HI. OK SO. Genuinely I am no longer sure if he was De-Grinched at all. He looks different to me in my game, but I've been having a ton of issues with shaders in this patch, and honestly. Everything looks different, not just him. I've been seeing reports from other people about his expressions changing, but the differences are so subtle in the expressions themselves that it might just be me getting tricked by the lighting (like from the campfire in the example screenshots.,,, which would cast random lighting 😅......) it might be his rigs getting swapped/bugged in different scenes (I can't actually confirm this yet, though), or it might be issues with shaders (I've been getting weird bars and dithering in shadows...) Or it might be me literally remembering the scenes wrong. If things look weird to you, it might be any one of those issues. Or it might be something else!
...Or maybe he really was De-Grinched! I've got no clue, honestly. I think I need to lie down.
Ok yeah, I'm now pretty sure he wasn't actually De-Grinched like I thought.
I'm still leaving this page up for clarity, and to give people an easier way to grab the backup files if necessary. If you run into any scenes where his expressions were changed in the dialog files, let me know, though, and I can put his grinch rig back the way it was before.
Sorry for any confusion 😓 I cannot believe I've got yet another situation with this man's mesh where I had to go "ACTUALLY I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON," after the fact, but here we are.
Oh wouldn't the early access face affect it, though? But yeah, the more I've tested it the more I think I just got fooled a little bit by other people's reports about it and tricks of the light wrt the campfire + slight variations in the expression animations which Are actually part of the game... I do think I'm going to leave this page up as an easier way for people to find the backup meshes, but yeah, it doesn't seem like he was actually De-Grinched like I thought. I'll be updating the mod description to reflect that.
Yeah seems like it, i always wondered what people have with him being de-grinched. It was probably just a bunch of trolls.
The early access face doesnt really change the animations, only the lips and cheekbones are a bit more refined so that he has a wider smile too but other than that everything is the same as with the normal face, as my friends all play without the EA head, so i can confirm that it didnt influence anything except his look.
Wait, will these emotes fix the animations on the modded mesh of his head? Or is that still the issue?
I still hadn't played the game since patch 7 came out (I'm drowning in work), so I don't know if anything has been changed about Astarion's facial emotes. I know that previously his expressions on a Blender-modded head weren't right. Especially his smiles. They cut through his cheeks in a horrible way. Right now I'm reduced to only editing textures because expressions on his edited head mesh are screwed up (and that goes for every Astarion's edited head mesh out there afaik).
Unfortunately not 😭 I thought his expressions had been altered a bit by Patch 7, and he looked...Off in my game (although now I think I might just be having shader problems???) and was seeing people upset by him being De-Grinched. Testing the backup rigs and meshes I saved from Patch 6 seemed to make a (small) difference, so I decided to upload them on their own page. These are unedited backup rigs from the game, they're not Blender edited models and I think people are still having issues with that, unfortunately.
Can something at least be done with his smile emotes? Can they even be edited in Blender?? I could probably live with the rest of facial animations on the edited head, but those cheek-cutting smiles are turning him into Joker, it's bloody awful.
Oh sorry for the (very) late reply, but I'm actually realizing you might be able to edit the base skeleton to fix some of this??? And editing the base emotes may actually be possible, too! I might look into that when I have time. In the meantime, jerinski has a guide on editing base skeletons/head armatures here that might help!!! Adjusting the bones for the mouth may help the Joker smile (and editing the base armature might fix the vanilla grinch/occasional broken eye blinking bugs too??? Hmmmm....)
Me downloading your de-grinch mod: Oh, I like it better when he grinches. Me now downloading this one: Ah s#*!, here we go again.
Also, "he shares his wrinkle map with Shadowheart, and a lot of other female characters in the game" made me laugh. That's why he's so suspiciously pretty. Thanks as always for your fantastic work in regards of him and Wyll!
I mean, the differences are pretty subtle 😅! I don't think it's just you. I could only really tell by laying video recordings Aimryax took over each other and going through the animation frame by frame. (That's actually what those screenshots are, they're the exact same frame of the animation from two different video recordings. The differences in the hair are just, because wind physics for hair are random.) There's been some adjustments around the mouth; it doesn't open quite as wide anymore, and the shadow on the nasolabial crease is less pronounced in Patch 7.
I'll be honest, swapping the meshes back is probably just being a lil nitpicky about a small readjustment to his mesh; the actual dramatic De-Grinchifying people are noticing is probably them changing the emotion rigs in the dialog files themselves, which would require going into the dialog timeline files to change them back. I might do that myself for a couple scenes, but I'm actually getting the mod pages ready for some dialog editing resources atm, so people might be able to use those to fix it themselves, too!
Lol this reminds me of when someone made a mod getting rid of Miranda’s inappropriately timed ass shots in ME2 and then when BioWare got rid of them later that same user made a mod to restore them
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This mod is just a place to host backup meshes in case he's ever actually de-Grinched; however, I don't think these are necessary yet!
HI. OK SO. Genuinely I am no longer sure if he was De-Grinched at all. He looks different to me in my game, but I've been having a ton of issues with shaders in this patch, and honestly. Everything looks different, not just him. I've been seeing reports from other people about his expressions changing, but the differences are so subtle in the expressions themselves that it might just be me getting tricked by the lighting (like from the campfire in the example screenshots.,,, which would cast random lighting 😅......) it might be his rigs getting swapped/bugged in different scenes (I can't actually confirm this yet, though), or it might be issues with shaders (I've been getting weird bars and dithering in shadows...) Or it might be me literally remembering the scenes wrong. If things look weird to you, it might be any one of those issues. Or it might be something else!
...Or maybe he really was De-Grinched! I've got no clue, honestly. I think I need to lie down.
Ok yeah, I'm now pretty sure he wasn't actually De-Grinched like I thought.
I'm still leaving this page up for clarity, and to give people an easier way to grab the backup files if necessary. If you run into any scenes where his expressions were changed in the dialog files, let me know, though, and I can put his grinch rig back the way it was before.
Sorry for any confusion 😓 I cannot believe I've got yet another situation with this man's mesh where I had to go "ACTUALLY I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON," after the fact, but here we are.
The early access face doesnt really change the animations, only the lips and cheekbones are a bit more refined so that he has a wider smile too but other than that everything is the same as with the normal face, as my friends all play without the EA head, so i can confirm that it didnt influence anything except his look.
I still hadn't played the game since patch 7 came out (I'm drowning in work), so I don't know if anything has been changed about Astarion's facial emotes. I know that previously his expressions on a Blender-modded head weren't right. Especially his smiles. They cut through his cheeks in a horrible way. Right now I'm reduced to only editing textures because expressions on his edited head mesh are screwed up (and that goes for every Astarion's edited head mesh out there afaik).
Can something at least be done with his smile emotes? Can they even be edited in Blender?? I could probably live with the rest of facial animations on the edited head, but those cheek-cutting smiles are turning him into Joker, it's bloody awful.
Me now downloading this one: Ah s#*!, here we go again.
Also, "he shares his wrinkle map with Shadowheart, and a lot of other female characters in the game" made me laugh. That's why he's so suspiciously pretty.
Thanks as always for your fantastic work in regards of him and Wyll!
I'll be honest, swapping the meshes back is probably just being a lil nitpicky about a small readjustment to his mesh; the actual dramatic De-Grinchifying people are noticing is probably them changing the emotion rigs in the dialog files themselves, which would require going into the dialog timeline files to change them back. I might do that myself for a couple scenes, but I'm actually getting the mod pages ready for some dialog editing resources atm, so people might be able to use those to fix it themselves, too!