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Thank you so much for putting soooo many customization options in. It must have been a crazy amount of work! I'll definitely have fun messing around with everything (and ya know making things hard...but not too hard lol).
Quick question also, do the characters who have injuries have to be in your current party when you long rest to gain the benefits of the long rest to the healing of their ailments? Or is them just being in the camp fine?
Thank you for the mod!
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Thank you for answering so quickly <3
It felt pretty overbearing. I went to fight the paladin's that are hunting karlach and wyll went down once during that fight, but I guess between the auto crits while downed and the fact smites count as a separate damage instances (... larian) by the time the fight was over wyll had lvl 4 exhaustion and 6 separate injuries. In like 2-3 fights I went through 15 kits.
I've played with injuries when I used to DM DnD and something that strikes me particularly more brutal about BG3 is the fact larian loves to do separate instances of damage packets that all count as separate hits for the sake of concentration checks and other things. This would mean that a single attack could potentially generate more than 1 injury at once which might explain why I'm seeing so many.
I do play with very high difficulty mods so perhaps I need to tone those down If I'm gonna include this mod but I want to learn how it exactly works. The default config as it stands seemed pretty overwhelming on my current setup.
Using Vortex I updated the main mod but much later noticed I could no longer remove injuries.
It took me quite a while to pinpoint that to the extra config which I had to download manually and figure out where it belongs again, as it's been a while I had installed it. Of course I had forgotten all about the extra config ...
Loose SE configuration files aren't supported by Vortex right now (and may never be), however, i like the idea of that as a vortex extension. I don't know anything about those yet, but i'm gonna look into that quickly and see how feasible of an idea it is.
EDIT: Nope, sorry, i'm not touching that.
In the meantime, it's generally a good idea to use vortex to come back here and download the config file every time you see an update unfortunately. Would need goon to confirm, but it's unlikely there'll be many more config updates. It's in a really good place atm
For the time being I have also added the config file in Vortex, so I should see updates in future. But Deployment isn't specifically happy with that config .pak as it doesn't really know what to do with the files. I hope it will not keep acting up in future.
The reason the config is split off is because the main mod is a framework, my stuff with the actual system is essentially optional. Perhaps we could consider restructuring and splitting the mod in two, setting up the default config inside of it. The thing is this wouldn't really help at all, unless it forcibly overwrote existing configs in the folder (which is a bad idea for player customisation). So for the moment you'll just have to use the existing means of checking for updates and adding the config file manually, also, keep the file disabled in Vortex; you can still check for updates without deploying it.
Anyways, you would probably need a kind of default and override system for your config. I am aware there is likely no easy solution. Tracking is a website only feature right? I often tend to rely on Vortex only. For now I will rather keep it in the mod list, one way or the other. I am currently not quite sure if disabled mods are also checked if I don't manually select and check them. I will keep an eye on it.
Btw, I think I should restate that I really like the mod. Great work!
Really glad you like the mod though - if you've got any other suggestions, let us know! Thanks!
Can you explain for me how and when exhaustion apply (aside from injuries), as well as how you get madness? Also, Injury Kit seems to be recognize as a scroll (my wizard can try to learn it for 50 gold but doesn't receive anything after that)
I fixed that issue with injury kits just now in 2.0.5, thanks for letting me know.
I am trying the Madness condition, and was able to apply it by using Dissonant Whisper on my ally, however, it applies Short-term madness: Paralyzed for a while, then change to just Short-term Madness, which, from the description doesn't do anything. Is this intended or is it a bug? (Just think it is kinda of weird that using the injury kit will remove a condition that doesn't do anything)
Image of the condition: https://imgur.com/a/r6JkvUh
Intimidated (Short-term Madness) removal wihtout Short-term Madness condition being removed: https://imgur.com/a/Owtk5sB
I also found some weird interaction too, Injury Kit seemed to cure 2 injuries per use now, and it roll a healing check even though I did not have any injury that can be removed from healing: https://imgur.com/a/qIg1MG7 (2 images)
And enemies sometimes randomly lose injuries: https://imgur.com/a/cUF8Lie
I use the newest mod files and config files.
1. Weak Persona seems to unable to remove through healing (The save stills happened normally, but even if I succed, nothing happened), even though in the same instance, blisters was able to be remove by healing. Edited: I was able to reproduced this 3 time, and it just happened with weak persona.
2. After the first time someone get madness, I am unable to apply another madness to them a second time (I get hysteria for the first time, after that, only the "Short-term/Long-term Madness condition get applied, but not any of the actual harmful status, then it get remove immediately.) Edited: This one I was able to recreated twice, after that I am unable to do that again, statuses seemed to apply normally.
3. Some status seems to auto removed from enemies (for me it is Major Disfigurement, IDK if there are any other statuses that also do this). This one also get recreated consistently.
4. The Madness: Stunned doesn't seems to do anything, character can still move around and take action (I am outside of combat tho).
Also, is there anyway to lower the madness round numbers? If I get lucky and roll a short term madness on boss with 20 turns paralyzed, that encounter is pretty much done and I don't really want that. And how can I progress Exhaustion? I only can get level 1.
I really like the mod and trying to test it constantly, so I will keep updating what I "seemingly" bugs found with it, hope it doesn't make you feel pressured to go out of your way to fix it.
1. Missed that one when overhauling removal systems, easy fix.
2. It just depends on the condition, some will overwrite and others won't. In my testing it's behaving as expected.
3. Major Disfigurement's sub-injury Horrible Scar was not set up properly, another easy fix. If it's not that I don't know what it would be.
4. It was a Boost instead of an Incapacitate, another easy fix.
Madness applications can't be customised on the player side of things, no plans for it to be a configuration option just yet. It is on the to-do list to have per-injury enemy XP types, so "Boss" etc. These could be used to effectively filter certain injuries from applying to these types just like the per-injury race and tag system. Osiris, the co-author of this mod responsible for all the pretty configuration and most of the SE stuff is pretty busy right now, so it could be weeks or months before the to-do list is whittled down.
I did find some bugs tho, reported them in the bugs section. Also, when enemies have maximum amount of injuries (i did that by using a cheat weapon to deal humongus amount of every type of damage), destroyed foot and damaged hamstrings keep replacing each other, from what I understand, destroyed foot is the higher tier injury, which should take priority over damaged hamstrings, no? I also can't find the configurments section for damaged hamstrings anywhere.
When maximum amount of injuries, long-term madness and short-term madness keeps trying to applied but can't, I guess this is never going to be important, but it is a bit weird so I think I should report it to.
Yeah when it comes to madness applications, due to them being specific status types and not just boosts they will not always layer and apply appropriately for Long-term/Short-term Madness being re-applied, but like you said it's never really going to be a problem.
I have the "Home Brew - Comprehensive Reworks" mod installed.
Its a massive overhaul for the game.
It also has some other mods integrated.
And one of them happens to be "JWL Discordant Instruments". (This mod is probably also edited and balanced for the Rework mod)
And i want to use your mod now, and i wonder if i need to install the patch.
Will the patch even work in this case?
If I give the AI Lesser Restoration/Greater Restoration *(through Combat Extender for example, would the AI be able to understand to use it to cure injuries?