Spawns on raiders too often from my testing, though I'm hoping with other weapon mods it'll get less common. Usually edit the injection quest of mods myself in xEdit but since it uses custom LL scripts I don't really know how to do that. Great mod otherwise! I picked the Over-Under version since I think the animation lines up a little better.
Hey, this thing's an exclusively pistol-grip version of the double-barreled shotgun, right? Does it still use the Rifleman perk, or is it a Gunslinger weapon now?
EDIT: Ages later, I caught the bit in the description where it said "and tied to pistol perks." Thanks, and sorry for the trouble!
If you're using the You Are Special perk overhaul mod, not anymore. It qualifies as a common Longarm shotgun, instead of a Handgun. I had to remove the shotgun keyword to make it work properly. Hopefully this won't affect the leveled list integration.
1. It doesn't act as a shotgun, there is no pellet spread, even though it has very short barrel, it's more like a simple pistol with a slightly stronger single round. 2. It has about the same damage as a shotgun (which I am not proficient with), even though it's a pistol (which I am proficient with, so should have about 3x the damage of what it has now, because of the multiple projectiles it shoots). A very short range, very powerful pistol. 3. A Tactical Reload patch would be nice, the Ingame Switch unfortunately doesn't work with it. Can someone make one, please? Or could it use the Caravan Shotgun animation, maybe? But that's not a pistol... Custom animation would be needed then. Truth to be told, with the over-under version it's barely noticeable, that both shells are being replaced, so I'll use that one for now. 4. The model itself is awesome, 100% immersive, a great addition to any game. Too bad we can only use one variant, because both are badass.
Edit: As my char became stronger, the gun now does twice the damage of regular shotguns, so I'm completely satisfied with it. It saved my life many times. It's good to have a weapon that uses the shells that would otherwise just sit in a container at my base!
Great job on your mod, jkruse05. Thanks for sharing it :)
With regard to sawed versus sawn, you used the correct word. One can say Fred sawed off the shotgun (the act of making a long shotgun shorter), but a shotgun is sawn off as it doesn't do the act. It's in a sawn off state :)
It's likely many people call it a sawed off shotgun, but that would be informal grammar, like saying "It's me" instead of "It's I" or saying "It's us" instead of "it's we."
Oh yeah, I knew I was grammatically correct, but naming conventions don't always follow grammar rules. I was more wondering which was the more commonly used for this weapon. I believe sawed is really more common, but I had already used sawn on a bunch of stuff, so I just stuck with it.
I...have plenty of experience with grammar and writing, I just don't really care how I use it sometimes.
Sawed-off is an Americanism. They excuse it as simplified lingo, but it's just poor grammar. I'll hide my long explainer to save space:
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In the early-to-mid part of the last century there was a move in the US to simplify/modernise the lingo. It was also a deliberate effort to be different from the mother country - i.e. we're better, so we can't keep the mother tongue unchanged. For it was heavily tinged with Anglophobia - a result of America's subsequent foundation myths relying on falsely demonising the Brits. And you have to realise until 1935 the US were still even renewing plans and placing war materiel to fight a paranoid imagined war against the Brits via Canada.
Hence the new American English, with things like "archeology" instead of archaeology, and "color" instead of colour, were partly due to this American ego/identity. And from these many "improvements" some Americans even now (retrospectively) claim they officially removed the word sawn to leave sawed as the sole past-participle of saw. But that example is simply an ignorant lie - it just fell out of favour down to a lot of persistently poor grammar. Another classic example of this is the "oversize load" warnings on trucks when it should be oversized.
And this supposed US modern language simplification effort was so haphazard they ended up making a mess. Take for example "defence" - they changed this to defense on the (Anglophobic) basis it's closer/truer to middle-French/Latin - which is correct except it's been spelt with a "c" in English for centuries since Anglo-Norman times and the Americans forgot to change the related words of fence and fencing etc. Another classic is changing things like travelled to traveled and so on, but not with as any clearer a rule than British English had - so for example bugged isn't now buged. I could go on - I spent two decades working in the US and have hundreds of examples of their corruption of the mother tongue...
British English is of course full of oddities too, but they're ones which had slowly evolved organically over at least a couple of thousand years of history, with reasons thereof, whereas the American effort was entirely artificial, incomplete, self-contradictory and in some parts even illiterate/ignorant. Sadly of course, English standards are lately slipping in the UK and her other former colonies too, due to kids nowadays being allowed to spell as they see fit - as correcting them is bigoted or something...
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thanks!
EDIT: Ages later, I caught the bit in the description where it said "and tied to pistol perks." Thanks, and sorry for the trouble!
2. It has about the same damage as a shotgun (which I am not proficient with), even though it's a pistol (which I am proficient with, so should have about 3x the damage of what it has now, because of the multiple projectiles it shoots). A very short range, very powerful pistol.
3. A Tactical Reload patch would be nice, the Ingame Switch unfortunately doesn't work with it. Can someone make one, please? Or could it use the Caravan Shotgun animation, maybe? But that's not a pistol... Custom animation would be needed then. Truth to be told, with the over-under version it's barely noticeable, that both shells are being replaced, so I'll use that one for now.
4. The model itself is awesome, 100% immersive, a great addition to any game. Too bad we can only use one variant, because both are badass.
Edit: As my char became stronger, the gun now does twice the damage of regular shotguns, so I'm completely satisfied with it. It saved my life many times. It's good to have a weapon that uses the shells that would otherwise just sit in a container at my base!
With regard to sawed versus sawn, you used the correct word. One can say Fred sawed off the shotgun (the act of making a long shotgun shorter), but a shotgun is sawn off as it doesn't do the act. It's in a sawn off state :)
It's likely many people call it a sawed off shotgun, but that would be informal grammar, like saying "It's me" instead of "It's I" or saying "It's us" instead of "it's we."
I...have plenty of experience with grammar and writing, I just don't really care how I use it sometimes.
Hence the new American English, with things like "archeology" instead of archaeology, and "color" instead of colour, were partly due to this American ego/identity. And from these many "improvements" some Americans even now (retrospectively) claim they officially removed the word sawn to leave sawed as the sole past-participle of saw. But that example is simply an ignorant lie - it just fell out of favour down to a lot of persistently poor grammar. Another classic example of this is the "oversize load" warnings on trucks when it should be oversized.
And this supposed US modern language simplification effort was so haphazard they ended up making a mess. Take for example "defence" - they changed this to defense on the (Anglophobic) basis it's closer/truer to middle-French/Latin - which is correct except it's been spelt with a "c" in English for centuries since Anglo-Norman times and the Americans forgot to change the related words of fence and fencing etc. Another classic is changing things like travelled to traveled and so on, but not with as any clearer a rule than British English had - so for example bugged isn't now buged. I could go on - I spent two decades working in the US and have hundreds of examples of their corruption of the mother tongue...
British English is of course full of oddities too, but they're ones which had slowly evolved organically over at least a couple of thousand years of history, with reasons thereof, whereas the American effort was entirely artificial, incomplete, self-contradictory and in some parts even illiterate/ignorant. Sadly of course, English standards are lately slipping in the UK and her other former colonies too, due to kids nowadays being allowed to spell as they see fit - as correcting them is bigoted or something...