Hi everyone, let me clearify some stuff about this mod, wishing that especially the creator can see my comment and reply me in order to better comprension of the idea of his mod.
So, the idea is GREAT because it gives to the crippled dynamic of the game some proper realistic effects which is definitly appreciable.
The bad side of this tho is the creator used a already existent interior cell (Agatha's House) to create the reference for the creatures script. In order to do that, he had to rewrite all the reference for the cell, with the consequence of reorder and reattached all the quest reference related to Agatha's House.
It would be easier to create a new cell? (my final question)
I gave it a try and it perfectly works. I hope the creator can give a feedback for my comment which has to be taken just as a suggestion to step up instead of a free criticism.
This mod is an absolute mess. It's full of dirty edits, weird/useless edits, and has leftover testing crap that screws up Agatha, her house and quests. Does not affect NPC's either. Likely to cause bugs without cleaning, but still not really worth it after. Recommend to avoid. >:/
Seconding avoiding this mod. There's a lot of really weird changes in it, one of which made my super-mutants(But not their armor??) completely invisible.
Cripple the arms, and their aim goes way off. Cripple the head to reduce their aim by half blinding them. Cripple the torso, and their strength and endurance drop sharply
I downloaded the 2.1b version only to realize it's not my cup of tea. I uninstalled it (I use NMM.) but the effects are still there. The negative stats when crippled, how quickly I get crippled, and the very slow limping.
I've re-installed FO3 twice trying to get rid of this but with no success. When I uninstalled FO3 the second time, I made sure I deleted every file associated with FO3 after I uninstalled it, except for NMM and the Registry File. So I'm kind of at a loss here. I even made sure it wasn't in the NMM directories either.
So, could this have something to do with a file that I've missed or would this possibly require me to do some editing with the G.E.C.K.?
Kyd462's post is unfortunately correct, I've had a look at this mod in Fo3edit and I can't find anything that would apply the cripple effects to NPCs, I'd been using this for years and never noticed, thankfully the effects on your player character work fully as advertised.
Also as people have noticed, the latest beta version breaks Agatha's house, ONLY USE 2.0.
Over time it may be possible that some stats may behave oddly, I had, at one point reached 899 carryweight.
Clean saving put my carryweight back to 170, and yes, I had to get rid of a lot of stuff in the inventory.
Whether this mod is causing it or in conjunction with something else, is under investigation, but a refresh every once in awhile may be in order
Load a saved game with NO MODS to see if any oddness happens, I was testing for something else thought my carryweight might be a bit high but did not really find out until all mods were unchecked traced it to this one.
Also, in FO3Edit, in the latest version, there are a whole list of creatures listed. Since they have nothing to do with what this mod does, they probably can be pruned from the mod.
Can anybody else confirms this, I cant enter Agatha's shack with this mod activated and from what I checked in the FO3edit there are a number of reference pointing towards the shack and writen as ACE test chamber. I think echanicalPirate forgot to delete those entries lol. But really appreciated if anybody else can confirm this
"Hurm anyone had this problem before? My character leg was already crippled, then when the torso got crippled as well the health suddenly goes up almost to full again
Im using ver 2.1b with Pain Incarnate Effects
Edit: Nevermind, it's just a one time deal apparently. dont know why"
It has something to do with the game recalculating Health when Endurance changes I think.
You can recreate the 'error' by the following:
1- Make sure your Torso is NOT crippled 2- Open the console and damage your Health to something really low (like 20 or so hit points) 3- Close the console, reopen the console, and cripple your Torso. 4- Health should jump back up quite a bit.
I can recreate this error every time using no other mods but this one (or using my CrippledLimbs mod and no other).
** EDIT: It's also possible using the default (not modded) radiation damage in the game. Repeat the steps above, but instead of cripping your torso, jack your RadiationRads up to like 800. Your Health will increase.
Is there any way to fix this? With this mod or without it. This bug really bugged me.
And why "-X Endurance" doesn't affected on my maximum HP?
Great in concept but my crippled limbs appear to slowly heal themselves. I don't know if it's the game doing that or the mod. If it's the mod it would seem to totally undermine what you're trying to achieve.
Edit: It's the game. Stimpaks heal crippled limbs slightly. Mod works well, thanks for making it.
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Hi everyone, let me clearify some stuff about this mod, wishing that especially the creator can see my comment and reply me in order to better comprension of the idea of his mod.
So, the idea is GREAT because it gives to the crippled dynamic of the game some proper realistic effects which is definitly appreciable.
The bad side of this tho is the creator used a already existent interior cell (Agatha's House) to create the reference for the creatures script. In order to do that, he had to rewrite all the reference for the cell, with the consequence of reorder and reattached all the quest reference related to Agatha's House.
It would be easier to create a new cell? (my final question)
I gave it a try and it perfectly works.
I hope the creator can give a feedback for my comment which has to be taken just as a suggestion to step up instead of a free criticism.
Regards
At least the crippled leg speed is slower than default.
half blinding them. Cripple the torso, and their strength and endurance drop sharply
Aren't you already able to do this in the game?
I downloaded the 2.1b version only to realize it's not my cup of tea. I uninstalled it (I use NMM.) but the effects are still there. The negative stats when crippled, how quickly I get crippled, and the very slow limping.
I've re-installed FO3 twice trying to get rid of this but with no success. When I uninstalled FO3 the second time, I made sure I deleted every file associated with FO3 after I uninstalled it, except for NMM and the Registry File. So I'm kind of at a loss here. I even made sure it wasn't in the NMM directories either.
So, could this have something to do with a file that I've missed or would this possibly require me to do some editing with the G.E.C.K.?
Also as people have noticed, the latest beta version breaks Agatha's house, ONLY USE 2.0.
Over time it may be possible that some stats may behave oddly, I had, at one point reached 899 carryweight.
Clean saving put my carryweight back to 170, and yes, I had to get rid of a lot of stuff in the inventory.
Whether this mod is causing it or in conjunction with something else, is under investigation, but a refresh every once in awhile may be in order
Load a saved game with NO MODS to see if any oddness happens, I was testing for something else thought my carryweight might be a bit high but did not really find out until all mods were unchecked traced it to this one.
Also, in FO3Edit, in the latest version, there are a whole list of creatures listed. Since they have nothing to do with what this mod does, they probably can be pruned from the mod.
Is there any way to fix this? With this mod or without it. This bug really bugged me.
And why "-X Endurance" doesn't affected on my maximum HP?
Edit: It's the game. Stimpaks heal crippled limbs slightly. Mod works well, thanks for making it.
edit: Was getting the Agatha's House glitch with her House Interior. Did a clean save and rolled back to version 2.0 and problem is corrected.