It took me a long time to reply, I didn't expect to receive so many negative messages, I can't understand what I did wrong. I understood that the virtual artists are very attached to their character, I understand not as a player, because for my part I am not good in photos, I am content to play simply. But for everyone to be happy, I wish that this V bears the name of the person who created this variant (the original). It is Amosow the girl who created this character, all the credit goes to her and I do not want to hurt her with this mod. I apologize to the people who took the wrong way to copy a character, it's something that I would surely not appreciate in an online game, but as the game is solo I do not understand the problem.
I'm defending this mod author not because I personally know them or because I would use this mod myself, but out of principle, there seems to be this misconception that we somehow own the appeareance of the character V we use to play cyberpunk 2077, here's a fact: we don't, neither it is an extension of our persona or anything like that (you might have sentimental attachment to it, which is a little weird, but that's all), "but why?" you might ask: well for the simple fact that this is an avatar that we created with other people's assets (CD Projekt Red and other mod authors) in a graphic engine and application OWNED BY CD PROJEKT RED, yes they give us the permission to do with the game files as we please (which is a CD Projekt thing only, other companies add DRM and only give you a licence of the game, and might even sue you like Take Two Interactive with GTA and Red Dead) but the intellectual property is still theirs in the end, so anything you create in this game is not yours, this goes for presets, mods, and screenshots,
so people that don't share their mods or presets because they say it's "theirs" are full of it and are just being selfish and elitist (as they would only share them with a closed group of people in occations), the work this mod author is doing is commendable making something that was not available, public for all of us to use, at the best of their abilities, so instead of policing people's freedom, and making snarky remarks, just to fulfill your need for moral superiority, let's all encourage this mod author to keep at it, as this is a mod COMMUNITY, we are meant to act COMMUNALLY
I’m sorry but what makes you think you are entitled to people’s personal mods? Not even talking about presets here because we are all indeed given the same sets of options unless we adjust them in blender or use custom heads. Like, in what world if someone makes a mod for themself they are selfish and elitist for not sharing it with strangers?
If you mean me, and if you mean the cross thing for the eyes... If you mean making a mod for another person because I was commissioned to do so because said person had been drawing the design on their OC for more than a year (and for longer than the one who had the similar mod had it) but couldn't bring it into the game, then sure. Wonder who is the one who copied - the one who drew it first, or the one who made it later ingame, claiming they weren't aware of the one who drew it, which apparently it's a fine excuse for them, but not for me who was also unaware of the existence of the mod.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Whatever works for you head boo. I hope one day that doesn't happen to you and you see another modder still agreeing in let someone else after receiving a no as answer using it. Not cool behavior.
You had me on your side until you said 'mods'. Recreating a preset from someone else's V look is one thing. On the fence about needing permission. Like you said we all got access to the same haircuts, eyes, faces, etc. It's us and some time to recreate it so you can say it's still transformative in nature.
Mods are a largely outside-the-loop thing. Blender DAZ, C++ notepad, and a ton of time, whatever you're using before you compress and archive it for a zip. Those are assets they created from scratch. Their IP. They are well in their rights to say no I made this for my own use. There are like a Dozen personal mods from people like Anrui, Hyst, and others I love to get because they've done gorgeous work in all their stills (badass jacket, custom pants, Double holsters, you get the idea) but the answer was 'No, I politely decline to share this mod at this time. Thank you for understanding.' and that's it.
We got so many mods because we do collaborate with each other so often and as a community inform people when they ask for help with rigging. weights, Texture maps, and all the other stuff I see in the discord channels. No one has an innate right to your work and they definitely aren't due it simply because you exist. If you want that mod then ask them and if you got the skill and the patience you ask 'Can I alter it?' If they say no or more likely no but I can help if you want to try your own then make your own damn mod instead with hookers and Blackjack. Then you can decide do i want to share it because it's your work (with their help).
There was this time a peep was interested in Vi's hair, which was a modified personal version of the Miyavi base I did for the modular hair mod, by adding some braids on the top and getting a ponytail from another hair. I had made it because I liked what I did for modular, but was a bit sad if I used it as is, it'd be the same as everyone else using it at that moment (style got more popular than I expected), so I modified it a little to make it unique to myself. Ofc, I wasn't up for just giving it to this person because it'd defeat the whole point of having it edited it to make it unique for myself, but still offered to make yet another variation of it, by changing up the ponytail to another one I tweaked a bit and by adding a braid on both sides of the style. That's how you make stuff for other people without defeating the whole purpose of having stuff unique to oneself. Inspiration is a wonderful thing, outright copying without any kind of personal touch is not.
I'm not saying that anyone is entitled to anyone's mod, i'm saying that not sharing your mod is selfish, because there's no good reason to keep it to yourself, and in this mod's case, let me word it another way so you can see my point: let's imagine someone made a mod about a gameplay change, something like adding wall run to the game or something like that, but that person is only ever posting videos and screenshots about the mod and not sharing it for whatever reason, now let's imagine that's the only mod that has achieved this functionality, then someone that watched the video was inspired by the private work and decided to make a similar mod from scratch that achieves the same, then this person shares their mod because the author of the first mod has no intention of publishing theirs, did the second person acted wrong in any way? would you say their mod was a blatant copy just because it wasn't the first? will them publishing it, not benefit the community as a whole?
and also sure the assets you make in blender, photoshop etc. are yours, i even said so in the original comment, the thing is when incorporate them into a mod, the mod itself is not yours (or not entirely) as you're depending on others' graphic engine, and game, for it to do something, if on the contrary, you made a game, a movie, or a render with those assets (where the programs you use for it gave you the authory of the final product) that then would be entirely yours
You are equating a tweak/gameplay mod which doesn't require any artistic/aesthetic input to a preset or any other appearance mod. It's not the same at all. You are calling people for keeping mods they designed and worked on on their own time with their own ideas selfish? Like, am I selfish because I designed my character's cyberware and I don't want to share them with random people? Are artists selfish too because they don't put up their full res pictures on the internet so others can print their art in high quality? Don't compare things that are completely different from one another. " the mod itself is not yours (or not entirely) as you're depending on others' graphic engine, and game, for it to do something" - following this train of thought, other people's mods aren't yours either because you are dependent on them for making them in the first place. This copy of a preset wouldn't exist without the original person coming up with it first, you are dependent on their eye and sense for aesthetic or beauty to find a combo they liked for a preset, which then another person decided to try to copy as close as posible without adapting it to their personal aesthetic or giving it their personal touch.
"entitled to other people's personal mods" is this a joke? someone used sliders in a video game, you can't trademark that just so you can feel special. truly a corpo mindset
people are so weird. these comments are weird. yall are weird.
anyone mad about someone picking the same options as someone else and pretending that someones character is "OC" when its just slider options is absolutely out of their mind. modding is for everyone, quit acting like its some weird elitist club, quit acting like you created a work of art out of vanilla assets, and quit acting like you own files (especially when those options are available to everyone).
its that kinda bullshit mentality that makes modding communities toxic, makes game companies stop allowing modding (because they dont care about their communities and dont think we should have the rights to use their assets) and just comes off as ridiculous. your character is not your personal property unless you threw that thing in blender and went all in. period. if you dont like people playing with your appearance get custom or get out.
maybe it's just because they liked the looks of the OC and want to use it for themselves, nothing wrong in that, you don't own a character appereance for a game, as other people might come to achieve the same look wheter they are trying or not to do so
dude...We don't get to have something just because we like it.. that's not ethical.. that's not how things work in life.. and if every single human being on this blessed earth had your mindset.. the society would simply descend in chaos.. the point of discussion here its not about owning something.. its about morality.. its not about rights.. cause this ain't a criminal case being solved in a federal court... we are all in a community here ..and as members of the same community we have moral obligations with each other.. that includes mutual respect.. that's what so many folks in the comments are trying to explain to u people.... at least what the author of this mod could have done before publicly releasing a preset of character that someone else has created.. is directly reaching out to that person .. and ask for their permission to do so.. or simply keep this preset for them selves since they like the character so much.. unless.. the intention behind this whole thing was to attract attention and create unnecessary drama..... which they certainly have achieved with success. Damn dopamine.. gotta have it somehow .. right.>?. xd
the thing here is, the author of this mod didn't just took it, they made their own preset to look similar to the other, sure they could have asked the owner of the private preset, but there's no need to do so, as the author of this mod, is not using any of the other's property, also i do not think there was any malicious intend in posting this, they just wanted to share it with us so we don't have to spend the time they spent on replicating the look
these are sliders built into the vanilla game. cut the shit. anyone can make this character. you dont OWN vanilla assets and their appearance. your whole "thats not how life works" thing...i dont have any idea what youre talking about. as a modding COMMUNITY we share things and make sure everyone is taken care of. So hoarding stuff and acting elitist and pretending like youre being stolen from because someone picked the same numbers as you is garbage mentality plain and simple. bottom line is, if someone is gonna be bothered that someone wants to throw a fit because someone made a character that looks like theirs out of vanilla assets and then wants to rant about morality they dont really have a place in communities built on sharing data, working for free and reciprocity.
Copying and sharing another person's creation is not a step forward, and even punished in some cases and if the person who created this character did not wish to share it, it is because there is a reason of his own, and you're right, V's appearance is not up to anyone, but when you spend hours browsing through the different facial feature choices, and pages and pages of mods in order to finding YOUR V and someone else COPYING it and especially sharing it publicly without asking or permission is disrespectful whether in life or in a game.But that's just my point of view and everyone has always done what they want on the internet.
Just imagine people enjoying this mod while the original character creator is hurt by this mod. BUT i don't know maybe he is completely ok with that, maybe he is happy that someone love his V so much that he recreated it to share it, maybe. Or maybe not.
V's are unique but I'm going to tell you although my second and third playthroughs are also unique I had started with a preset for both as a foundation and then made it mine. Case in point, I just took it and made another V using the preset.
Behold Alejandra "Ell" Vargas or just V if you value your cajones.
You have any idea how many modders and models get hit with 'how did you make them look that way' what mods did you use, what numbers? This is not plagirism. No one copied someone work and represented as their own. it was literally and openly inspirated by other works just like this V was inspired by them. Stop being offended for someone you never met, it makes you look like a total asshole.
Not being offended, just disappointed, but as i said it's only my point of view and what i feel from my experiences, you are free to think differently but you have no reason to insult me..
Look this community have awesome creators that shared so many options, peoples have all the keys to CREATE and being happy about their creations, so yeah it's disappointing to see in "New Mods" (hey i saw a V on many mods pages so i made the exact same one). It could have been (hey i CREATED a new V preset inspired from some popular characters for those of you that don't have time and want a beautiful thick girl) just like many others presets.
The thing is, copy and share have always and will always be seen bad, by most people anyway since you don't mind.
I just hope that people never stop to create, all creations have a source of inspiration, but copy is the lazy bad way. By "make a better choice" i meant choose to create, show us what YOU can do wether than copying, and you'll have much more fun and reward by creating.
The sticking point is they did not just Copy and share someone's work. If I took Kala's Patreon-only hair (and you should check them out, Alejandra is using Curly space buns or messy ponytail in my example) and said I made it when I uploaded it to Here then yes I'm a damn thief just copy-sharing. They saw a look and fiddled with all the dials and mods to get a look like it. Most artists recreate other artworks as students to test their skills and draw inspiration from. The description even says they saw a popular face and tried to recreate it as a preset. The greatest faux pas was not originally crediting who that author was they were trying to replicate.
the only case where it's punishable is if you straightforward, take the original files and post them, which he didn't 'cause in the first place there's no original preset, this is not theft, this is not just a copy, this is a preset inspirated on a character's screenshots, so nothing wrong about it
Ok, so I'm with drexnorg on this. You offended peoples gotta wake-up : BautistaOnNexus made a preset based on another player's character, wasn't made out of disrepect, but rather because he liked it and wanted other peoples to be able to play with it too.
Now, said preset wasn't on Nexus, so he didn't "stole" anyone's work : he made it himself, and referred every required mods and implied mod creators also. He used a reference that was made public, and that was under no right of ownership whatsoever, so please, keep calm.
He could have asked the creator if he could create a preset of her character, granted, but see, there's no such obligation. It would be like asking Ubisoft : "Hey, can I make a preset of Lara Croft for Cyberpunk 2077? She looks awesome and I'd like to play her as my avatar in that game." or ask to Angelina Jolie if he could create her in the game as an avatar to play with while at it...
So please, stop playing the holier than you offended kids, and if you don't like the mod, just pass by.
There are two ways about this - you can respect people who make stuff you like or you can disrespect them. Are they going to sue you if you choose the latter? Of course not. But don't be surprised if you end up with less and less content to enjoy.
You don't wanna know how many great people CP77 modding community has lost throughout the years due to easily avoidable nexus shenanigans. How many great people you have lost - because I can just dm them, or download their stuff from secret folders and stashes that were created specifically to hide their work from you (which I consider to be very unfortunate).
Imagine modders/artist as Potatoes - you cultivate them, you water them, you create an environment in which they can thrive; and you see them grow, and you get a lot of free potato chips and all. But if you just take everything with no regard, next season all you are left with is grass and weeds (not the good kind either).
If you like someone else's thing - be it a mod or a character or whatever. Contact them, ask them. If the creator doesn't want to share something - assume they have their reasons (maybe the characters is based on them, and it would make them uncomfortable; maybe it's based on their irl gf, and they don't want to see her marketed as "thick girl" on nexus), and please respect each other.
This is why there are so many private mods being made, and why people are reluctant to share them - because that's the only real way to ensure your character (possibly based on a real person) won't end up being someone's else "thick girl" :P
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I understood that the virtual artists are very attached to their character, I understand not as a player, because for my part I am not good in photos, I am content to play simply.
But for everyone to be happy, I wish that this V bears the name of the person who created this variant (the original).
It is Amosow the girl who created this character, all the credit goes to her and I do not want to hurt her with this mod.
I apologize to the people who took the wrong way to copy a character, it's something that I would surely not appreciate in an online game, but as the game is solo I do not understand the problem.
your version of your in game character is not that special and neither are you. Stop whining so much.
so people that don't share their mods or presets because they say it's "theirs" are full of it and are just being selfish and elitist (as they would only share them with a closed group of people in occations), the work this mod author is doing is commendable making something that was not available, public for all of us to use, at the best of their abilities, so instead of policing people's freedom, and making snarky remarks, just to fulfill your need for moral superiority, let's all encourage this mod author to keep at it, as this is a mod COMMUNITY, we are meant to act COMMUNALLY
~a member of the community
Like, in what world if someone makes a mod for themself they are selfish and elitist for not sharing it with strangers?
If you mean making a mod for another person because I was commissioned to do so because said person had been drawing the design on their OC for more than a year (and for longer than the one who had the similar mod had it) but couldn't bring it into the game, then sure.
Wonder who is the one who copied - the one who drew it first, or the one who made it later ingame, claiming they weren't aware of the one who drew it, which apparently it's a fine excuse for them, but not for me who was also unaware of the existence of the mod.
For the record, person didn't even answer about using it LMAO
Mods are a largely outside-the-loop thing. Blender DAZ, C++ notepad, and a ton of time, whatever you're using before you compress and archive it for a zip. Those are assets they created from scratch. Their IP. They are well in their rights to say no I made this for my own use. There are like a Dozen personal mods from people like Anrui, Hyst, and others I love to get because they've done gorgeous work in all their stills (badass jacket, custom pants, Double holsters, you get the idea) but the answer was 'No, I politely decline to share this mod at this time. Thank you for understanding.' and that's it.
We got so many mods because we do collaborate with each other so often and as a community inform people when they ask for help with rigging. weights, Texture maps, and all the other stuff I see in the discord channels. No one has an innate right to your work and they definitely aren't due it simply because you exist. If you want that mod then ask them and if you got the skill and the patience you ask 'Can I alter it?' If they say no or more likely no but I can help if you want to try your own then make your own damn mod instead with hookers and Blackjack. Then you can decide do i want to share it because it's your work (with their help).
I had made it because I liked what I did for modular, but was a bit sad if I used it as is, it'd be the same as everyone else using it at that moment (style got more popular than I expected), so I modified it a little to make it unique to myself.
Ofc, I wasn't up for just giving it to this person because it'd defeat the whole point of having it edited it to make it unique for myself, but still offered to make yet another variation of it, by changing up the ponytail to another one I tweaked a bit and by adding a braid on both sides of the style.
That's how you make stuff for other people without defeating the whole purpose of having stuff unique to oneself.
Inspiration is a wonderful thing, outright copying without any kind of personal touch is not.
did the second person acted wrong in any way?
would you say their mod was a blatant copy just because it wasn't the first?
will them publishing it, not benefit the community as a whole?
Don't compare things that are completely different from one another.
" the mod itself is not yours (or not entirely) as you're depending on others' graphic engine, and game, for it to do something" - following this train of thought, other people's mods aren't yours either because you are dependent on them for making them in the first place. This copy of a preset wouldn't exist without the original person coming up with it first, you are dependent on their eye and sense for aesthetic or beauty to find a combo they liked for a preset, which then another person decided to try to copy as close as posible without adapting it to their personal aesthetic or giving it their personal touch.
these comments are weird.
yall are weird.
anyone mad about someone picking the same options as someone else and pretending that someones character is "OC" when its just slider options is absolutely out of their mind.
modding is for everyone, quit acting like its some weird elitist club, quit acting like you created a work of art out of vanilla assets, and quit acting like you own files (especially when those options are available to everyone).
its that kinda bullshit mentality that makes modding communities toxic, makes game companies stop allowing modding (because they dont care about their communities and dont think we should have the rights to use their assets) and just comes off as ridiculous.
your character is not your personal property unless you threw that thing in blender and went all in. period.
if you dont like people playing with your appearance get custom or get out.
cut the shit. anyone can make this character. you dont OWN vanilla assets and their appearance.
your whole "thats not how life works" thing...i dont have any idea what youre talking about.
as a modding COMMUNITY we share things and make sure everyone is taken care of.
So hoarding stuff and acting elitist and pretending like youre being stolen from because someone picked the same numbers as you is garbage mentality plain and simple.
bottom line is, if someone is gonna be bothered that someone wants to throw a fit because someone made a character that looks like theirs out of vanilla assets and then wants to rant about morality they dont really have a place in communities built on sharing data, working for free and reciprocity.
Just imagine people enjoying this mod while the original character creator is hurt by this mod.
BUT i don't know maybe he is completely ok with that, maybe he is happy that someone love his V so much that he recreated it to share it, maybe.
Or maybe not.
HAVE FUN ! PEACE
Behold Alejandra "Ell" Vargas or just V if you value your cajones.
You have any idea how many modders and models get hit with 'how did you make them look that way' what mods did you use, what numbers? This is not plagirism. No one copied someone work and represented as their own. it was literally and openly inspirated by other works just like this V was inspired by them. Stop being offended for someone you never met, it makes you look like a total asshole.
Look this community have awesome creators that shared so many options, peoples have all the keys to CREATE and being happy about their creations, so yeah it's disappointing to see in "New Mods" (hey i saw a V on many mods pages so i made the exact same one).
It could have been (hey i CREATED a new V preset inspired from some popular characters for those of you that don't have time and want a beautiful thick girl) just like many others presets.
The thing is, copy and share have always and will always be seen bad, by most people anyway since you don't mind.
I just hope that people never stop to create, all creations have a source of inspiration, but copy is the lazy bad way.
By "make a better choice" i meant choose to create, show us what YOU can do wether than copying, and you'll have much more fun and reward by creating.
https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/images/47758
Damn, She is good with the camera.
Now, said preset wasn't on Nexus, so he didn't "stole" anyone's work : he made it himself, and referred every required mods and implied mod creators also. He used a reference that was made public, and that was under no right of ownership whatsoever, so please, keep calm.
He could have asked the creator if he could create a preset of her character, granted, but see, there's no such obligation. It would be like asking Ubisoft : "Hey, can I make a preset of Lara Croft for Cyberpunk 2077? She looks awesome and I'd like to play her as my avatar in that game." or ask to Angelina Jolie if he could create her in the game as an avatar to play with while at it...
So please, stop playing the holier than you offended kids, and if you don't like the mod, just pass by.
- Peace to all, and keep on modding peoples.
You don't wanna know how many great people CP77 modding community has lost throughout the years due to easily avoidable nexus shenanigans. How many great people you have lost - because I can just dm them, or download their stuff from secret folders and stashes that were created specifically to hide their work from you (which I consider to be very unfortunate).
Imagine modders/artist as Potatoes - you cultivate them, you water them, you create an environment in which they can thrive; and you see them grow, and you get a lot of free potato chips and all. But if you just take everything with no regard, next season all you are left with is grass and weeds (not the good kind either).
If you like someone else's thing - be it a mod or a character or whatever. Contact them, ask them. If the creator doesn't want to share something - assume they have their reasons (maybe the characters is based on them, and it would make them uncomfortable; maybe it's based on their irl gf, and they don't want to see her marketed as "thick girl" on nexus), and please respect each other.