since my last comment i've used EL for a few things but with some voice actors and their work i'd need permission to do so, and i'm not sure if i have the time or energy to reach out to the voice actor for Danse to ask (and/or pay for his time, i'm broke)
Hello! I saw in the permissions that users are allowed to port this so I thought I'd drop a comment to say I'm giving it a go. :) I will of course credit & add a link here once I have the chance to test it! Thank you very much for your work!
Very much looking forward to trying this out. Danse is one of those companions I do like for his sheer potential but the Botherhood of Steal is a faction I literally never side with, and most mods to let you keep him are very buggy. This mod looks very stable and nonintrusive, and more importantly more recently updated than most other Danse mods. Ty very much for your work :)
is there a way to make it so that danse no longer hates/dislikes dialogue that's pro-synth? i feel like it would make a lot of sense post blind betrayal
Great mod, it really doesn't make sense when we got him running around acting like if he's still in BoS. The only improvement I'd suggest is, a lot of dialogues can be edited to remove 'soldier' references without having to remove the whole dialogue. For example "There's no reason to take unnecessary risks like that, soldier." to "There's no reason to take unnecessary risks like that". and you can have two version of the dialogue (with the word soldier, and without) based on the condition of the quest, but you have to splice the sound files up.
Some of the dialogue might be able to remain in the context that Danse is talking about the Brotherhood in a more 'generic' note - or else he'd be speaking nothing at all. I'd believe he still admires BoS mission even after he's out from it - but may start re-considering about their view on synths. Like the interjections where it's just 'I remember Brotherhhood did this'.
[I'd imagine Danse is still viewing himself as sort of a straight-edge veteran who would still talking be about 'Back in at war' all the time because military culture is in his heart, and maintain BoS-esque morality. He'd still be hating chem usage, cannibalism, betrayal... he may still hate ghouls and supermutants... but he might be more relaxed in some more aspect.]
thanks for the kind words! i agree, though the Creation Kit for FO4 confuses me so i'm not sure how i'd go about splicing+adding dialogue with it. surprisingly (for me at least) the FO3/FNV GECK are much easier to navigate than the Skyrim/SSE/FO4 ones
with programs like Audacity and XVASynth it'd be easy to splice dialogue, but actually implementing it is a nightmare for me since i don't understand how the dialogue trees work in FO4 Creation Kit. sorry!!
I would actually recommend splicing and editing from the vanilla dialogue first because I guess the 'emotions' of the line would sticks around much better. A lot of it will be a simple removal of 'solider'- the tedious part is cutting out and plugging it back into the Creation Kit...
I do think XVASynth would be fairly useful if you want to develop the mod further too, to give him something new to say that's more fitting to the situation
Sadly I still haven't got time to implement the edited lines I mentioned (cut 'soldier' out from his dialogues) but this is sort of a 'lite' version where some of BoS references that does not imply that he is still in BoS are restored...- this sits between vanilla and your version. I made this a while back and I thought I'd remain it a personal use but here I'd rather share it. [Removed, I'm actually working on an actual overhaul for it]
i'm getting "access denied" with clicking the folder, but you're welcome to upload your version here on nexus if you'd like! all i ask is that you credit me for the original work or have it rely on this mod if possible
I fixed the link. Now you can open it. it is the dialogue + rename version only though. I don't know if I should be uploading it though since it is mostly just record delete (though It took a while for me to do it)
it's your choice if you wanna upload it! you've got my permission/blessing record deletes (or any editing using XEdit) can take awhile and idk about others, but i really appreciate it when people take the effort to put that kind of work in and share it with others y'know?
I wondered if It is possible for me to make a mod inspired by your mod here? Where I would re-splice and gave additional dialogues for Danse after Blind Betrayal to expand his life and personalities that is beyond the Brotherhood? Perhaps use a script to dynamically change Paladin Danse name into just Danse after you finish the quest.
sure thing! you don't even have to credit me if it's just inspired by mine :) scripting is my weak point so i can't help with that unfortunately, but if you need help with...well, anything that's NOT scripting just dm me
Taking this as companion, i got legs cripptled during a fight, what does he says ? be careful, you gonna slow us with your leg.... with a cold bossy voice tone. Seriously ? like he's the boss of a BOS squad and i'm an initiate at his order.... while if i'm not mistaken, the boss is me no ? and my companion are here to help me no. Comsequence : openpipboy, companion holotape, dismiss danse , go back to mummy. Never hired him again. another failure from B among 1000 others. i whish your mod could correct B dumbness and remove stupid sentences like that which makes the situation ridiculous and the companion not tolerable..
"another failure from B among 1000 others"?? what's that even mean?
if you don't like my mod then don't use it. i only removed dialogue lines where he mentions the BOS/power armor/etc; with Danse saying "be careful, you're gonna slow us down" it could arguably be seen as concern - maybe his military background had that phrase be the first to come to mind
if i were to "make him tolerable" i'd have to completely redo his dialogue from scratch, which i'm not doing. he has a military background so he's still going to fall back on some old habits despite my mod's edits - unless you want him to be completely silent
Just an FYI, all files still have looksmenu customization compendium and eyes of beauty as masters, even the no appearance ones. It can be fixed quickly in xEdit by yourself if you use wrye bash to make dummy files. How to Remove Masters from a Mod - YouTube
I am not sure if there's potential conflict with any other mods in my list, but as soon as Danse finishes giving the speech at the end (regardless of whether I chose to be Elder or convince Danse to be the elder), everyone turns hostile.
I can think of a few things, but I'm not sure. I made sure I started a new game, reached the stage right before the battle for bunker hill, I'm only allied with the Institute and, of course, the Brotherhood. I have installed "Ad Victoriam" and "Subversion - The Institute-Railroad Alliance Alternate Ending" which are my only guesses for conflict here...
Anyhow, modlist follows:
AAF.esm ArmorKeywords.esm ConcealedArmor.esm DLCCoast.esm DLCNukaWorld.esm DLCRobot.esm DLCworkshop01.esm DLCworkshop02.esm DLCworkshop03.esm Fallout4.esm Robot Home Defence.esm Settlement Electricity Overhaul.esm Advanced Settlement Power.esp aesscroungerexpanded.esp aesscroungerexpandeddlc.esp AnyModAnyWeapon2.esp Automatron For All.esp AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp battletech.esp Better Adhesive.esp Better Weapon Scrap.esp BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp BlurKillerComplete.esp BobbleGirl.esp BobbleheadStatues.esp BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp brtrn_dogmeatDoubleArmorHelmetInvisible.esp C'Legendary.esp cartman1975_concrete-glass_grey.esp CBBE.esp Cinematic Lensflares.esp COB_Electric.esp Commonwealth Arsenal Reloaded.esp CommonwealthVehicles.esp Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp CompRedo.esp ConcealedArmor.esp Craftable Adhesives.esp CraftableAmmunition_Adjustable.esp CraftableAmmunition_FarHarbor.esp CROSS_CryoLance.esp CROSS_PlasRail.esp Custom Concrete with Glass.esp dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp DiamondCitywithoutTrash0.21.esp DiamondCitywithoutTrash0.5.esp DYNAVISION.esp EBMD_AllInOne.esp Enhanced And Generally Superior Crafting Perks.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Extended weapon mods.esp FaceMaxson.esp Faster Terminal Displays (100x).esp Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp frogs345CombinedWeaponMods.esp functionalobjects_vanilla.esp Fusion Gun.esp GKX Better Destruction Through Science!.esp GKX Truly Legendary.esp GunnersOverhaul.esp Gunsmith Extended.esp GVTFacility.esp Hard Legendary Giant Creatures.esp HPA.esp huntingrifleset4k.esp HuntingRifleSounds.esp Insignificant Object Remover.esp InstituteReformation.esp laserproject4k.esp Legendary Overhaul.esp Liberty_PA.esp LightDark.esp LockedSafesLegendaryLoot.esp LongerPowerLinesInf.esp LooksMenu.esp Loot Detector.esp LootableCars.esp LootableCrates MergedDLCs.esp LootableCrates.esp LT_Scrappable_Commonwealth_(no_previs).esp LT_Scrappable_Trash.esp M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp M8r_Item_Tags_Vanilla_EN.esp Max Performance - All Interiors - All DLC.esp Moddable Plasma Caster.esp More detailed perk description dlc version.esp More Power Armour Mods - Automatron.esp More Power Armour Mods.esp More Weapon Receivers.esp MoreWeapMods.esp Movable Power Armor.esp MWR - 50 Cal Minigun.esp NewCalibers.esp NoTwigs.esp Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp Omniguous-no-useless-papers.esp PIP-Pad.esp PipboyAndHeadlampsEnhancedBrightWhite.esp plasmaproject.esp PowerArmorImpactEffects.esp PowerArmorJumpUpgrade.esp Quad_Accelerator.esp Remove all trash.esp Research Projects.esp Respawnable Legendary Bosses.esp RestorePAFrames.esp Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp SanctuaryHillsOverhual.esp SanctuaryHillsOverhual_LootableCratesPatch.esp Savant.esp SavrenXBetterRobotHDLibertyPrime.esp ScavengerAllDLC.esp ScrappableLegendaries.esp sectorv.esp Size Overhual - DLC.esp SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp SKK476OpenWorld.esp SKKFastBOS.esp SnapSnap.esp StartMeUp.esp SuperAffinity.esp Tactical Thinking.esp The Eyes of Beauty Looking Stranger.esp The Eyes Of Beauty.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp unleveled.esp Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp VaultTecEngineering.esp VeryRichMerchants.esp VeryShortNights_With_DLC_v1.esp VIS-G Item Sorting.esp Vivid Waters.esp Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp Weapon Mods Mod.esp WeaponScaling-Melee.esp WeaponScaling.esp WWE.esp WZWildWasteland.esp _MDCModGatlingLaser.esp
"Ad Victoriam", "Subversion - The Institute-Railroad Alliance Alternate Ending", "Face Maxson", and any other mods that edit the BOS questline probably conflict. i'll do my best to make compatibility patches when i can but as of right now i have limited disk space so i can't reinstall FO4 at this time
88 comments
Some of the dialogue might be able to remain in the context that Danse is talking about the Brotherhood in a more 'generic' note - or else he'd be speaking nothing at all. I'd believe he still admires BoS mission even after he's out from it - but may start re-considering about their view on synths. Like the interjections where it's just 'I remember Brotherhhood did this'.
[I'd imagine Danse is still viewing himself as sort of a straight-edge veteran who would still talking be about 'Back in at war' all the time because military culture is in his heart, and maintain BoS-esque morality. He'd still be hating chem usage, cannibalism, betrayal... he may still hate ghouls and supermutants... but he might be more relaxed in some more aspect.]
with programs like Audacity and XVASynth it'd be easy to splice dialogue, but actually implementing it is a nightmare for me since i don't understand how the dialogue trees work in FO4 Creation Kit. sorry!!
I do think XVASynth would be fairly useful if you want to develop the mod further too, to give him something new to say that's more fitting to the situation
[Removed, I'm actually working on an actual overhaul for it]
all i ask is that you credit me for the original work or have it rely on this mod if possible
record deletes (or any editing using XEdit) can take awhile and idk about others, but i really appreciate it when people take the effort to put that kind of work in and share it with others y'know?
scripting is my weak point so i can't help with that unfortunately, but if you need help with...well, anything that's NOT scripting just dm me
Seriously ? like he's the boss of a BOS squad and i'm an initiate at his order.... while if i'm not mistaken, the boss is me no ? and my companion are here to help me no.
Comsequence : openpipboy, companion holotape, dismiss danse , go back to mummy. Never hired him again.
another failure from B among 1000 others.
i whish your mod could correct B dumbness and remove stupid sentences like that which makes the situation ridiculous and the companion not tolerable..
if you don't like my mod then don't use it. i only removed dialogue lines where he mentions the BOS/power armor/etc; with Danse saying "be careful, you're gonna slow us down" it could arguably be seen as concern - maybe his military background had that phrase be the first to come to mind
if i were to "make him tolerable" i'd have to completely redo his dialogue from scratch, which i'm not doing. he has a military background so he's still going to fall back on some old habits despite my mod's edits - unless you want him to be completely silent
I made sure I started a new game, reached the stage right before the battle for bunker hill, I'm only allied with the Institute and, of course, the Brotherhood. I have installed "Ad Victoriam" and "Subversion - The Institute-Railroad Alliance Alternate Ending" which are my only guesses for conflict here...
Anyhow, modlist follows:
AAF.esmArmorKeywords.esm
ConcealedArmor.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
Fallout4.esm
Robot Home Defence.esm
Settlement Electricity Overhaul.esm
Advanced Settlement Power.esp
aesscroungerexpanded.esp
aesscroungerexpandeddlc.esp
AnyModAnyWeapon2.esp
Automatron For All.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
battletech.esp
Better Adhesive.esp
Better Weapon Scrap.esp
BetterAutomatronWeapons.esp
BlurKillerComplete.esp
BobbleGirl.esp
BobbleheadStatues.esp
BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp
brotherhood of steel overhaul.esp
brtrn_dogmeatDoubleArmorHelmetInvisible.esp
C'Legendary.esp
cartman1975_concrete-glass_grey.esp
CBBE.esp
Cinematic Lensflares.esp
COB_Electric.esp
Commonwealth Arsenal Reloaded.esp
CommonwealthVehicles.esp
Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp
CompRedo.esp
ConcealedArmor.esp
Craftable Adhesives.esp
CraftableAmmunition_Adjustable.esp
CraftableAmmunition_FarHarbor.esp
CROSS_CryoLance.esp
CROSS_PlasRail.esp
Custom Concrete with Glass.esp
dD-Action Ragdoll Force.esp
DiamondCitywithoutTrash0.21.esp
DiamondCitywithoutTrash0.5.esp
DYNAVISION.esp
EBMD_AllInOne.esp
Enhanced And Generally Superior Crafting Perks.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Extended weapon mods.esp
FaceMaxson.esp
Faster Terminal Displays (100x).esp
Fog Remover II (AIO) Recommended.esp
frogs345CombinedWeaponMods.esp
functionalobjects_vanilla.esp
Fusion Gun.esp
GKX Better Destruction Through Science!.esp
GKX Truly Legendary.esp
GunnersOverhaul.esp
Gunsmith Extended.esp
GVTFacility.esp
Hard Legendary Giant Creatures.esp
HPA.esp
huntingrifleset4k.esp
HuntingRifleSounds.esp
Insignificant Object Remover.esp
InstituteReformation.esp
laserproject4k.esp
Legendary Overhaul.esp
Liberty_PA.esp
LightDark.esp
LockedSafesLegendaryLoot.esp
LongerPowerLinesInf.esp
LooksMenu.esp
Loot Detector.esp
LootableCars.esp
LootableCrates MergedDLCs.esp
LootableCrates.esp
LT_Scrappable_Commonwealth_(no_previs).esp
LT_Scrappable_Trash.esp
M8rDisablePipboyEffects.esp
M8r_Item_Tags_Vanilla_EN.esp
Max Performance - All Interiors - All DLC.esp
Moddable Plasma Caster.esp
More detailed perk description dlc version.esp
More Power Armour Mods - Automatron.esp
More Power Armour Mods.esp
More Weapon Receivers.esp
MoreWeapMods.esp
Movable Power Armor.esp
MWR - 50 Cal Minigun.esp
NewCalibers.esp
NoTwigs.esp
Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp
Omniguous-no-useless-papers.esp
PIP-Pad.esp
PipboyAndHeadlampsEnhancedBrightWhite.esp
plasmaproject.esp
PowerArmorImpactEffects.esp
PowerArmorJumpUpgrade.esp
Quad_Accelerator.esp
Remove all trash.esp
Research Projects.esp
Respawnable Legendary Bosses.esp
RestorePAFrames.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
SanctuaryHillsOverhual.esp
SanctuaryHillsOverhual_LootableCratesPatch.esp
Savant.esp
SavrenXBetterRobotHDLibertyPrime.esp
ScavengerAllDLC.esp
ScrappableLegendaries.esp
sectorv.esp
Size Overhual - DLC.esp
SkibsWeapons-REDUX.esp
SKK476OpenWorld.esp
SKKFastBOS.esp
SnapSnap.esp
StartMeUp.esp
SuperAffinity.esp
Tactical Thinking.esp
The Eyes of Beauty Looking Stranger.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
unleveled.esp
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
VaultTecEngineering.esp
VeryRichMerchants.esp
VeryShortNights_With_DLC_v1.esp
VIS-G Item Sorting.esp
Vivid Waters.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Quest.esp
Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
Weapon Mods Mod.esp
WeaponScaling-Melee.esp
WeaponScaling.esp
WWE.esp
WZWildWasteland.esp
_MDCModGatlingLaser.esp