Pansexual and bisexual are often seen as similar but are not the same. Bisexual is attraction to two or more genders, and pansexual is attraction regardless of gender.
amusingly, the way the original and modded perks work it would technically be omni-sexual. the original perks only cared if the sex of the NPC was opposite of you. So in theory, you'd get a damage bonus against house cats with the lady-killer perk.
Until there's a third gender, yes. They're basically the same thing, regardless of what people will tell you. You could argue pansexual is being attracted no matter your partners genitals, but at the same time you could say that for bisexual, too.
Then you get into muddled arguments about sex versus gender and blah blah gender binary blah blah genitals, and... just... no. While dictionaries are super, concepts of gender and sexuality continue to grow and evolve as we do, and it's not as simple as saying "one" or "both" any more. Still, regardless of whether you want to say bisexual is "both" or "two or more," it still takes gender/sex into account. Pansexual, however, feels attraction despite/regardless of gender/sex.
Until science proves the existence of those elusive extra genders I'll continue to believe in the gender binary. I'm not going to humor people with clunky made-up pronouns.
That's cute considering gender is a social construct. If you wanna talk science, talk specifically in terms of people with penises and people with vaginas (and don't forget those who don't fit neatly into these two categories). Many folks' terminology for these remains flawed because they continue to use "male" and "female" when instead they should be using "people with penises" and "people with vaginas" because genital configurations have absolutely nothing to do with gender. Society says "you're a male because you have a penis," but plenty of people don't feel that way and don't wish to be trapped by this silly socially enforced binary.
Anyway, I'm not going to waste more of my time or anyone else's responding here because we've completely derailed from anything having to do with the mod. Have a happy Christmas if you happen to celebrate it.
Seriously, we're debating this in a game that allows you to romance an AI personality that was transferred into a synthetic body? Pretty sure that goes outside male/female.
Gender doesn't need "scientifically proven" because it's not sex. Gender is a social construct, and there are third+ genders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender
But... if you insist on science regarding sex (NOT gender), there are animals that have more than 2 sexes, like the Ruff that has 1 female and 3 distinct male sexes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruff#Mating
Hmm.. Is it ok to continue if the uploader is participating? O.o
But why the term "third gender"? It seems like a more proper term would be non-gendered or something like that. If gender refers to the part of your sense of self relating to the sex of your body, then what would a third gender be based on?
I'm responding because, 1: this is silly in a game universe where there are clearly more than 2 genders. 2: it is well established among anthropologists and sociologists that there are third+ gender identities.
Using "Non" implies a negative or lack of, and can be read to imply that people who are outside the very western idea of gender being tied to sex are less than those who have a gender identity that matches their sex.
You could say the same thing for sexual orientation, why have all the different designations? why not straight and non-straight?
You wouldn't say "non-straight" because it implies straight is superior to all other identities that are being lumped together.
The fact of the matter is, once you get outside of western societies (which are the minority btw), the idea that there are more than 2 genders is nothing new.
I don't personally mind questions being asked, and if you're seriously curious you can PM me and I can link you to more info. But saying "pansexual IS bisexual" is invalidating of people who identify as "pansexual", any more of it will get this thread deleted.
Relax, my dudes. Regardless of what your stance is on this matter, this is the world of Fallout, not IRL. And in the world of FO, your options for romance and death by snu-snu are no longer limited to male & female humans, there are mutants, robots, ghouls, Dogmeat, aliens, AI, ghouls, etc.
Truly, it is a feast of fornication waiting to supped upon. PRAISE ATOM!
jamezghost Nope, whether you're referring to biological gender (intersex people are real just fyi) or not it's the same; there aren't just "two" genders, unless you think non-binary people are magical creatures straight out of fantasy books, go talk to trans ppl and actually learn things from them, for now the only cuck I see is you.
They've been in the DSM5 for 7 years and in culture for at least 5000, what do you expect? actual bottles of gender fluid at the drug store? some high tech brain scanner that can measure subjective ideas of masculinity and femininity?
"it's not like anybody wanted to imagine a pan handle stuck in somebody's butthole."
If anyone's good at drawing a Pip-non-gender-specific-person, that *totally* should be the icon for this perk as a forum uin-joke - hey, pansexual means *anything*, right? Humans, mutants, robots, cookware...
You need to install it manually. Extract the text files to the main Fallout directory(where Fallout4.exe is) and then extract the esp file to the data directory. The game only runs bat file that are in the main directory, that's why it's not working yet.
yeah I kind of wish they would have carried over the confirmed bachelor/ french female version that I can't pronounce, over to f4. But hey I can woo Hancock so that's a plus I guess :T
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adjective
2.
sexually responsive to both sexes; ambisexual.
noun
4.
a person sexually responsive to both sexes; ambisexual.
It's about attraction to sex, not gender. And now to look up "Peregrine"...
Anyway, I'm not going to waste more of my time or anyone else's responding here because we've completely derailed from anything having to do with the mod. Have a happy Christmas if you happen to celebrate it.
faeriexdecay, the name you use on youtube wouldn't happen to be QueenyPie would it?
Gender doesn't need "scientifically proven" because it's not sex. Gender is a social construct, and there are third+ genders:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender
But... if you insist on science regarding sex (NOT gender), there are animals that have more than 2 sexes, like the Ruff that has 1 female and 3 distinct male sexes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruff#Mating
But why the term "third gender"? It seems like a more proper term would be non-gendered or something like that. If gender refers to the part of your sense of self relating to the sex of your body, then what would a third gender be based on?
1: this is silly in a game universe where there are clearly more than 2 genders.
2: it is well established among anthropologists and sociologists that there are third+ gender identities.
Using "Non" implies a negative or lack of, and can be read to imply that people who are outside the very western idea of gender being tied to sex are less than those who have a gender identity that matches their sex.
You could say the same thing for sexual orientation, why have all the different designations? why not straight and non-straight?
You wouldn't say "non-straight" because it implies straight is superior to all other identities that are being lumped together.
The fact of the matter is, once you get outside of western societies (which are the minority btw), the idea that there are more than 2 genders is nothing new.
I don't personally mind questions being asked, and if you're seriously curious you can PM me and I can link you to more info. But saying "pansexual IS bisexual" is invalidating of people who identify as "pansexual", any more of it will get this thread deleted.
... what?
it only has everything to do with gender, of which there are two.
you cuck.
Truly, it is a feast of fornication waiting to supped upon. PRAISE ATOM!
it's not like anybody wanted to imagine a pan handle stuck in somebody's butthole.
If anyone's good at drawing a Pip-non-gender-specific-person, that *totally* should be the icon for this perk as a forum uin-joke - hey, pansexual means *anything*, right? Humans, mutants, robots, cookware...
The game only runs bat file that are in the main directory, that's why it's not working yet.