So the reason I chose .50 Beowulf is because it seems HIGHLY unlikely the hunting rifle could fire a .50 BMG, but it'd be a bit weird if it was a .50 AE. I went with the .50 Beowulf because there are currently actual hunting weapons utilizing the caliber, even if the in game model is a bit off.
I'm also going to change the .38 to a .38 Super, though I don't know much about it. I really don't think the .380 Auto is... "accurate" for lack of a better word.
I'm leaving the "NATO" part off of the 5.56x45, as it's more of a standard than an exact size. Correct me if I'm wrong.
As for the 5mm.... I really don't know what to choose. I'd say 7.62x51, but there is already the 7.62 from Nuka World. If/When I make a renaming for that bullet, maybe I'll change it to 7.62x51 and change NW's to 7.62x39. (Edit: an optional NW file is available, and standard 5mm is now 7.62x51.)
? A couple of corrections: .45 Auto - The actual ammunition is .45 ACP considering it's commonly used for the Submachine Gun (aka. the Thompson M1928, seriously look it up) and that SMG fires the .45 ACP, not the .45 Auto. If you're aiming for real-world, that's real-world.
.50 Beowulf - "So the reason I chose .50 Beowulf is because it seems HIGHLY unlikely the hunting rifle could fire a .50 BMG" Please explain to me how it's "highly unlikely" when it looks basically exactly the same as a .50 BMG. Look it may not sound or feel the same as a .50 BMG would fire when you fire with that cartridge in-game but that really doesn't mean anything, you should be going by how the bullet looks not how it feels. If you look at the cartridge in game it looks literally nothing like a Beowulf, also observe the picture above, its not even the same width let alone height.
Starting to think this guy has never stepped foot in a gun shop let alone a gun range.
If I were to go back and update this mod, I probably would rename it to .45 ACP. I'm not sure why I didn't in the first place, except maybe that whenever I refer to .45 with a suffix I usually just say .45 Auto rather than spell out ACP. Could just be personal preference.
As for the .50 Beowulf -- I know the in-game model matches .50 BMG. I made that decision as I think it's stupid you could rechamber a .308 to .50 BMG. That's what I meant by "highly unlikely."
If you are so invested, feel free to boot up the Creation Kit! It really only takes a few minutes to make such a simple mod to your liking.
Maybe you're just joking, but your last line there is a bit silly.
Edit: I'm just realizing how old this mod is. I won't give my age, but I was quite young when I made it (re-reading comments where I refer to calibers as "bullet..."). I'm a bit more experienced now, one could say.
The minigun FIres 7.62x51 It says so right there on the Ammo Box and you can clearly See the Size If you drop One bullet and Compare it to the 5.56 Of rifles that do tree times more damage than the minigun LUL Todd Howard Logic some1 take him to a gun range
For a lack of real world counterpart - in current production - for the in game 5mm round, I renamed it to just 5mm Gatling. In game, it's a puny round (has the least damage). My personal ammo renaming is.. .38 Colt (.38 Special seems more accurate as it is currently the most widely used .38 round.) 5.56x45mm 7.62x51mm for the .308 (despite being different rounds, these can and are used interchangeably) 7.62x39mm for the homemade 7.62 round (considering the AK design) .50 BMG (I doubled the damage and reduced magazine size for the .50 caliber mod) 12 Gauge Buckshot (the in game shotguns fire 12 pellets) .44 Magnum .45-70 Govt (name used in New Vegas)
It's very old, but that "puny" round is larger than .308 and is a little smaller than .50 in-game round. The damage part is just a stupid balance/design decision, same as with reduced damage for full auto receivers, and receivers with their effects in general, which I believe was a lazy copy-paste of energy weapon modification (only makes sense for them) instead of implementing a proper separate system for ballistic weapons.
Those are basically the same round.. 308 may have a slightly lower chamber pressure. Usually the battery is going difference is 7.62x51 is normally going to use a boattail slug for better aerodynamics
It is the same exact round. Civies call it 308. Military Peeps like me call it 7.62. I used this ammo extensively while I was in. 240, Minigun, M-14, all use it. I used to snag some and use it in my AR-10
Traditionalfire wrote: What would be more appropriate? Calling it .308 or 7.62x51?
jc9542 wrote: Those are basically the same round.. 308 may have a slightly lower chamber pressure. Usually the battery is going difference is 7.62x51 is normally going to use a boattail slug for better aerodynamics
Traditionalfire wrote: I personally think 7.62x51 "looks" better, so to speak.
DrKevorkian614 wrote: jc9542, actually it is the exact opposite. The .308 has a higher chamber pressure, and both use a boat-tail.
nervod1138 wrote: It is the same exact round. Civies call it 308. Military Peeps like me call it 7.62. I used this ammo extensively while I was in. 240, Minigun, M-14, all use it. I used to snag some and use it in my AR-10
The.308 and the 7.62x51 NATO are NOT the same round. I reload both rounds. The cases are slightly different. On the 7.62x51 NATO, case wall is thicker. 7.62x51 NATO also uses the Berdan Primer and will not seat a regular primer without first deburring the primer pocket. And because of the Berdan primer, you must drill out the spark holes to use a de-capping die when reloading (I forgot and broke a decapping pin).
With that, the differences are sligtht enough that either round can be used in weapons chambered for the other. However, the .308 has higher chamber pressures (62,000 vs 50,000 psi) and should not be fired in older 7.62x51 weapons (if any 7.62.x51 weapon at all). And remember that some manufactures cut it close on the headspace in the .308 round and this may cause a problem with extracting spent cartridges during auto or semi-auto fire in rifles chambered for 7.62x51 NATO .
And the 5.56x45 is a NATO round. It is designed specifically to be interchangeable with NATO ally weapons. So it is a NATO qualifying round. So are the 7.62x51, 9mm Parabellum, and the .50 BMG NATO rounds.
the 5mm round in game is probably the 5mm x 35mm SMc, a round developed for low recoil and high power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_mm/35_SMc i think thats the most realistic name for the round
5mm denial much? I guess I shouldn't ask those Hitler questions then. But, I think you need to look at 5mm from the orignial game, not the Bethesda ones where 3d meshes a$$ed everything up and made 5mm a little bit smaller than a 50 bmg, although I think the shell mesh from 5mm in 3 and NV was slightly smaller than the 5.56 so the a$$ed it up in 4. If anything it looks like a weatherby magnum like you said ealier, I just saw the round and thought it looked simmilar, then I saw you said the same. If you consider the 5mm a smaller round than the 5.56 (like real rounds with such measurements) then XM214 Microgun is the closest real world counterpart to fallout's minigun since it is chambered in 5.56. In the end I'll say the 5mm round from the original games may have been based on a real cartridge, and in the Bethesda era they kept the round, but changed the mesh to suit themselves.
idk who you are replying too, VladamirPoutine, but i hope youre just being dumb.
there are several types of 5mm ammo. they are mostly oddball rounds except for 22(long/short/mag), 223/556, 5.7, and a few others.
5mm simply means the size of the bullet. and to be honest that is inaccurate as the in game case is much larger than the 308 a minigun should shoot.
in nv 5mm ammo was pretty much the same as 5.56, thats why it was used in the carbine rifles. that being said, if the minigun is using 5mm ammo, then its a micro gun which uses 5.56. i really doubt the minigun and NV version of an m4 is using gopher getters.
I'd like to just say that the .50 BMG according to me makes sense if you take the actual model into consideration. It's just too big for being a .50 Beowulf, I mean take a look at Mitsurugi2424's provided screenshot and that the Beowulf's shape isn't correct. Neither should it be a .50 AE round. I'm saying this because you should take the models of the game into consideration, that is all, just so that you can reflect on your choice of name.
Anyhow, the 5mm is indeed no 5mm, we all know that judging again by the model, but what it should be called, I don't know. Like others stated already in a way, fallout is a game and games isn't that accurate many times when it comes to guns and ammunition.
Finally I'd like to provide a picture which is great for comparing ammuniton, especially for their sizes.
Yeah seriously, I have no idea. Trying to name something that was made up for a game is hard. Regarding the .460 weatherby magnum round, I'm not sure. A minigun firing Magnum rounds? But hell, it's a game and I'm not that much of a gun nut. I just like guns and have an interest in them. You seem to know more than me so I think your opinion is more valuable.
EDIT: Missed your edit. It kind of looks like the 7,62x51, but slightly bigger. Again, difficult to say regarding that it's a made-up round (fallout). Tbh I'd settle for that. All kinds of 7,62mm rounds are fairly common so it makes sense I guess. At least if we go back before everyone started to use different 5,56mm rounds.
well, im just going off how the bullet looks, lol. i threw some logic out the window for this one(to spare the headache)
i picked the 460 cause the bullet its self looks more like the one the minigun was firing, and i know something like that could pretty easily be changed fro ma round nose to a more pointed bullet.
but, i do agree, the made up 5mm round, does just look like a bigger version of the other round with a slightly more rounded bullet.
the more i look at it the more the 556, 308, and 50bmg all look like the same round, just made bigger in game lol
if you really research it, the gun we have in game is a "micro gun". a minigun that fires the 5.56. this is based on size and weight. the real life minigun, is a big bigger, and would fire the 308 round.
this is off topic, but what kills me more than the random bullets is all the errors in damage. i know a swarm of idiots will flock and say "but it ballances muh gaem". but, since damage mods are optional, those people can and should just go back to their game and ignore damage reballance mods. the rest of us, that like at least semi accurate portrayal, know that some guns are just better than others. thats why weapons we use in the field are constantly evolving and changing.
simply put, a minigun SHOULD dice your s#*! up. any automatic variant of any gun SHOULD do the same base damage as its semi auto counterpart, and a rifle chambered in 45acp should NOT do the same damage as one fired in 5.56.
in real life guns are OP, colt and those other manufacturers should look into rebalancing those things. But normally getting hit by a 50 in the shoulder should rip your arm off, a 45 to the shoulder should make using that arm NEARLY impossible to use with the tissue trauma (some tough SOBs might actually be able to brush off the PAIN) you can forget shooting straight. Don't forget after getting hit by a burst from a minigun you'll be "pink mist" as they say
guns arent so much OP as they are simply effective. they are designed to do a thing. and they do that thing very well. guns in games are UP tbh. but i sort of understand it. games wouldnt be fun if they were that hyper realistic, lol. In a truly realistic shooter, you’d get shot once, then laid up for six months. in fallout i guess you could do it like you served jail time in skyrim, but in most games it would have to be game over if you took anything but a chest shot(assuming armor).
back to RL. while youd still need a hospital, getting shot with smaller calibers(pistol calibers) isnt nearly as incapacitating as some think. the general consensus is that people shot with handguns tend to runaway, while people shot with long guns DRT. aslong as nothing vital is hit, you could in theory "walk off" a pistol caliber gunshot and take yourself to a hospital, while a rifle round would almost certainly do muck more potentially incapacitating damage even if it hit nothing vital.
research this a little before you just tell me im wrong. this is why alot of shootouts with handguns irl arent over instantly, and why military and some law enforcement use long guns and higher velocity rounds primarily in direct assault tasks and situations.
and yes, a minigun would in fact be a very bad day. as it has been use to as far back as Vietnam to to dispatch enemies hiding in thick brush and even cuts down thick trees foliage in its way. thats certainly not 8 Dmg per shot :p
I was very hesitant to rename the .50 to the .50 Beowulf in the latest update, because I do know how different the shapes are. But can you really imagine a .50 BMG fitting into the Hunting Rifle? It just doesn't make sense, so I went with the Beowulf.
click here for simple 50bmg hunting rifle pic there are hunting rifles that shoot it. more popular/less expensive alternatives are bolt action with no magazine as well as a few bolt action variants used by military. berretts are the toys people with too much money buy to show off lol.
50 beowulf looks kinda dumb to me, and wouldnt have near the ballistics, velocity, penetration, or distance of a 50bmg, and so would be less practical to snipe with than the 50bmg
Anyway I just wanted to reply regarding the .50 hunting rifle. First thing I'd like to say is that it's a game and that the weapon itself changes a lot if you change the stock into the sniper stock or whatever it's called. After that is done, it resembles something more of a traditional high-powered sniper rifle. So to me judging by that new look, the .50 BMG doesn't seem that strange. I wouldn't pay much attention to the name "Hunting Rifle" really unless it implies the caliber but as far as I know, that's not a thing. I'll provide a link to the .50 BMG wiki. There's a lot of information about that round there and there's also a list for weapons that use it in addition to the more famous M2 Browning MG and Barretts.
Based of the 5mm as a number it would most likely be a .204 Ruger, but the model used is far to large to be a 5mm. It is probably most like an 8mm Mauser.
As far as the .50 the hunting rifle would fire a .50BMG. The "hunting rifle" aspect, as far as I'm concerned, describes the traditional wood furniture.
the 5mm fallout round is not the 5.7 the 5.7 round is actually very similar in appearace to the 5.56, only with a shorter casing. it is actually in between the .308 and .50cal, but closer to the .50 cal
The 5mm looks more like the size and shape of .357 Weatherby or 9x57mm Mauser when you look at it between the .50 and the .308. It's obviously not 5mm in any way.
The .44 and .38 also use identical, but scaled, versions of the 10mm/.45 rounds. They're definitely not straight walled rimmed revolver cartridges. There aren't even any revolvers that use the .38 but people keep wanting to call it .38 Special.
chances are the 5mm round in fallout is based on the real world 5mm Remington Rimfire Magnum. Although as far as I am aware the cartrige was only used in bolt action rifles , and it was discontinued (so maybe not the round we're looking for). It's size is basically the same as Ruger .204, a round that I'm mostly sure is still made today.
no, it is a made up round just for fallout. its not a rime fire round either. Beth hasnt ever been all that worried about little stuff like this being accurate. thats why we had a .50cal smg(12.7mm smg).
if Beth cared about accurate ammo names, values, and what chambered what, we wouldnt have combat rifle chambered in 45acp(fed through 5.56 mags) doing the same damage as assault rifles chambered in 5.56. though it was a nice touch to create an ak ammo just for the nuka world aks.
also, there are "hunting rifles" that shoot the 50 bmg, and even bigger caliber rounds. the BMG stands for Browning Machine Gun, as it was originally designed for the Browning Machine Gun, and then adapted for other applications later. this round has been around since 1910, so its nothing new, and certainly has been in hunting rifle applications in the past. 50bmg hunting rifle
also also, you are better off calling the 5mm ammo 300winmag .460 weatherby magnum. simply because its size is closer to what is seen in the pictures. see pic
for all intents and purposes the 7.62x51 = 308. identical rounds on the outside, but the nato 308 tends to have lower pressures than some of the Winchester hunting loads.
the minigun tends to fire 308/7.62x51, but as stated and illustrated, that round is not in any way a 7.62 caliber bullet.
the 7.62 AK round(7.62x39) was actually a scaled down 7.62x54r round when they replaced rifle like the nagant with the sks and then the ak.
also also also(lulz), the 38 super see pic is a rimmed cartridge used in 1911(and other magazine fed variants) variants of some hand guns. the 38 round is a rim fired round that can be shot out of a 357 magnum, but not the other way way around due to the higher velocity/pressure/etc.
i dont mean to be rude, but this is why people dont mess with video game calibers.. game developers tend not to give a s#*! about real life rounds and how close the video game counterparts accurately are, and people like me, leave long messages when simple google searches and a little reading are all thats required to better name these things.
ultimately, it is your mod(i had no way to respond to your sticky post, so i posted here), and if you want to change all the rounds to completely inaccurate, obscure, late 1800/early 1900 rounds from the UK, just to troll. you could, lol. but i post all this in the off chance you are simply trying to make all these as accurate as possible
It would probably just be easier to fix the world model for the 5mm, so that it actually looks like it'd be a 5mm.
Fallout (all the way back to Interplay) has always just been lazy/bad with ammunition and their mix of real and made up calibers always makes for very stupid things. Look at the .32 from FO3.
Yes, I'm trying to be as accurate as possible, and the only ammo types that are giving me issue are .38, .50, and the 5mm... I know I can't be exactly precise, and I don't have infinite knowledge about this, but I'm just trying to make it more realistic... Should I just leave the 5mm as the 5mm? I mean, the others do have real world counterparts, but this one doesn't....
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I went with the .50 Beowulf because there are currently actual hunting weapons utilizing the caliber, even if the in game model is a bit off.
I'm also going to change the .38 to a .38 Super, though I don't know much about it. I really don't think the .380 Auto is... "accurate" for lack of a better word.
I'm leaving the "NATO" part off of the 5.56x45, as it's more of a standard than an exact size. Correct me if I'm wrong.
As for the 5mm.... I really don't know what to choose. I'd say 7.62x51, but there is already the 7.62 from Nuka World. If/When I make a renaming for that bullet, maybe I'll change it to 7.62x51 and change NW's to 7.62x39. (Edit: an optional NW file is available, and standard 5mm is now 7.62x51.)
Thanks so much for the feedback, guys and girls!
A couple of corrections:
.45 Auto - The actual ammunition is .45 ACP considering it's commonly used for the Submachine Gun (aka. the Thompson M1928, seriously look it up) and that SMG fires the .45 ACP, not the .45 Auto. If you're aiming for real-world, that's real-world.
.50 Beowulf - "So the reason I chose .50 Beowulf is because it seems HIGHLY unlikely the hunting rifle could fire a .50 BMG" Please explain to me how it's "highly unlikely" when it looks basically exactly the same as a .50 BMG. Look it may not sound or feel the same as a .50 BMG would fire when you fire with that cartridge in-game but that really doesn't mean anything, you should be going by how the bullet looks not how it feels. If you look at the cartridge in game it looks literally nothing like a Beowulf, also observe the picture above, its not even the same width let alone height.
Starting to think this guy has never stepped foot in a gun shop let alone a gun range.
If I were to go back and update this mod, I probably would rename it to .45 ACP. I'm not sure why I didn't in the first place, except maybe that whenever I refer to .45 with a suffix I usually just say .45 Auto rather than spell out ACP. Could just be personal preference.
As for the .50 Beowulf -- I know the in-game model matches .50 BMG. I made that decision as I think it's stupid you could rechamber a .308 to .50 BMG. That's what I meant by "highly unlikely."
If you are so invested, feel free to boot up the Creation Kit! It really only takes a few minutes to make such a simple mod to your liking.
Maybe you're just joking, but your last line there is a bit silly.
Edit: I'm just realizing how old this mod is. I won't give my age, but I was quite young when I made it (re-reading comments where I refer to calibers as "bullet..."). I'm a bit more experienced now, one could say.
My personal ammo renaming is..
.38 Colt (.38 Special seems more accurate as it is currently the most widely used .38 round.)
5.56x45mm
7.62x51mm for the .308 (despite being different rounds, these can and are used interchangeably)
7.62x39mm for the homemade 7.62 round (considering the AK design)
.50 BMG (I doubled the damage and reduced magazine size for the .50 caliber mod)
12 Gauge Buckshot (the in game shotguns fire 12 pellets)
.44 Magnum
.45-70 Govt (name used in New Vegas)
The.308 and the 7.62x51 NATO are NOT the same round. I reload both rounds. The cases are slightly different. On the 7.62x51 NATO, case wall is thicker. 7.62x51 NATO also uses the Berdan Primer and will not seat a regular primer without first deburring the primer pocket. And because of the Berdan primer, you must drill out the spark holes to use a de-capping die when reloading (I forgot and broke a decapping pin).
With that, the differences are sligtht enough that either round can be used in weapons chambered for the other. However, the .308 has higher chamber pressures (62,000 vs 50,000 psi) and should not be fired in older 7.62x51 weapons (if any 7.62.x51 weapon at all). And remember that some manufactures cut it close on the headspace in the .308 round and this may cause a problem with extracting spent cartridges during auto or semi-auto fire in rifles chambered for 7.62x51 NATO .
And the 5.56x45 is a NATO round. It is designed specifically to be interchangeable with NATO ally weapons. So it is a NATO qualifying round. So are the 7.62x51, 9mm Parabellum, and the .50 BMG NATO rounds.
Trivia question. What does the BMG stand for?
And finally, the 5mm is a real round. It was a rimfire cartridge which was designed by Remington for a couple rifles in the late 1960's. see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5mm_Remington_Rimfire_Magnum.
Edit. The bullet in a .38 Special round is 9.1mm. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38
By the way, a 5mm isn't really even a bullet.... there are some close rounds, but no real-world comparable bullet.
I'm not 'that' stupid
But, I think you need to look at 5mm from the orignial game, not the Bethesda ones where 3d meshes a$$ed everything up and made 5mm a little bit smaller than a 50 bmg, although I think the shell mesh from 5mm in 3 and NV was slightly smaller than the 5.56 so the a$$ed it up in 4. If anything it looks like a weatherby magnum like you said ealier, I just saw the round and thought it looked simmilar, then I saw you said the same.
If you consider the 5mm a smaller round than the 5.56 (like real rounds with such measurements) then XM214 Microgun is the closest real world counterpart to fallout's minigun since it is chambered in 5.56.
In the end I'll say the 5mm round from the original games may have been based on a real cartridge, and in the Bethesda era they kept the round, but changed the mesh to suit themselves.
there are several types of 5mm ammo. they are mostly oddball rounds except for 22(long/short/mag), 223/556, 5.7, and a few others.
5mm simply means the size of the bullet. and to be honest that is inaccurate as the in game case is much larger than the 308 a minigun should shoot.
in nv 5mm ammo was pretty much the same as 5.56, thats why it was used in the carbine rifles. that being said, if the minigun is using 5mm ammo, then its a micro gun which uses 5.56. i really doubt the minigun and NV version of an m4 is using gopher getters.
Anyhow, the 5mm is indeed no 5mm, we all know that judging again by the model, but what it should be called, I don't know.
Like others stated already in a way, fallout is a game and games isn't that accurate many times when it comes to guns and ammunition.
Finally I'd like to provide a picture which is great for comparing ammuniton, especially for their sizes.
Mitsurugi2424's screenshot
Ammunition comparison
What do you think, close enough? lol
EDIT: Missed your edit. It kind of looks like the 7,62x51, but slightly bigger. Again, difficult to say regarding that it's a made-up round (fallout). Tbh I'd settle for that. All kinds of 7,62mm rounds are fairly common so it makes sense I guess. At least if we go back before everyone started to use different 5,56mm rounds.
i picked the 460 cause the bullet its self looks more like the one the minigun was firing, and i know something like that could pretty easily be changed fro ma round nose to a more pointed bullet.
but, i do agree, the made up 5mm round, does just look like a bigger version of the other round with a slightly more rounded bullet.
the more i look at it the more the 556, 308, and 50bmg all look like the same round, just made bigger in game lol
if you really research it, the gun we have in game is a "micro gun". a minigun that fires the 5.56. this is based on size and weight.
the real life minigun, is a big bigger, and would fire the 308 round.
this is off topic, but what kills me more than the random bullets is all the errors in damage. i know a swarm of idiots will flock and say "but it ballances muh gaem". but, since damage mods are optional, those people can and should just go back to their game and ignore damage reballance mods. the rest of us, that like at least semi accurate portrayal, know that some guns are just better than others. thats why weapons we use in the field are constantly evolving and changing.
simply put, a minigun SHOULD dice your s#*! up. any automatic variant of any gun SHOULD do the same base damage as its semi auto counterpart, and a rifle chambered in 45acp should NOT do the same damage as one fired in 5.56.
But normally getting hit by a 50 in the shoulder should rip your arm off, a 45 to the shoulder should make using that arm NEARLY impossible to use with the tissue trauma (some tough SOBs might actually be able to brush off the PAIN) you can forget shooting straight. Don't forget after getting hit by a burst from a minigun you'll be "pink mist" as they say
back to RL. while youd still need a hospital, getting shot with smaller calibers(pistol calibers) isnt nearly as incapacitating as some think. the general consensus is that people shot with handguns tend to runaway, while people shot with long guns DRT. aslong as nothing vital is hit, you could in theory "walk off" a pistol caliber gunshot and take yourself to a hospital, while a rifle round would almost certainly do muck more potentially incapacitating damage even if it hit nothing vital.
research this a little before you just tell me im wrong. this is why alot of shootouts with handguns irl arent over instantly, and why military and some law enforcement use long guns and higher velocity rounds primarily in direct assault tasks and situations.
and yes, a minigun would in fact be a very bad day. as it has been use to as far back as Vietnam to to dispatch enemies hiding in thick brush and even cuts down thick trees foliage in its way. thats certainly not 8 Dmg per shot :p
I was very hesitant to rename the .50 to the .50 Beowulf in the latest update, because I do know how different the shapes are.
But can you really imagine a .50 BMG fitting into the Hunting Rifle? It just doesn't make sense, so I went with the Beowulf.
50 beowulf looks kinda dumb to me, and wouldnt have near the ballistics, velocity, penetration, or distance of a 50bmg, and so would be less practical to snipe with than the 50bmg
Anyway I just wanted to reply regarding the .50 hunting rifle. First thing I'd like to say is that it's a game and that the weapon itself changes a lot if you change the stock into the sniper stock or whatever it's called. After that is done, it resembles something more of a traditional high-powered sniper rifle. So to me judging by that new look, the .50 BMG doesn't seem that strange. I wouldn't pay much attention to the name "Hunting Rifle" really unless it implies the caliber but as far as I know, that's not a thing. I'll provide a link to the .50 BMG wiki. There's a lot of information about that round there and there's also a list for weapons that use it in addition to the more famous M2 Browning MG and Barretts.
.50 BMG Wikipedia
EDIT: With the Sniper Stock I mean that last tier of the stocks available for the hunting rifle.
As far as the .50 the hunting rifle would fire a .50BMG. The "hunting rifle" aspect, as far as I'm concerned, describes the traditional wood furniture.
the 5.7 round is actually very similar in appearace to the 5.56, only with a shorter casing.
it is actually in between the .308 and .50cal, but closer to the .50 cal
Proof
The .44 and .38 also use identical, but scaled, versions of the 10mm/.45 rounds. They're definitely not straight walled rimmed revolver cartridges. There aren't even any revolvers that use the .38 but people keep wanting to call it .38 Special.
its not a rime fire round either.
Beth hasnt ever been all that worried about little stuff like this being accurate.
thats why we had a .50cal smg(12.7mm smg).
if Beth cared about accurate ammo names, values, and what chambered what, we wouldnt have combat rifle chambered in 45acp(fed through 5.56 mags) doing the same damage as assault rifles chambered in 5.56.
though it was a nice touch to create an ak ammo just for the nuka world aks.
also, there are "hunting rifles" that shoot the 50 bmg, and even bigger caliber rounds. the BMG stands for Browning Machine Gun, as it was originally designed for the Browning Machine Gun, and then adapted for other applications later. this round has been around since 1910, so its nothing new, and certainly has been in hunting rifle applications in the past. 50bmg hunting rifle
also also, you are better off calling the 5mm ammo
300winmag.460 weatherby magnum. simply because its size is closer to what is seen in the pictures. see picfor all intents and purposes the 7.62x51 = 308. identical rounds on the outside, but the nato 308 tends to have lower pressures than some of the Winchester hunting loads.
the minigun tends to fire 308/7.62x51, but as stated and illustrated, that round is not in any way a 7.62 caliber bullet.
the 7.62 AK round(7.62x39) was actually a scaled down 7.62x54r round when they replaced rifle like the nagant with the sks and then the ak.
also also also(lulz), the 38 super see pic is a rimmed cartridge used in 1911(and other magazine fed variants) variants of some hand guns. the 38 round is a rim fired round that can be shot out of a 357 magnum, but not the other way way around due to the higher velocity/pressure/etc.
i dont mean to be rude, but this is why people dont mess with video game calibers.. game developers tend not to give a s#*! about real life rounds and how close the video game counterparts accurately are, and people like me, leave long messages when simple google searches and a little reading are all thats required to better name these things.
ultimately, it is your mod(i had no way to respond to your sticky post, so i posted here), and if you want to change all the rounds to completely inaccurate, obscure, late 1800/early 1900 rounds from the UK, just to troll. you could, lol. but i post all this in the off chance you are simply trying to make all these as accurate as possible
Fallout (all the way back to Interplay) has always just been lazy/bad with ammunition and their mix of real and made up calibers always makes for very stupid things. Look at the .32 from FO3.
Yes, I'm trying to be as accurate as possible, and the only ammo types that are giving me issue are .38, .50, and the 5mm...
I know I can't be exactly precise, and I don't have infinite knowledge about this, but I'm just trying to make it more realistic... Should I just leave the 5mm as the 5mm? I mean, the others do have real world counterparts, but this one doesn't....