So, if you're having CTD's I believe I figured out the issue. First, fire up FO4Edit. In the Perks section of the mod, there are four vanilla perks that have 5 ranks, Science, Gun Nut, Demo Expert/Explosives, and Medic. That 5th rank appears to be a placeholder, likely for further expansion. As of now, that 5th rank is identical to the 4th rank of each Perk including the level when you'd reach said rank. Two Perk ranks with the same record are likely causing the CTD.
The stop gap solution is to remove connections and references to the 5th rank. In the record for the 4th rank of each perk, under the entry for "next rank" simply pull over the entry from Be Exceptional where it refers back to the 1st rank. You already would have it at that point, so that's fine. Also, each record will have an integer entry for Max No. of Perks. Make sure that number is 4. You'll have to do this in the record for EVERY rank of each perk, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.
I know that's a lot and it's difficult to explain without a visual, but now it's loading consistently for me. Hopefully, this works for you.
Wish I could say, "Glad to help," but the fix was premature. It seems I can start a new game, but once I play a while, save, exit, and try to fire up the game again I get a CTD.
Another thing I tried was removing all the vanilla perk rank 5's from the 'BSS' skills under the Quests section in FO4Edit. That worked once, but subsequent loads CTD.
Yeah, your Perks list looks like fun I really want to try it, so much I'm willing to spend hours try to find a solution, lol.
Here is my Buffout crash log report if it helps:
==================================================== SCANNING THE LOG FOR SPECIFIC (POSSIBLE) CUPLRITS... ==================================================== LIST OF (POSSIBLE) PLUGIN CULRIPTS: - [44] T6M_PerksPack.esp ----- These Plugins were caught by Buffout 4 and some of them might be responsible for this crash. You can try disabling any listed plugins and recheck your game, though this method is unreliable. ----- LIST OF (POSSIBLE) FORM ID CULRIPTS: Form ID: 4400000E Form ID: 0016578F Form ID: 4400000D -----
Note: the 2 form ID's being 44 seem to change, sometimes it'll be 000D & 000C, even 000A & 000B, but the middle ID never changes. I've looked at that record several times and can't find an issue with it. After I tweaked it to remove Science Perk 5, that is.
Compatible with "You Are Exceptional" (Be Exceptional + You Are SPECIAL combined, remake) and Hot Diggity Redux? EDIT: Since the description only mentions the original Be Exceptional.
I think I figured out how to stop this thing from crashing on startup. I got sick of this mod crashing all the time so I decided to go all out and outright delete any perk that buffout named as the culprit. I had to delete all ranks of zombie survival guide and the hunter perk. and it worked. so yeah, read the scanned buffout log and delete any perk that's named as the cause of the crashes untill it no longer crashes. oh and don't bother deleting science 5 or some s#*!, it doesn't work. only delete perks added by this mod.
I've been messing around in xedit for a few hours trying to figure out why this isn't working for me.
I've traced it down to Be exceptional, PerksToRemove.
My guess would be that a simple override adding the new rank 5 perks would fix the issue.
Though that's just me fiddling in xedit.
As for logs, I have consistently traced it down to science rank 4, Hunter 1 and 2 but rank 2 gets repeated a lot, even though it looks fine in xedit.
Hope this helps.
Also this mod does not play nice with VAFS, though that's not your fault.
EDIT: ahh, I found the issue, Science 4 points to science 1 instead of 5. (Perk Next Rank) Changing it fixes the issues completely.
EDIT2: This mod does not play nice with complex sorter. CTD with it enabled, cause seems linked to IBSPerksToRemove and IBSPerks. Comparing to other mods with more direct support for be exceptional they have an overrides with these category and their new perks
Working theory is that adding the rank 5 perks to IBSPerkToRemove, And the new perks to IBSPerk will solve the issue. Need more testing
So before adding this as a bug i thought i'd ask here. I have a problem because even tho i dont use weapon overhaul redux i still get the perks for crafting ammunition. I selected "no" to extra addons when installing simply because i dont use any of them. Has anyone encountered this issue ?
I'll post a link with a modified version, hopefully crashless. For me, reason remains unknown, "loader" WO-R perks was also an issue, so those are gone. Link to G-Drive
P. S. main mod is still required, i just edited the ESP P. P. S. also delete skripts. They are actually the source of crashes.
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The stop gap solution is to remove connections and references to the 5th rank. In the record for the 4th rank of each perk, under the entry for "next rank" simply pull over the entry from Be Exceptional where it refers back to the 1st rank. You already would have it at that point, so that's fine. Also, each record will have an integer entry for Max No. of Perks. Make sure that number is 4. You'll have to do this in the record for EVERY rank of each perk, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.
I know that's a lot and it's difficult to explain without a visual, but now it's loading consistently for me. Hopefully, this works for you.
I believe that could be just fixed by putting the relevant perks last, so the Perks-Pack would override anything that also edits the vanilla perks.
Another thing I tried was removing all the vanilla perk rank 5's from the 'BSS' skills under the Quests section in FO4Edit. That worked once, but subsequent loads CTD.
Yeah, your Perks list looks like fun I really want to try it, so much I'm willing to spend hours try to find a solution, lol.
Here is my Buffout crash log report if it helps:
====================================================
SCANNING THE LOG FOR SPECIFIC (POSSIBLE) CUPLRITS...
====================================================
LIST OF (POSSIBLE) PLUGIN CULRIPTS:
- [44] T6M_PerksPack.esp
-----
These Plugins were caught by Buffout 4 and some of them might be responsible for this crash.
You can try disabling any listed plugins and recheck your game, though this method is unreliable.
-----
LIST OF (POSSIBLE) FORM ID CULRIPTS:
Form ID: 4400000E
Form ID: 0016578F
Form ID: 4400000D
-----
Note: the 2 form ID's being 44 seem to change, sometimes it'll be 000D & 000C, even 000A & 000B, but the middle ID never changes. I've looked at that record several times and can't find an issue with it. After I tweaked it to remove Science Perk 5, that is.
Guy on the bugs thread named Acoua had the exact same problem FormIDs, which was fixed by putting T6M_PerksPack.esp LAST on the load order.
EDIT: Since the description only mentions the original Be Exceptional.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44075
I've been messing around in xedit for a few hours trying to figure out why this isn't working for me.
I've traced it down to Be exceptional, PerksToRemove.
My guess would be that a simple override adding the new rank 5 perks would fix the issue.
Though that's just me fiddling in xedit.
As for logs, I have consistently traced it down to science rank 4, Hunter 1 and 2 but rank 2 gets repeated a lot, even though it looks fine in xedit.
Hope this helps.
Also this mod does not play nice with VAFS, though that's not your fault.
EDIT: ahh, I found the issue, Science 4 points to science 1 instead of 5. (Perk Next Rank)
Changing it fixes the issues completely.
EDIT2: This mod does not play nice with complex sorter.
CTD with it enabled, cause seems linked to IBSPerksToRemove and IBSPerks.
Comparing to other mods with more direct support for be exceptional they have an overrides with these category and their new perks
Working theory is that adding the rank 5 perks to IBSPerkToRemove, And the new perks to IBSPerk will solve the issue.
Need more testing
I move it up the slightest bit, even just before complex sorter and it ctd.
I have a problem because even tho i dont use weapon overhaul redux i still get the perks for crafting ammunition. I selected "no" to extra addons when installing simply because i dont use any of them. Has anyone encountered this issue ?
For me, reason remains unknown, "loader" WO-R perks was also an issue, so those are gone.
Link to G-Drive
P. S. main mod is still required, i just edited the ESP
P. P. S. also delete skripts. They are actually the source of crashes.