As of the latest update, Faithful 3D Animals permits other mods and modifications via loose files in the texture folder to override animal textures. To get started in texture pack making, you can download the Texture maker's pack under miscellaneous files. It contains instructions and UV maps. To have the textures replace the originals, they must be named as specified in the READ ME file.
The latest update also introduces Realistic Wagon horse presets, which will be updated with more variants over time. Especially usefully if you do not wish to try to recolour the one included in the main mod but still wish for a personalised steed!
Does the bug relate to textures, animations, and models? Are you sure you're using the right mod version? Report it asap!
The horse from the realistic wagon addon is tilted/leaning! You are using an old version of realistic wagons, make sure you update it!
Does the bug cause something unexpected like loading issues or blacked-out screens? This is likely from a conflict between two or multiple mods, and no. Removing F3DA does not fix other mods trying to do something 'silly/stupid' with sprites and being unable to handle 3D models because of it. I cannot fix other people's mods for them but the least we can do is find the conflicting mods.
How do I isolate the problem mods? Keep F3DA in your mod list, and start reducing the number of mods until you are left with just the mods that break your game, those mods conflict. Report the conflict to the relevant modders (including me, so I can warn users of conflicts).
But removing F3DA fixed my game! No, it didn't. You just took the canary out of the coal mine. The mod that's unable to handle 3D models is still out there in your modlist, waiting to conflict with any other future 3D replacement mod.
And lastly, please share a list of all your mods in their load order or even saves so we can try to replicate your problem. =P
The animals work. But the Camel does not. I put the Camel_00 texture file in the texture folder with the others but the camel does not work for some reason.
Awesome Pack - But.. With Dreams new 1.0v the Horse Pack breaks the Load File button ! - only the stallion mod can be on and it wont break the Loading of a saved game. All other horses will make the Load File not work; sadly spent 2 hours of troubleshooting before figuring this out. haha.
F3DA horse packs work perfectly with realistic wagon, there is some other mod causing an issue that is being displayed by the horse pack acting up, like a canary in the coal mine. The horse pack is as minimalist and nonintrusive as mods go in daggerfall, it only gives a 3D image to sprites and this is a fairly automated process by DFU. Some other mod is causing an issue and you have to report it to the right mod author. I cannot fix other people's mods.
Just fyi - im not the only person having this issue with the horse pack - Also when i just turn on One of those 5 Horses with all other mods off, I am unable to load any saved file ; So all signs point to this Mod as the issue.
Every single person there did not provide their mod list, including you. Neither did they try to isolate which mod combinations break the horse pack. Again, the horse pack does NOTHING but replace spites with 3D models, if some mods try to do something silly with the sprites, they break 3D animals. The issue is not 3D animals, but that mod. Without knowing which mod combination is the root of the problem, NOTHING can be fixed and reports here are futile, especially as I cannot fix other's people's mods for them.
Think critically for a moment. 3D mods in Daggerfall are no different from 2D texture replacements. Do 2D texture replacements cause save issues? No, they don't. They're some of the most dumb down easy mods to make as DFU automates the replacement process. How would you even go about fixing a 'this mod causes save issues' if all your mod does is name a 3D object identically to a sprite and bundle it up in a pack? You can't!
FOR REAL, just give me your mod list for once. And that goes for everyone trying to report bugs.
All good mate; With a new save file and Only the horse pack with Dream 1.0, i am able to save and load; as soon as i put my list of mods back in; my game will work and save, but the moment i go to load with the 35 mods i have, it will not until i turn Off the horse pack. (Also after saving with all mods On, even disabling EVERYTHING and turning on 1 horse 3d mod the game will not load, weird). Don't know which mod might have an overwrite in the save file or doing something goofy, Oh well, not a big deal, keep doing what you do, cheerz.
I ended up deleting all the horse presets except for the Daggerfall saddle one, which let me load my save. I think all the horse presets just conflict with each other? Idk I just download s#*! and watch people fumble in the comments.
I feel your pain @FireFlyness Also, these ppl go to Dream 1st to tell me the Load is not working Im not that far from locking the discussion and bug reports on all my mods, as there are no real bugs to report after all those yeas and discussion is usually getting crazy as well. Cheers to the exceptions!! Its draining.
I have the same issue. After a harrowing hour of restarting DFU enabling and disabling mods, it seems that the horse packs conflict with each other. I understand from @FireFlyness that that shouldn't happen? As I understand we should be able to load saves with all the replaces enabled? Because that seems to not be happening. As long as only one horse pack is enabled, the game loads, but if any more than one is enabled, it wont load
I'd be more than happy to provide a mod list. How can I get it? I saw someone on a forum post a generated text file, but I can't find how to do that.
I had the same issue, and it looks like you need to only enable ONE horse from the horse pack mod. Having more than one causes a problem loading, because (I'm guessing) the game doesn't know which horse its supposed to overwrite the default with. As soon as I picked one and disabled the rest, I was able to load the game just fine. So (ime) this isn't the mod causing any issues, its your configuration of the mod contents.
hey can you please make the first person horse use the 3d horse model, i would love more 3d models in this game and am happy to donate if you have paypal or patreon
sorry your mod is fine, it's john doom's mod that's the issue. confused since he has 3d mods too. i really like these 3d animals and hope you make more 3d models
Collisions were a mistake for 3D people because it makes some places hard to pass :( It's fun climbing horses and camels, but some locatiosns would become very difficult to traverse as they turn from set pieces into obstacle courses. Especially hammerfell as it has a much larger density of animals in alleys.
Note: "F3DA-RW Horse preset pack > f3da-rw stallion" Make sure to Change it's mod load order to LOWER than Faithful 3D Animals so it isnt overriden by the default 3D horse.
Very cool mod and really appreciate the mod author but i'm running a heavily modded game and my FPS in Abibon-Gora went from 100 almost constant dropped to around 60 with this installed.
Really cool mod though if the visuals are more important to you than the frames.
Hammerfell is known to have a lot of animals, so it's going to be a bit more noticeable with a heavily modded game. There's probably something I can do about it to ease the load, I'll keep it in mind when I return to this mod's revamp.
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To get started in texture pack making, you can download the Texture maker's pack under miscellaneous files. It contains instructions and UV maps.
To have the textures replace the originals, they must be named as specified in the READ ME file.
The latest update also introduces Realistic Wagon horse presets, which will be updated with more variants over time. Especially usefully if you do not wish to try to recolour the one included in the main mod but still wish for a personalised steed!
Does the bug relate to textures, animations, and models? Are you sure you're using the right mod version?
Report it asap!
The horse from the realistic wagon addon is tilted/leaning!
You are using an old version of realistic wagons, make sure you update it!
Does the bug cause something unexpected like loading issues or blacked-out screens?
This is likely from a conflict between two or multiple mods, and no. Removing F3DA does not fix other mods trying to do something 'silly/stupid' with sprites and being unable to handle 3D models because of it. I cannot fix other people's mods for them but the least we can do is find the conflicting mods.
How do I isolate the problem mods?
Keep F3DA in your mod list, and start reducing the number of mods until you are left with just the mods that break your game, those mods conflict.
Report the conflict to the relevant modders (including me, so I can warn users of conflicts).
But removing F3DA fixed my game!
No, it didn't. You just took the canary out of the coal mine. The mod that's unable to handle 3D models is still out there in your modlist, waiting to conflict with any other future 3D replacement mod.
And lastly, please share a list of all your mods in their load order or even saves so we can try to replicate your problem. =P
The horse pack is as minimalist and nonintrusive as mods go in daggerfall, it only gives a 3D image to sprites and this is a fairly automated process by DFU. Some other mod is causing an issue and you have to report it to the right mod author.
I cannot fix other people's mods.
Without knowing which mod combination is the root of the problem, NOTHING can be fixed and reports here are futile, especially as I cannot fix other's people's mods for them.
Think critically for a moment. 3D mods in Daggerfall are no different from 2D texture replacements. Do 2D texture replacements cause save issues?
No, they don't. They're some of the most dumb down easy mods to make as DFU automates the replacement process.
How would you even go about fixing a 'this mod causes save issues' if all your mod does is name a 3D object identically to a sprite and bundle it up in a pack? You can't!
FOR REAL, just give me your mod list for once. And that goes for everyone trying to report bugs.
Also, these ppl go to Dream 1st to tell me the Load is not working
Im not that far from locking the discussion and bug reports on all my mods, as there are no real bugs to report after all those yeas and discussion is usually getting crazy as well. Cheers to the exceptions!! Its draining.
As I understand we should be able to load saves with all the replaces enabled? Because that seems to not be happening. As long as only one horse pack is enabled, the game loads, but if any more than one is enabled, it wont load
I'd be more than happy to provide a mod list. How can I get it? I saw someone on a forum post a generated text file, but I can't find how to do that.
It's fun climbing horses and camels, but some locatiosns would become very difficult to traverse as they turn from set pieces into obstacle courses. Especially hammerfell as it has a much larger density of animals in alleys.
Next to one of the rideable horses. ^^
Using the windows/linux build on a mac will cause purple textures.
"F3DA-RW Horse preset pack > f3da-rw stallion"
Make sure to Change it's mod load order to LOWER than Faithful 3D Animals so it isnt overriden by the default 3D horse.
from: (<__> me, wondering why the custom horse textures arent working...)
Note:
3D custom horse colors DO work standalone from Faithful 3D Animals, in case anyone was wondering.
Images Pending approval for user upload.
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Macos gets its own version because it does something funky with textures.
Really cool mod though if the visuals are more important to you than the frames.
There's probably something I can do about it to ease the load, I'll keep it in mind when I return to this mod's revamp.