order and a screen shot.
Happy building!
If you see any other blinking in and out previs issues please post since I now have tools to fix that issue.
Hangman's Alley Interior Apartments at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)
Hangman's Flat - Raider or Overboss player home at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)
The interior apartment mod is like yours in that it provides a basic space to build in. I like to use the extra rooms it provides. Hangman's Flat is more of a finished home mod.
Is there a height restriction with your mod? Can I build on the roof? Could be a good place for greenhouses/gardens.
Thanks for creating this mod series. It is greatly needed!
Those extra areas might get over-written by the HA DCnR plugin as it needs to load last...and if you try to load the DCnR before the other HA mod it might work but will probably have chunks of buildings/road blinking in and out.
In Hangman's Alley, everything was perfect, no blinking. However, the street and buildings when you leave the DC Gate and go to the right were completely invisible, with additional blinking.
The load order was:
- Hangman's Alley Deep Clean and Removable Shack (Precombines/Previs(PnP) were recalculated for all 9 cells)
- Hangman's Alley Interior Apartments with Crafting - V2
- Hangmans Alley Optimized ( previs/precombine files were regenerated)
- Hangmans Alley Optimized With Crafting (fixed precombination and previsualization)
I guess having so many recalculated and fixed previs for the same areas is asking for trouble, however, I would love it if one could run these mods together.Hangmans Alley Optimized does a good job of cleaning up too, however, yours is just better/cleaner.
Anyway, thank you for this mod! It's really great and impressive work.
but while using hangmans house and this mod,
i had previs/combine (idk which is which, but i could se through most of the cell around here, and ik that is one of them i think the former)
and configuring LOOT to load this mod afterwards fixed it, while preserving the doorway to the apartments,
idk what youre using it for, i just wanted a quit me space there so the home plate workshop doesnt restrict me at all
i will now be making hangmans arms a big ass bar (thank you, and awesome work)
1. The rubble pile outside the main gate that gives access to the street level shortcut was retained or made scrappable, so you don't end up with a levitating staircase and more bothersome, balcony support beams that can't be removed at all.
2. It removed the hanging dead bodies.
3. You could scrap the wooden staircase and platform next to the previously unscrappable lifted shack.
How big of a bribe would I need to offer to do Boston Airport next? 😜
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62217
Love this location and your Hangman's Alley.
There is obviously a distance between the two places, but there is a conflict when they are installed at the same time.
Could you please make a compatibility patch?
Is this location unable to make a compatible patch?
So turns out I accidentally disabled two cells PnP just outside the HA previs.
Used a cool trick where objects that overlap the wrong way can be duplicated and using a staticDummy in a Static Collection and then the PnP can be rebuilt from the side of HA's previs.
V1.25, more of the same, this time NW side.
V1.24 - minor but important update more fixes for precombine visual bugs, this time just east of the settlement.
Also got a new fix style that is more performance friendly, previous fix uses making things LOD, there was only like 5 objects. New method prevents merging the troublesome objects into the precombine entirely.