I think I might know why your mod isn't working for anyone but you. I decided to open up the esp in the CK and poke around a bit to see if I could find anything wrong, and--mind, I'm a beginner myself--I found that some of the scripts it requires to run seem to be entirely missing. I only looked at Keerava, so I don't know about the other two, but I promise you that the mod is not working and that we aren't mistaking Keerava's usual saltiness for her anger after the quest.
Maybe try reuploading the exact version of the mod that works for you? Also, can you test it and be sure it works for you if installed after completing Taking Care of Business? That was the other thing I considered might be a cause...but I really do think those missing scripts are probably the reason.
Sorry for the late reply. When I open the CK, I choose the base game plus the update master. I believe the update master is just the standard patches, correct?
I definitely want it to work for everyone! Had a new baby in October...so had other things on my mind!
Anyway, just trying to understand why a script would show for me, but not others. I didn't select any special mods when I opened the CK. Just the master, update, and this mod.
From my experience actually installing mods, since I've never made one beyond tweaking those I had for personal preferences, you have to include scripts as separate files, or at least it appears that way. They are referenced and loaded by the ESP, but I honestly do not remember ever finding a mod that includes any scripts whatsoever that does not have them in a separate folder in the download. Kinda confusing, since I'm quite sure earlier TES games (or at least Morrowind) had scripts inside the ESP, but there you have it.
EDIT: Just checked, there are exactly two mods I have that use effects that need to be scripted that do not have a scripts folder or a BSA file with the ESP: this one, and one other that has had reported problems doing certain things (haven't reached the point in my game yet where I could see it first-hand). So yeah.
Regardless, this is a really good idea. If you can locate and upload those scripts soon, I would be delighted. And it'd be insta-endorse.
I updated the mod based on the posts here. Hopefully you guys will let me know if it works for you now.
It looks like someone made a much deeper Thieves Guild mod since I made this one, but I still prefer to not change the canon quests and just add some personal role play elements, which I feel this does.
A Good Idea,however it doesn't Seem to Work,at Least in my Game..I have only Used it with Haelga and Yes,she Accepts my Proposal but is Still Hostile and the Option to Repeat it is There All the Time..Have done it 10 Times to Her and Still She is Awkward..Will Leave Mod in Game,even though it Doesn't Work....................................
hay this is just a th ought but wouldn't it make more sense to just pay off the debt for them instead of going through the trouble of mugging them and than paying them back?
I am not sure why it is not working for you guys. I cannot recreate the problem. I am not planning on expanding this mod, but I do at least want it to be bug free! Glad people like the idea. I had to keep it very simple, as I wanted to use voices already in the game (this really limited my options, but oh well).
I have some basic checks to see when you are done with the TG quest. If you are done and have 300g, the dialog option should appear. After going through, the gold should be removed. After this point, I just added checks to the NPC dialog to see if this quest has not been completed. If it has, the TG specific replies should not happen.
Keerava is the "normal" rude lol. Not the post-TG anger.
I had considered adding other quests, but the only other TG quest that makes me feel a LITTLE guilty is the poison in the mead, mainly because the target goes to jail forever, but he does willingly work with shady people, so I did not feel THAT bad.
I think this is a great idea for a mod, and hope you do expand upon it if you have time. I always felt you, the Dovakin, was placed in the position of being a creep and a bully just to advance to the next story line-with no other options. Which is too bad, because there are some fascinating characters inside the Thieves Guild.
Not sure I get the whole point of an active Thieves Guild member amending for behavior conducted towards people that is perfectly in line with roleplaying a Thief. Wouldn't you just be better off role-playing a non-Thief and not willing join the TG in the first place?
I hope you get things ironed out, this is a great idea for a mod. I have always wondered why Bersi would brush it off while the other two never forgave. Even after doing the 'Sealing the Deal' quest for Talen-Jei, neither him or Keerava would forgive you. And the only Bunkhouse quest that I know of only further aggravates Haelga.......And I love characters like Haelga, Maven and Grelka, lol.
I am downloading, giving endorsements and kudos...Looking forward to an update.
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Maybe try reuploading the exact version of the mod that works for you? Also, can you test it and be sure it works for you if installed after completing Taking Care of Business? That was the other thing I considered might be a cause...but I really do think those missing scripts are probably the reason.
I hope you manage to get it working!
Anyway, just trying to understand why a script would show for me, but not others. I didn't select any special mods when I opened the CK. Just the master, update, and this mod.
EDIT: Just checked, there are exactly two mods I have that use effects that need to be scripted that do not have a scripts folder or a BSA file with the ESP: this one, and one other that has had reported problems doing certain things (haven't reached the point in my game yet where I could see it first-hand). So yeah.
Regardless, this is a really good idea. If you can locate and upload those scripts soon, I would be delighted. And it'd be insta-endorse.
It looks like someone made a much deeper Thieves Guild mod since I made this one, but I still prefer to not change the canon quests and just add some personal role play elements, which I feel this does.
I have some basic checks to see when you are done with the TG quest. If you are done and have 300g, the dialog option should appear. After going through, the gold should be removed. After this point, I just added checks to the NPC dialog to see if this quest has not been completed. If it has, the TG specific replies should not happen.
Keerava is the "normal" rude lol. Not the post-TG anger.
I had considered adding other quests, but the only other TG quest that makes me feel a LITTLE guilty is the poison in the mead, mainly because the target goes to jail forever, but he does willingly work with shady people, so I did not feel THAT bad.
I am downloading, giving endorsements and kudos...Looking forward to an update.