Sorry, for the late reply. I kinda lost a bit when my SSD got corrupted. I was able to save most of it though.
The clothing mods for I'm using for most of these pictures are Classy Chassis Outfits and Commonwealth Shorts there are conversions for nearly every body, but I'm using Fusion Girl.
Yeah, I am pretty sure she is. Her nose is a bit tall and she has a smaller face (jaw) than average, but she is based on some girls with those features.
Not sure why you want to come here and show off to a person who is uploading their first mod. Nice faces though.
Well, I am sorry for disappointing you. Please, don't be so sensitive. If you show your work to everybody here, in Nexus, you will have to be open to good intention criticisms (not to trolling ...), and I think that I was not rude at all. I did not identify your first pictures with a traditional japanese girl, and I told you. The last one has a more asian face but, for me, she still lacks an 'asian' flavour.
I don't think "Asian...are you sure?" is good intension criticism. It sounds more like snark and flexing...especially when posted with your own work. I read it as "your character isn't Asian. These are Asians." <- which is haughty and condescending. It is trolling, which in your own words, I do not have to be open to. The addition of your own work for comparison in such a context seems little more than you advertising your work on my mod page.
If trolling wasn't your intention, then I do have some advice for you:
Good intentioned criticism is where you point out the flaws and give actual advice on how to improve it. In this case, you could add your work to "show" where I went wrong (and even reference it in your criticism).
I also don't feel I was being overly critical in my post either (I actually did criticize my own work and adjust it after all). I also complimented your pictures. I think your second post here is much better to be honest. I think you are the one who is being sensitive, to be honest. It is important to realize that intonation cannot easily be put into text. When you comment, be careful about how it reads. <- good intentioned criticism
Still, if you wanted to help, what do you mean by 'Asian' flavor? If not, don't worry about it.
The 'asian' characters linked are not mine. I found them in the Internet.
When we, the european people think of an asian character, our brain imagines a typical japanese drawings, or films (Akira Kurosawa is one of my favourite film directors). I am spanish, and all my close family is dark skinned, brown eyes and hair, but ... my sister is absolutely blonde and with pale blue eyes (a recesive gen that makes her look like a sweden - yes, there are brown haired sweden too), so if I upload a character with my sister's characteristics and title it "A latin character preset", I am sure that most people would say ¿Are you sure?.
I am a passionate of japanese traditions and people and culture, so I apologize for chosing a comment that offended you.
I see. Yeah, I live here in Japan, so it is a little difficult for me to stay only to stereotypes. I think that is because I see different Japanese faces all of the time, not just the ones in internationally famous movies or old drawings (which would not be accurate for the majority of today's population due to nutrition/lifestyle changes).
#stereotypes I will take your complaints into consideration. This is v1.0 after all.
I will also inform Minami Hinase, Nana Yanagisawa, Anri Sugihara, and my friend that their features are not Asian enough for Canadians.
My point is that there is a lot of variation in Japanese faces, including tall noses and small/thin jaws. I see them everyday. This is also true for bodies.
My snark is aimed at the manner in which you gave advice. What prevented you from writing something like "I think she'd look better with a shorter nose and wider jaw"? It's shorter and more polite.
Seriously, though, I also feel the jaw needs widened a bit. I might even adjust the nose to make her look more stereotypically Asian.
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The clothing mods for I'm using for most of these pictures are Classy Chassis Outfits and Commonwealth Shorts there are conversions for nearly every body, but I'm using Fusion Girl.
Asian female character?
Another asian female
:)
Not sure why you want to come here and show off to a person who is uploading their first mod. Nice faces though.
If you show your work to everybody here, in Nexus, you will have to be open to good intention criticisms (not to trolling ...), and I think that I was not rude at all.
I did not identify your first pictures with a traditional japanese girl, and I told you. The last one has a more asian face but, for me, she still lacks an 'asian' flavour.
Dont worry. I will not trouble you again.
Enjoy the game!
If trolling wasn't your intention, then I do have some advice for you:
Good intentioned criticism is where you point out the flaws and give actual advice on how to improve it. In this case, you could add your work to "show" where I went wrong (and even reference it in your criticism).
I also don't feel I was being overly critical in my post either (I actually did criticize my own work and adjust it after all). I also complimented your pictures. I think your second post here is much better to be honest. I think you are the one who is being sensitive, to be honest. It is important to realize that intonation cannot easily be put into text. When you comment, be careful about how it reads. <- good intentioned criticism
Still, if you wanted to help, what do you mean by 'Asian' flavor? If not, don't worry about it.
The 'asian' characters linked are not mine. I found them in the Internet.
When we, the european people think of an asian character, our brain imagines a typical japanese drawings, or films (Akira Kurosawa is one of my favourite film directors). I am spanish, and all my close family is dark skinned, brown eyes and hair, but ... my sister is absolutely blonde and with pale blue eyes (a recesive gen that makes her look like a sweden - yes, there are brown haired sweden too), so if I upload a character with my sister's characteristics and title it "A latin character preset", I am sure that most people would say ¿Are you sure?.
I am a passionate of japanese traditions and people and culture, so I apologize for chosing a comment that offended you.
I will take your complaints into consideration. This is v1.0 after all.
I will also inform Minami Hinase, Nana Yanagisawa, Anri Sugihara, and my friend that their features are not Asian enough for Canadians.
My point is that there is a lot of variation in Japanese faces, including tall noses and small/thin jaws. I see them everyday. This is also true for bodies.
My snark is aimed at the manner in which you gave advice. What prevented you from writing something like "I think she'd look better with a shorter nose and wider jaw"? It's shorter and more polite.
Seriously, though, I also feel the jaw needs widened a bit. I might even adjust the nose to make her look more stereotypically Asian.
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