First Minor version has been created, please take a look at the mod description for the details, there will be one more minor version created at least, which will be without lightning damage and charges, but that is a wip.
Additionally, Asator mod is a far less OP version of any of mine, and is highly recommended.
I'm currently using the minor hammer and seem the be getting lightning charges when crouching, jumping, dashing, shoving, disengaging, or really taking any action.
Good that you mentioned it, did you notice if this only happens in combat, or outside of combat as well? - I haven't had time to test it much, nor start work on the second minor hammer, but if you can let me know if this happens only during combat, then I have an idea as to where to start, and I can try to have this fixed, probably monday next week
This happens outside of combat as well. I'm not complaining cuz I just cheese by crouching/standing right before a fight to get my charges up LOL.
I play as a monk and I noticed that I get charges even when I use unarmed strikes and flurry of blows, and I'm not using the sparkle gloves. Not a complaint here either on this, as this frees up a gloves slot for something else. I can see why if this was intended, as simply wielding Mjolnir would give you lightning charges when punching like how it could in the Marvel comics
Love this mod. Could you do something like a Captain America shield that also comes back to you when you throw it? It might have to be coded as a weapon and not a shield in order for it to have a weapon damage, but you could add a stat like +2/+3 to AC to help make up for it.
Perhaps I'm missing something... but is there a way to keep the spells when 'throwing'? Because every time I throw the hammer, all the spells disappear from my hotbar. It seems like throwing a hammer that returns should allow you to keep the skills on your hotbar, as it's not like you're throwing it away.
Also, would it be possible to update the lightning spells to remove the 'short rest' requirements. Seems silly to be playing a 'God of Thunder' and be restricted to having to short rest between using your thunder spells.
Thrown weapon generally lose the skills if I remember right, they return upon the weapon returning.
I am not planning on changing the short rest req, it is already ridonkulously powerful. If I do do a OP OP version someday, perhaps I will change this.
I recommend you check out: DoctorBeetus, who made the mod: Thor - God of Thunder, it is stormbreaker with the custom skin matching that of MCU, and special effects.
On the minor version this is there, but I haven't added it to the major version. I will update the text on minor to explain why it has it, and the major don't. As for adding it to the major version, perhaps I'll make an "op op" at some point after the minors are done, that will have everything that that the minors have that the current major don't.
Definitely would be nice having another Lightning Charge weapon, like a weaker version since I wouldn't feel ok using this until act 3. Brutal Leap from Bonespike Boots could also be a cool addition.
Before I set out to make some armor mods, I will make 2-3 minor editions of this mod, and I agree with the lightning charge, it was also the hardest thing on this mod to get working when used as a throwing action - so I am eager to have it be used for that reason alone haha. Right now the next two minor editions will be 1 - with lightning charges and possibly 1 skill and 1 spell, or possibly no skill or spell(expect this one the soonest) 2 - @Aborgman's request, although what I want to do with that one, might require some extensive tinkering, since I have a fun idea that I don't know if it could work.
I agree it could use a good jump buff to go with the rest. there's a two handed maul you get in waukeen's rest that does 1d4 thunder damage to nearby enemies when you jump and land near them. Not a lot, but it adds more to the shock and awe lightshow this hammer is all about. could boost it at higher levels or something, make the hammer level up with the player.
Update: Nevermind! Old-fashioned restart did the trick! Thanks for making this!
I have "Full Release Mod Fixer" and use Vortex, but this isn't allowing me to download it. Any thoughts as to why? It just goes into Vortex then gives an error. Thanks for any help!
You did note that you might make a less OP version, so, I'm wondering if you'd consider this:
Preface: I'm a (as a very serious hobby) Norse Mythology scholar who's analyzed the source material for over a decade (some with actual Norse scholars) and am making this request based on immersion as RP-ing as Thor.
I don't really mind if it's a little OP, so I'm fine with the stats, but, in the surviving source material, the Prose and Poetic Edda, there is absolutely no mention of Thor wielding lightning powers of any sort. His power with his hammer is pretty much that he hits things VERY hard and that if he throws it, it will come back to him. That's it. Also - while you could make an argument that there's some indication the hammer can change its size, many scholars (myself included) would argue that the lines in the sources that imply this are, as simply put as I can, saying that the hammer is small enough for him to cover it with his clothes.
It's prudent for me to note that I love all the liberties that have been taken with Thor in all the various tales across games and media, but I would love to see a truly mythology accurate one. I wish I knew how to mod!
So, if you're still reading, here's what would make this Norse fanatic super happy (and others lurking, I'm sure): - Remove all instances of anything lightning as there's no true basis for that in the source material (there's a lot of reason why people think this even taking Marvel's version aside, so I understand the inclusion, but it isn't mythology accurate)
+++ Remove all the abilities associated with the weapon except for two and add one:
- Leave the thrown ability that does thunder damage. Thunder damage makes sense from a RP standpoint to me since he hits things so hard. (fun note: he's also never once described as the "God of Thunder" in the source material either. Again, there's some really good reasons why he's associated with thunder, his name means it in some languages, but he's not the god of it. Most Norse gods aren't tied to domains like Greek myth)
- Add an ability like "Absolute Power" where it just does a huge amount of damage when swung. Also add force damage to it and knockback. Maybe make it rechargeable on Long Rest only to offset it's might!
- Leave the return to hand mechanic
- Honestly, I think the stats are really good and make sense
Anyway - just some thoughts. Again, really appreciate you making this mod.
Possibly making a couple of different less OP versions can be done in the near future if I find the time - something like you're suggesting might be possible, I had been wondering about a an option that would deal damage on the user when the hammer is thrown, but I have to figure out how to go about that. - Asator's hammer comes without any spells or skills, so that might tide you over until I print out something like you want.
Actually I didn't want to add any thunder spells or charges necessarily, as the idea that the lightning comes from the hammer is also not something I haven't seen outside of Marvel, certainly not what I grew up with. However I did grow up in a Nordic country and the mythos we had was of course that thunder and lightning sparked when he rode across the sky, but also that he was considered the "weather god", admittedly I am not a scholar, and those lessons were more than a decade ago! But I wanted something along those lines, so while trying to set up a Thor build, I found it hard to balance what I wanted to be a largely non-magic build with something that had lightning/thunder abilities, without ending up with a bunch of skills and abilities that I didn't want. The easy solution of course was to tie these skills and spells to the hammer, and simply rp that they came from the character itself - poor man's solution haha!
Well what I want to make, that you might appreciate, is 2 armors, one which is a robe(snugglesome green shirt skin) and another would be a variation of the jolty vest. Both would have a +20 strength stat tied to their belts, since there isnt a belt slot, this would be the solution. Another item would be a "Vidar" boot that grants dex. Obviously some other stats/abilities will be tied to these items, but nothing as grand as the hammer. Odin Spear could be fun to at some point, perhaps a series of norse myth inspired items, with a major/minor version of each, one OP and one less so - it would be good practice for me.
The hardest part with the armor so far, is simply finding them in the files, since the names aren't the same as what is in the game. I do believe I found the "jolty vest" though. Anyhow I am quite busy normally so no guarantee on the release for any of these, but hopefully something more will be produced before the month is over.
Really digging the idea of this, just out of curiosity, is there any way you could potentially make this a 2h weapon as well? I know mjolnir is typically a 1h weapon in everything we know about thor and the weapon, but just wanted to ask anyways...
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Additionally, Asator mod is a far less OP version of any of mine, and is highly recommended.
- I haven't had time to test it much, nor start work on the second minor hammer, but if you can let me know if this happens only during combat, then I have an idea as to where to start, and I can try to have this fixed, probably monday next week
I play as a monk and I noticed that I get charges even when I use unarmed strikes and flurry of blows, and I'm not using the sparkle gloves. Not a complaint here either on this, as this frees up a gloves slot for something else. I can see why if this was intended, as simply wielding Mjolnir would give you lightning charges when punching like how it could in the Marvel comics
Also, would it be possible to update the lightning spells to remove the 'short rest' requirements. Seems silly to be playing a 'God of Thunder' and be restricted to having to short rest between using your thunder spells.
I am not planning on changing the short rest req, it is already ridonkulously powerful. If I do do a OP OP version someday, perhaps I will change this.
Right now the next two minor editions will be
1 - with lightning charges and possibly 1 skill and 1 spell, or possibly no skill or spell(expect this one the soonest)
2 - @Aborgman's request, although what I want to do with that one, might require some extensive tinkering, since I have a fun idea that I don't know if it could work.
anyways, great mod!
I have "Full Release Mod Fixer" and use Vortex, but this isn't allowing me to download it. Any thoughts as to why? It just goes into Vortex then gives an error. Thanks for any help!
Preface: I'm a (as a very serious hobby) Norse Mythology scholar who's analyzed the source material for over a decade (some with actual Norse scholars) and am making this request based on immersion as RP-ing as Thor.
I don't really mind if it's a little OP, so I'm fine with the stats, but, in the surviving source material, the Prose and Poetic Edda, there is absolutely no mention of Thor wielding lightning powers of any sort. His power with his hammer is pretty much that he hits things VERY hard and that if he throws it, it will come back to him. That's it. Also - while you could make an argument that there's some indication the hammer can change its size, many scholars (myself included) would argue that the lines in the sources that imply this are, as simply put as I can, saying that the hammer is small enough for him to cover it with his clothes.
It's prudent for me to note that I love all the liberties that have been taken with Thor in all the various tales across games and media, but I would love to see a truly mythology accurate one. I wish I knew how to mod!
So, if you're still reading, here's what would make this Norse fanatic super happy (and others lurking, I'm sure):
- Remove all instances of anything lightning as there's no true basis for that in the source material (there's a lot of reason why people think this even taking Marvel's version aside, so I understand the inclusion, but it isn't mythology accurate)
+++ Remove all the abilities associated with the weapon except for two and add one:
- Leave the thrown ability that does thunder damage. Thunder damage makes sense from a RP standpoint to me since he hits things so hard. (fun note: he's also never once described as the "God of Thunder" in the source material either. Again, there's some really good reasons why he's associated with thunder, his name means it in some languages, but he's not the god of it. Most Norse gods aren't tied to domains like Greek myth)
- Add an ability like "Absolute Power" where it just does a huge amount of damage when swung. Also add force damage to it and knockback. Maybe make it rechargeable on Long Rest only to offset it's might!
- Leave the return to hand mechanic
- Honestly, I think the stats are really good and make sense
Anyway - just some thoughts. Again, really appreciate you making this mod.
One Thor fan to another, cheers!
- Asator's hammer comes without any spells or skills, so that might tide you over until I print out something like you want.
Actually I didn't want to add any thunder spells or charges necessarily, as the idea that the lightning comes from the hammer is also not something I haven't seen outside of Marvel, certainly not what I grew up with.
However I did grow up in a Nordic country and the mythos we had was of course that thunder and lightning sparked when he rode across the sky, but also that he was considered the "weather god", admittedly I am not a scholar, and those lessons were more than a decade ago! But I wanted something along those lines, so while trying to set up a Thor build, I found it hard to balance what I wanted to be a largely non-magic build with something that had lightning/thunder abilities, without ending up with a bunch of skills and abilities that I didn't want. The easy solution of course was to tie these skills and spells to the hammer, and simply rp that they came from the character itself - poor man's solution haha!
Well what I want to make, that you might appreciate, is 2 armors, one which is a robe(snugglesome green shirt skin) and another would be a variation of the jolty vest. Both would have a +20 strength stat tied to their belts, since there isnt a belt slot, this would be the solution. Another item would be a "Vidar" boot that grants dex. Obviously some other stats/abilities will be tied to these items, but nothing as grand as the hammer. Odin Spear could be fun to at some point, perhaps a series of norse myth inspired items, with a major/minor version of each, one OP and one less so - it would be good practice for me.
The hardest part with the armor so far, is simply finding them in the files, since the names aren't the same as what is in the game. I do believe I found the "jolty vest" though. Anyhow I am quite busy normally so no guarantee on the release for any of these, but hopefully something more will be produced before the month is over.