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  1. Aaron7491
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    The textures are not working so I'm holding an invisible pistol. Anyone else have this problem?

    Edit: Nevermind figured it out
  2. InadequateGrenade
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    I think it's time we blow this thing, get everybody and the stuff together. Okay, 3 - 2 - 1 let's jam!!!
  3. ostapchan
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    It give so much cowboy bebop vibe. Someone make spike or Faye outfit and with this gun it be soooo f***in' cool
    1. ZFret
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      I love that series. That's what made me want this.
    2. Turgidson
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      Yes, I need Spike, Faye, and Jet outfits and preset looks. Heck, throw in Ein for Dogmeat, and Edward for Piper's little sister.
  4. seanpmc69
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    While some of you are partially correct, you guys may as well have the full story.

    The IMI 941 has its roots in the excellent CZ-75, as mentioned. However, when the Israeli Govt. decided to pursue this weapon, they did so in concert with Tanfoglio, not CZ. Tanfoglio is an Italian firearms manufacturer, with a well deserved reputation for quality. Some of the best known, and most accurate "Target" variants of the CZ-75 are made by Tanfoglio, such as the Tanfoglio "Witness Match Xtreme". Also, as that name might suggest, Tanfoglio are the manufacturers of the well known "EAA Witness" line of CZ-75 based handguns.

    When the Israeli Govt. approved development of the weapon, they worked closely with Tanfoglio's engineering team, and the original batch of 941's were partially made by Tanfoglio, and partially by IMI. I'm not sure of the exact ratio, but I do know that part of the Govt. approval hinged upon a stipulation that a certain percentage of the weapons construction was allowed to Tanfoglio, with Israel doing the rest.

    Also, the "941" refers to the fact that when these weapons were first conceived, they were made capable of handling two different chamberings. 9x19mm (9mm Luger), and .41 AE (Action Express). The .41 AE was designed to come as close as possible to the .41 Magnum in performance, but with a rimless case for more reliable functioning in a magazine-fed weapon (vs a revolver). I don't know how they were issued to the Israeli Troops, Police, and Mossad, but the Jericho 941's first imported to the US were available in a case with both the 9mm bbl, and the .41AE bbl. They also supplied a heavier recoil spring for use with the .41 bbl.

    The newer models in the US (since 2014, or '15, I think) are now imported by IWI, which is the name of the US import branch (owned by Kahr Arms). I don't know if Israeli Govt. guns are still branded IMI, or if they too are now branded IWI.

    My own Jericho is an Israeli Govt issue 941FS, from the original batch made in the 1990's. The "FS" apparently denotes "Frame Safety", as mine has a thumb safety on the frame, instead of a slide-mounted decocker like most of the US Jericho's and "Baby Eagle" versions. They have started trickling over here in small batches over the last few years, as apparently the Israeli Govt. has either chosen a new sidearm, or simply decided it was time to buy the modern version, which includes a machined rail on the frame for mounting lasers, lights, etc.

    Although I could have bought a brand new IWI version for $50 more than what I gave for my Israeli Govt version, I bought it because #1, It is the "real thing", #2, it has polygonal rifling instead of the cut-rifling of the US models, and #3, the Israeli Govt models are modified to be single action only, instead of DA/SA like the US versions.

    Finally, as for the "Baby Eagle" name that some are marked with (as mentioned earlier in this thread), this just amounts to an advertising gimmick. The Desert Eagle, and the Jericho have almost nothing in common, other than vague styling cues. Importers simply capitalized on the Desert Eagle name because it was, and still is, a much more recognizable name here in the US than Jericho, thanks to portrayal in the media.
    1. Assassinborn
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      How and where did you get an F model? I can't find one for sale anywhere!
    2. seanpmc69
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      You have to keep an eye on gun auction websites, if you're looking for a "real" Israeli FS. Importers were buying small batches of them (50-250 guns, sometimes less), posting them on the auction sites, and selling all of them within a matter of days. I don't know if they are still actively being imported or not, but if not, they should still pop up occasionally as individual sales.

      I'm not 100% sure, but I think you can buy a new IWI version with the frame mounted safety, and steel frame. They still look the same, other than the added light/laser rail milled into the lower dust cover. The Polymer versions however, look considerably different than the steel-framed pistols.
    3. Denim17
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      Nobody cares.
    4. KeltecRFB
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      All the true gun users/collectors care ... :-)
    5. stray952
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      I've got a full sized steel version in .45... if you're interested. Best target gun I've ever had, but slide mounted safety makes it a little impractical.
    6. KeltecRFB
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      I have a Colt Matchcup Para-Ordnance 1st Generation.Of course, I am having FTF with it but it is very accurate when it works.I am trying to troubleshoot it to work;

      1. I have replaced the magazine springs.
      2. Polished the bore and feed ramp - works better but still has its moments.

      Next, I am going to;

      1. To try new magazines
      2. Try different recoil springs.

      If that fails, I will see about replacing the Para-Ordnance back to Colt.I call it my hobby gun but until then, I have purchased an AR and next will be the Glock 20 or 29, or small frame of either depending on my grip.
    7. orze
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      hi im a israely cop so i got a original jericho 941f xD
      mine is preety new too.
    8. madpaddy
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      I have a mini nuke launcher so yeah....
    9. WardenWolf1982
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      @Assassinborn, Gunbroker.com and other online auction sites. I got an IMI 941FL (frame safety, polymer frame). The model designations vary a bit, but they are fairly consistent once you learn to understand the nomenclature.

      F stands for Frame Safety.
      L stands for Light, or a polymer frame.
      S stands for Semi-Compact (3.8" barrel as opposed to 4.4" ).
      P indicates it has the post-2007 rear sight design.

      So PSL is new sights, semi-compact, light. FL is frame safety, light. And a 941PL is the same as the 941FL, just with new sights. Slide-mounted safeties are fairly rare on Jerichos. You just don't see them that much, at least not in the US, so I'm not sure what the designation is for those.
    10. 88conjuror
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      I care a lot :}
    11. grasscid
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      you've made a few mistakes yourself here. Firstly the .41 AE isn't meant to "come close" to .41 Magnum, it's meant to replicate .41 Magnum police loads which are intentionally lower power than the real deal. Secondly, .41 AE isn't rimless but rather has a rebated rim; it has nothing to do with "reliable functioning" other than that the rim is the same size as that of a 9mm allowing simple conversion of a 9mm to .41 AE with just a swap of the barrel, magazine, and recoil spring.

      FS isn't "frame safety", it's the designation for mid-size Jerichos (full size is F, mid-size is FS; more accurately as someone else pointed out in the comments, F alone refers to frame safety and S refers to mid-size).

      And lastly, the name "Baby Eagle" is quite accurate given the background of the gun. It was designed by the same company that made Desert Eagles after all, and it has the same caliber modularity that its big brother has (whereas the DE comes in .357, .44, and .50, the BE comes in 9mm, .40, and .45). Some Jerichos were literally imported as Desert Eagles though, and these are indeed an advertising gimmick. MRI to this day manufactures Jericho clones under the name "Desert Eagle". Jerichos aren't the only ones to have this happen either, there's some M1911s that go under the Desert Eagle name as well.

      And lastly, I have a question; why would you want a SAO frame safety Jericho over a DA/SA one? I could understand if you were talking about the slide safety version because the safety acts as a decocker when engaged preventing you from carrying it cocked and locked, but the frame safety one has no such restriction.
  5. WardenWolf1982
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    Nice to have the Jericho ingame, but did it have to be the slide safety version? The frame safety version looks much better and is much more common in real life (because push safeties suck).
    1. 88conjuror
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      SAFETY
      ALWAYS OFF
    2. SCHEUERMAN2
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      As someone who owns one of these, I can assumre you most of them are slide safety... Sad but true.
  6. SCHEUERMAN2
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    Might want to think about putting "Pistol" in the name, I only found this by searching for Jericho specifically
  7. Kauske
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    This is an awesome mod, but fully decked out, the pistol is 17-20 pounds. Isn't that a bit much for a sidearm?
  8. podyIIIka
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    See you wasteland cowboy...
    1. 88conjuror
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      5 , 4, 3 , 2-1 lets jam
  9. CieloPachirisu
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    One of IMI's rarer and lesser-known pieces, I'm happy to see it here!
  10. Fyvrfg
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    Is there any way to get this gun through console?
    Kleo doesn't seem to have one.
    1. K1LLZ0NE2833
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      Type into console
      "Help Jericho 4"
      And after a moment, a list should come up with something like, "Weap: Jericho 941 (itemid)"
      And then you type in
      "Player.additem (itemid) 1" minus the parentheses
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