Arthmoor answered me about my cyclic load order problem. He says that No Snow Under The Roof shouldn't be loaded before Cutting Room Floor... i re-downloaded your mod and i noticed that wrye bash ask to load it before CRF. I updated load order with TES5Edit. Now your patch load NoSUTR after CRF. Do you think it is correct?
If you look in the file available on your download page you'll notice that it request to load No snow before CRF. I fixed it as you say. https://www.dropbox.com/s/n048rds9n3f6ffi/No%20Snow%20Under%20The%20Roof%20-%20CRF%20Patch.esp?dl=0
I see what you mean. The file header of my patch shows the masters in a different order (it's because iv'e flagged the esp of NSUtR as ESM, to work with it in the CK. But this isn't a problem at all, and not a problem of "cyclic load order". I use the same patch and loot sorts my plug-ins fine. In most cases, as I know, loot gives you "cyclic load order" errors when the rule(s) which are set to sort the plug-ins are wrong, not if an plug-in request specific masters (that's what the file header says). You can also get "cyclic load order" infos when an esp is flagged as esm. Loot can't sort the load properly then and you get this error.
The load order problem succeded when i saw with wrye bash that the patch requested a different load order and then i added a rule to sort NSUtR before CRF. Now i fixed the load order with TES5Edit and i load CRF then NSUtR, and NSUtR patch.
It would be better if you fix the masters load order because if an user look in Wrye bash (and it is very comfortable using it to verify that LOOT ordered everithing fine) there he see this incorrect indication and (as i did) adds wrong rules in loot generating this error. Thanks again for the help.
This patch has numerous errors. I was trying to use it in SSE but every time I checked it in either SSEdit or Merged Plugins it mentions it has over a dozen errors. Is this possible to be fixed please? Or was this already ported to SSE?
Here is the report
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Filename: No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp Hash: 21BA28DD File size: 49.46 KB Date modified: 6/11/2019 7:50:24 PM Merge rating: No rating Flags[0]: [E] Has errors Number of records: 36 Number of overrides: 6 Author: SkyrimFantom Description: Masters[0]: Skyrim.esm Masters[1]: Update.esm Masters[2]: Dawnguard.esm Masters[3]: HearthFires.esm Masters[4]: Dragonborn.esm Masters[5]: Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Errors[0]: [REFR:7A00590F] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior02 [CELL:00009395] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,16)) Errors[1]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[2]: [REFR:7A030A6C] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior02 [CELL:00009395] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,16)) Errors[3]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[4]: [REFR:7A005910] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15)) Errors[5]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[6]: [REFR:7A0A1668] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15)) Errors[7]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[8]: [REFR:7A014247] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15)) Errors[9]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[10]: [REFR:7A0A1667] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15)) Errors[11]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[12]: [REFR:7A005903] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:0000907B] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 18,10)) Errors[13]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[14]: [REFR:7A02D153] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:0000907B] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 18,10)) Errors[15]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[16]: [REFR:7A005907] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11)) Errors[17]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[18]: [REFR:7A005905] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11)) Errors[19]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[20]: [REFR:7A02D156] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11)) Errors[21]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[22]: [REFR:7A02D154] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11)) Errors[23]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Errors[24]: [REFR:7A02D152] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior03 [CELL:0000905C] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 18,11)) Errors[25]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP Reports:
Great! I've been using for a while and not had any issues. Would you mind porting the mod page over to SE Nexus? It's easier to track SE mods on there that's all.
As you already created a patch for No Snow under the Roof, i would like to ask how much work would it be, to make a patch for this and Enhanced Landscape Winter Edition? I would gladly work on such a patch, but I would need some help on how to do such a patch, as I am not really into creating mods myself. I would appreciate if someone who allready worked with No Snow under the roof could give me an introduction for working with it.
Should anyone be interested in helping me with such a patch, please contact me.
I'm having a Cyclic interaction in load order between Expanded Towns and Cities, No snow under the roof and Cutting Room Floor... I have the last version of all and Expanded Towns and Cities Complete...(i'm italian and this version is already translated ...i do not want to spend hours with TesVTranslator...) I'm using ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp and No Snow Under the Roof - CRF Patch.esp Here is a screen of the problem: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc60fo7kggmqrqg/cyclic%20interaction.jpg?dl=0 Is there someone that have resolved it? I need help...this time i really do not know what to do Thanks!
There is only one record you've to change into your native language. The patch should not conflict with any other mod but CRF. So you should better ask in the forums to get more help with your problem.
Thanks for the help. Here i explain a bit better the problem: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2543629-cyclic-interaction-in-load-order-between-expanded-towns-and-cities-no-snow-under-the-roof-and-cutting-room-floor/
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Cutting Room Floor
No Snow Under the Roof
No Snow Under the Roof - CRF Patch
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n048rds9n3f6ffi/No%20Snow%20Under%20The%20Roof%20-%20CRF%20Patch.esp?dl=0
Thanks again for the help.
Here is the report
Hash: 21BA28DD
File size: 49.46 KB
Date modified: 6/11/2019 7:50:24 PM
Merge rating: No rating
Flags[0]: [E] Has errors
Number of records: 36
Number of overrides: 6
Author: SkyrimFantom
Description:
Masters[0]: Skyrim.esm
Masters[1]: Update.esm
Masters[2]: Dawnguard.esm
Masters[3]: HearthFires.esm
Masters[4]: Dragonborn.esm
Masters[5]: Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Errors[0]: [REFR:7A00590F] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior02 [CELL:00009395] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,16))
Errors[1]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[2]: [REFR:7A030A6C] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior02 [CELL:00009395] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,16))
Errors[3]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[4]: [REFR:7A005910] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15))
Errors[5]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[6]: [REFR:7A0A1668] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15))
Errors[7]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[8]: [REFR:7A014247] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15))
Errors[9]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[10]: [REFR:7A0A1667] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of StonehillsExterior01 [CELL:000093B6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -2,15))
Errors[11]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[12]: [REFR:7A005903] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:0000907B] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 18,10))
Errors[13]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[14]: [REFR:7A02D153] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:0000907B] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 18,10))
Errors[15]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[16]: [REFR:7A005907] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11))
Errors[17]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[18]: [REFR:7A005905] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11))
Errors[19]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[20]: [REFR:7A02D156] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11))
Errors[21]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[22]: [REFR:7A02D154] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior01 [CELL:0000905D] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,11))
Errors[23]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Errors[24]: [REFR:7A02D152] (places NULL - Null Reference [00000000] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of NightgateInnExterior03 [CELL:0000905C] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 18,11))
Errors[25]:REFR \ NAME - Base -> Found a NULL reference, expected: ACTI,ADDN,ALCH,AMMO,APPA,ARMA,ARMO,ARTO,ASPC,BOOK,CONT,DOOR,FLOR,FURN,GRAS,IDLM,INGR,KEYM,LIGH,LVLC,LVLN,MISC,MSTT,SCRL,SLGM,SNDR,SOUN,SPEL,STAT,TACT,TREE,TXST,WEAP
Reports:
- "Talib's unfinished house in Stonehills that was accidentally left in with 2.0.1 has been completed and he now lives in it."
Thank you for the update.
EDIT: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74021
I would appreciate if someone who allready worked with No Snow under the roof could give me an introduction for working with it.
Should anyone be interested in helping me with such a patch, please contact me.
Should this worj with the latest CRF, as well?
Thanks!
I have the last version of all and Expanded Towns and Cities Complete...(i'm italian and this version is already translated ...i do not want to spend hours with TesVTranslator...)
I'm using ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp and No Snow Under the Roof - CRF Patch.esp
Here is a screen of the problem:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zc60fo7kggmqrqg/cyclic%20interaction.jpg?dl=0
Is there someone that have resolved it?
I need help...this time i really do not know what to do
Thanks!
http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2543629-cyclic-interaction-in-load-order-between-expanded-towns-and-cities-no-snow-under-the-roof-and-cutting-room-floor/