Fixed an issue with Miraak's custom AI not working while he is a follower. = more on this later...
There will now be more time in-between "assassin" spawns. = When I implemented the feature a long time ago, was in a "I shall not fast travel phase". With fast travel, they do spawn just a bit too frequently so I fixed that.
So, after many months I am back in Skyrim. Hopefully for a decent amount of time. Anyways, when moving my Skyrim files over to a new hard drive, I noticed that Miraak's custom Shout AI did not seem to work. At first I thought it was a conflict or missing files but it seemed to be a problem with the mod itself. It has hopefully been resolved. If there are any other bugs, please reply to this post. I will be reading my PMs and the other posts as soon as I recover from the guilt of leaving in a pretty big bug for several months
I love your mod. miraak is my number 1 follower. He is basically my damage dealer.Great follower.
There are a few bugs regarding the actual quest, but those bugs have been talked about and resolved regarding the skal village.
However I will say one thing that I have noticed about his combat. Sometimes when he is using lighting, sometimes it bugs out. Let me explain, he uses lighting and it hits 1 location, for example a rock. Then a creature pops up and he attemps to hit the creature, however the lighting gets redirected and just hits the rock instead. So he keeps on using lighting to hit the creature but it just hits the rock so he misses every time.
What are you plans for the future of the mod? Is it basically complete?
I don't know if its possible but it would be cool to have miraak become more powerful and learn new shouts as he levels up. I gave him Draconic dragon aspect and thats an awesome synergy to your mod. It makes him actually better in combat.
I think he is way better in close to close combat. Unless you give him some perks that makes his lighting better. I would just prefer him to shout with ice and go in for the kill like he normally does. However, this could be fixed if he had something (gear) that leveled increasing his shout strengh.
All my thoughts are from using your mod for HOURS AND HOURS of play time. I think I have used your mod for at least 100 hours of playtime. Basically your mod is my go to follower. Because he is strong enough to not suck during the late game. I use a lot of mods that increase combat difficulty. I also use Miraak's gear overhaul, which for me makes sense because all his gear then synergies.
Side note - I completely disabled the assassin spawns. They were so annoying fast traveling to whiterun, to have 5 assassin spawn with you and have everyone die, including miraak lol. Thank you for your fix.
Last edit: I am unsure if your 1.7 updated fixes this, but my opinion is based on the 1.6 update. Miraak never uses bend will, miraak dragon shout, and Become Ethereal. Throughout all the hours I have had miraak as a follower I have never seen him do this.
He normally starts off using dragon aspect to begin with. Then he normally starts to blast lighting. Then he uses either ice shout or cyclone. Then he closes in and gets one v one. Even when he is about to die he doesn't use become ethereal or his dragon shout.
BTW his dragon shout does not CTD my game. I have seen other uses complain about this. I think it probably has to do with there game. I use it all the time myself, amazing addition. However he doesn't use it.
The only other thing i wish he had baked in is disarm shout and the perk seeker of might.
I use follower extensive framework> i can view mirak's shouts and magic perks.However, most of his shouts look correct but a few of them look all weird and bugged out. - Maybe that's why he doesn't use them. I don't know.
Edit: I can confirm now that with 1.7 Miraak uses other shouts. I seen him use Ethereal and Unrelenting force which he never did before. So now he is even better!
Edit again: First time I see him use bend will! and make a crazy cultist! So Yeah previously 1.6v was broken. 1.7 its all fixed.
Is this mod compatible with amazing follower tweaks? It seems to be working ok but Miraak has lost his clothes and everytime I give him a new set he losses that too.
has this latest update fixed the bug in the quest "at the summit of apocrypha" where the altar with the big black book does not show up? also does it fix door blocking the way to the word wall and the serpentine dragon in the quest?
@quickkill2021 Do you run many other mods, in particular dragon mods? I have the CTD problem with the call dragons shout and I'm trying to get it working.
I most certainly do have a ton of mods. I got like 254 esps. I believe I am basically maxed.
For mods that may impact miraak. I run 1. Thunderchild. 2. Dragon combat overhaul 3. Deadly Dragons 4. More Draconic dragon Aspect 4. Real flying / plus the patch to work with dragon aspect. 4. Perkus Maximus. 5. ASIS
I think its important to first update to 1.7v That did fix Miraak's AI. Even though now I think he is more mage like and less sword to sword combat orientated now.
Some suggestions if you have not done so anyway. 1. ensure you have a bash patch for your level lists. 2. Ensure you have a merged patch via Tes5edit. 3. Make sure You have created the memory fix for SKSE. 4. make sure you run loot.
Make sure you do the merged patch, then the bash bash, then if you run perkus run that, then asis last.
These are some suggestions. I really don't think there is an issue with miraak's dragon shout. In fact I have seen him do it. Its very rare though. If i had to make a change I would like this dragon helpers to have a more uncapped level.
Im having a problem. When i go and use the bend will shout on miraak and after i kill some of Mora's minions my game starts to freeze up. every freeze is about 30 seconds long but most of the time is only happens when i try to quicksave or the game autosaves. If i load the saves again it tells me that the file is corrupt.
Does anybody else have this problem and if so does anybody know how to fix it?
My only issue is the dragon shout. Always ctd after i speak the 2nd word. I also have thunderchild and chaos dragon mods. I can think of anything else to conflict and inhave this mode loading as the hogher priority, lowest, before the other...first. how ever which way to put it. But everything else seems to work hunkie dory.
well i have the same problem so can you please explain me in more detail My guess is that i need to download FNIS http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11811/? AND THIS is the part where i get confused...so the mirak mod needs to be at the bottom of my load order? Or what? :/
I played this mod with 4 different characters and noticed similarities in occuring bugs during the Apocrypha fight.
First is vital, save before fight starts. Some little thing may fail and boom, no decent ending.
Second - don't bother deal any damage to Miraak, just shout Bend Will. If your char is speedy enough, he'll never manage to damage you too hard. Once Sahrotaar managed to almost kill Miraak, while he was bothering with burning my char's head off I noticed, that if Miraak starts that soul stealing sequence, when he kills his own dragins to aid himself, there is no way to reach the positive end this mod offers. So I even used "disable" console command on Sahrotaar once.
Third - when you succesfully eneded Bend Will sequence and got yourself a Dragonborn buddy, it's only the part of path. When Hermeus Mora's minions start to attack, kill all of them old-fashioned way - sword, bow, destruction spells. DO NOT Wabbajack them, and do not make them fall off from Summit, I had to replay the whole Chapter VI because I used Wabbajack and made some of them disappear (or so I think)))
Hope this will help. I playthroughed the last 2 times with 2 different characters and mod configs following these rules and all went well.
would you ever be willing to add more story for this mod? it's really to bad we couldn't witness miraak's plan on solstheim. i have the feeling it could have been much more epic. like the story behind all the dragon bones all around miraak's temple. but i don't know if the dialogue would support it.
As much as I would like to have a comment from Miraak to every location and occasion, the whole dialogue introduced in game is very limited. The author made an extremely awesome job with combining it as it is, so the result dialogue is full with hilarios moments (the marriage sequence, oh my :'D ) and as far as I know, only the phrases from soul stealing replics was left unused (and they do not give many material to work with either). Still, I hope that author won't leave the mod ^_^ Personally I like to see the option to let Miraak absorb dragon souls too. I feel unfair when he kills a dragon, but that is my char, who gets the soul.
i love this mod. but it still uses the vanilla scripting that glitches out most of the time i have a playthrough.
i mostly run into that damn glitch where he runs away into the pool in the middle of the room and doesn't respond till you have to use console commands. i still think that was the stupidest scripting for a boss fight. it would have been better if he used a shout that made 3 mirrors of himself that would attack you while he stole his dragons soul's to regain his strength and you are stuck fighting these mirror images of him that are not as strong as the real miraak. but because he only has two dragon followers so he can only do this tactic twice so it's not overpowered. it would have also been cool if the platform you were on had walls that would suddenly come up out of the ground making it hard for you to simply ignore the mirror copies and head straight for the real miraak and one shot him. kinda like a maze of walls towering over the dovakin's head that would knock the dovakin on his ass for a second. like does this not sound like a badass battle that could have been? im sure with the games actual assets this could be done. especially within apocrypha with all those moving platforms.
The dragon calls that Miraak teaches me is the only thing about this mod that CTDs my Skyrim. I just treat the shout as a way to quickly exit the game without saving. Ha!
Everything works fine for me. Can I make a russian translation of this mod and upload it to other sites like modgames(dot)net (for example) for russian skyrim community? Ofc with credit that you are creator of this awesome mod.
This is a great mod! I love Miraak as my follower, however...
I'm having a bug with Miraak, I was hoping update would fix it by sadly it did not.
When I tell Miraak to wait he just ignores it and follows me around anyway and I can't dismiss him. I know this bug is listed in description along with possible solution, but the follower compatibility mod doesn't work for me. I can order Miraak to wait through 'I need you to do something' but then he won't follow me again.
I'm using UFO and follower compatibility as the only follower-overhauling/patching mods
I'm using some other non-vanilla followers but those work just fine
I tried to play a little with the load order, tried to search for some other solutions on the internet--->nothing
The final black book doesn't appear (At the summit of apocrypha)--- Though I'm not sure if it's the mod's fault Since I didn't kill Miraak and made him my follower, the Skaal village people don't talk to me. They give generic lines like, "these are dark times" (the speech given when their leader dies) This makes it impossible to start the quests for Stalhrim armor and other stuff..... Please fix this issue
Hello, do you still recommend this mod? I want to download it but hesitating because of the CTD comments. I don't know how to use TS5edit and suffered from CTD several times in the past so I'm a little bit scared lol. Oh and I already have 3 followers (Inigo, Auri and Lucien) so do I have to download a follower mod to recruit Miraak?
This mod looks amazing :D I would love to play with it but, whenever it's enabled Skyrim won't launch. I have LOOT that sorts my mods but it doesn't seem to help, I'm not sure if there's another mod I have that's conflicting with it or something else entirely. I'm new to modding so any help is appreciated. Have a lovely day everyone! :)
I am having a problem with the last part of the quest, where the black book altar does not rise up... I am really not sure what to do now because I really want the reset skill function of the book. Furthermore Frea and the skaal does not seem to be recognizing that Miraak is finally gone after i used the black book to somehow force exit out of apocrypha...
i CTD when i tried to use that dragon shout Miraak teaches me. i noticed in the comments a lot of people are having that same problem. just curious as to why it hasn't been fixed yet.
I have a question if there is an option to marry him in the follower mod, because I have a problem and I don't know now, after I downloaded: Expansion and Romance add-on for Miraak Follower Dialogue Overhaul.7z does not respond to Mara amulet ?
Is this mod compatible with any multiple follower mods or does it have its own framework?
I used EFF and the mod doesn't register him and trying to force recruit him is not recommended as i began to experience CTDs.
I'm currently switching to Nethers Follower Framework and the mod does immediately register him unlike Serana or any ustom followers but i'm not sure if they're compatible. Tried purging him but that makes me unable to recruit him again
Hey i want to ask something, the mod works fine but only one thing, the blue whirl on miraak body that don't disappear, even though i use the command "disable/enable" it still the same. Is there any way to fix this?
Not sure what's happening here but every time I enter the temple of mara in riften it fails the marriage quest and Miraak starts attacking people? not sure what ive done but i would love some help
Hi guys! I'm having a huge issue with the Miraak follower mod.
So I finished the Dragonborn questline, but it kept crashing my game. I decided to take it out, but the crashes kept happening. I'm not entirely sure what's causing it, but I tried the following fixes and nothing worked: - tried deleting Miraak's armor from my inventory with the console command (some things could not be deleted) - tried selling Miraak's armor - removed both the Miraak replacer AND the follower mod
I cannot for the life of me get Miraak to follow me. I have him as a follower, but he won't actually follow me or leave buildings I bring him in. I've re-installed the mod, tried resetting his AI, turned off sandbox, dismissed and re-hired him, but all he wants to do is play with Glover Mallory's forge or stand and eat bread. Does anyone know how to fix this? I'd appreciate any advice.
**Ended up fixing it by re-loading my save, turning off sandboxing and resetting his AI again.
I have come forward ladies and gents with a fix (Somehow), on how to make the big black pillar book-thing at the quest "At the Summit of Apocrypha" after countless tries, all I did first is to first start a new game with this mod not loaded in, and when your finally past the sequence of Helgen, probably just about the keep when Hadvar or Ralof cuts ur binds, just load the mod back in. Thats how I did it (Don't ask me how it works, it just works)
When you now proceed at the aformentioned quest, the altar-pedestal thing will now work (This worked at the type of ending where u make Miraak as a follower of course, i dunno about the one killing him and getting impaled by tentacles)
Dude, holy christ your solution actually worked perfectly. I've been agonizing for three days as to how do i get that fucking altar to rise up, console commands and everything, but then i tried out your method and it worked like a charm.
Not gonna lie, this is the second obnoxious, gamebreaking bug i encountered when i played through the game, the first and THE worst, literal gamebreaking one being the Soul cairn quest called Impatience of a Saint, and i s#*! you not it causes me C++ errors until i completed that damn quest. So yea, thanks alot man, you saved me from an already immense headache.
Also yes, i tested this fix and it works both for getting Miraak as a follower and when he's impaled by tentacle. And just as a heads up, this fix also works with Optional Quick Start mod by Arvyn10, which instead of going through the whole Helgen sequence you start near the cave exit.
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So, after many months I am back in Skyrim. Hopefully for a decent amount of time. Anyways, when moving my Skyrim files over to a new hard drive, I noticed that Miraak's custom Shout AI did not seem to work. At first I thought it was a conflict or missing files but it seemed to be a problem with the mod itself. It has hopefully been resolved. If there are any other bugs, please reply to this post. I will be reading my PMs and the other posts as soon as I recover from the guilt of leaving in a pretty big bug for several months
I love your mod. miraak is my number 1 follower. He is basically my damage dealer.Great follower.
There are a few bugs regarding the actual quest, but those bugs have been talked about and resolved regarding the skal village.
However I will say one thing that I have noticed about his combat. Sometimes when he is using lighting, sometimes it bugs out. Let me explain, he uses lighting and it hits 1 location, for example a rock. Then a creature pops up and he attemps to hit the creature, however the lighting gets redirected and just hits the rock instead. So he keeps on using lighting to hit the creature but it just hits the rock so he misses every time.
What are you plans for the future of the mod? Is it basically complete?
I don't know if its possible but it would be cool to have miraak become more powerful and learn new shouts as he levels up. I gave him Draconic dragon aspect and thats an awesome synergy to your mod. It makes him actually better in combat.
I think he is way better in close to close combat. Unless you give him some perks that makes his lighting better. I would just prefer him to shout with ice and go in for the kill like he normally does. However, this could be fixed if he had something (gear) that leveled increasing his shout strengh.
All my thoughts are from using your mod for HOURS AND HOURS of play time. I think I have used your mod for at least 100 hours of playtime. Basically your mod is my go to follower. Because he is strong enough to not suck during the late game. I use a lot of mods that increase combat difficulty. I also use Miraak's gear overhaul, which for me makes sense because all his gear then synergies.
Side note - I completely disabled the assassin spawns. They were so annoying fast traveling to whiterun, to have 5 assassin spawn with you and have everyone die, including miraak lol. Thank you for your fix.
Last edit: I am unsure if your 1.7 updated fixes this, but my opinion is based on the 1.6 update. Miraak never uses bend will, miraak dragon shout, and Become Ethereal. Throughout all the hours I have had miraak as a follower I have never seen him do this.
He normally starts off using dragon aspect to begin with. Then he normally starts to blast lighting. Then he uses either ice shout or cyclone. Then he closes in and gets one v one. Even when he is about to die he doesn't use become ethereal or his dragon shout.
BTW his dragon shout does not CTD my game. I have seen other uses complain about this. I think it probably has to do with there game. I use it all the time myself, amazing addition. However he doesn't use it.
The only other thing i wish he had baked in is disarm shout and the perk seeker of might.
I use follower extensive framework> i can view mirak's shouts and magic perks.However, most of his shouts look correct but a few of them look all weird and bugged out. - Maybe that's why he doesn't use them. I don't know.
Edit:
I can confirm now that with 1.7 Miraak uses other shouts. I seen him use Ethereal and Unrelenting force which he never did before. So now he is even better!
Edit again:
First time I see him use bend will! and make a crazy cultist! So Yeah previously 1.6v was broken. 1.7 its all fixed.
Anyway thank you! Your mod is great!
has this latest update fixed the bug
in the quest "at the summit of apocrypha" where the
altar with the big black book does not show up?
also does it fix door blocking the way to the word wall and the serpentine dragon in the quest?
For mods that may impact miraak.
I run
1. Thunderchild.
2. Dragon combat overhaul
3. Deadly Dragons
4. More Draconic dragon Aspect
4. Real flying / plus the patch to work with dragon aspect.
4. Perkus Maximus.
5. ASIS
I think its important to first update to 1.7v That did fix Miraak's AI. Even though now I think he is more mage like and less sword to sword combat orientated now.
Some suggestions if you have not done so anyway.
1. ensure you have a bash patch for your level lists.
2. Ensure you have a merged patch via Tes5edit.
3. Make sure You have created the memory fix for SKSE.
4. make sure you run loot.
Make sure you do the merged patch, then the bash bash, then if you run perkus run that, then asis last.
These are some suggestions. I really don't think there is an issue with miraak's dragon shout. In fact I have seen him do it. Its very rare though. If i had to make a change I would like this dragon helpers to have a more uncapped level.
Does anybody else have this problem and if so does anybody know how to fix it?
My guess is that i need to download FNIS http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11811/? AND THIS is the part where i get confused...so the mirak mod needs to be at the bottom of my load order? Or what? :/
First is vital, save before fight starts. Some little thing may fail and boom, no decent ending.
Second - don't bother deal any damage to Miraak, just shout Bend Will. If your char is speedy enough, he'll never manage to damage you too hard. Once Sahrotaar managed to almost kill Miraak, while he was bothering with burning my char's head off
Third - when you succesfully eneded Bend Will sequence and got yourself a Dragonborn buddy, it's only the part of path. When Hermeus Mora's minions start to attack, kill all of them old-fashioned way - sword, bow, destruction spells. DO NOT Wabbajack them, and do not make them fall off from Summit, I had to replay the whole Chapter VI because I used Wabbajack and made some of them disappear (or so I think)))
Hope this will help. I playthroughed the last 2 times with 2 different characters and mod configs following these rules and all went well.
Still, I hope that author won't leave the mod ^_^ Personally I like to see the option to let Miraak absorb dragon souls too. I feel unfair when he kills a dragon, but that is my char, who gets the soul.
i mostly run into that damn glitch where he runs away into the pool in the middle of the room and doesn't respond till you have to use console commands. i still think that was the stupidest scripting for a boss fight. it would have been better if he used a shout that made 3 mirrors of himself that would attack you while he stole his dragons soul's to regain his strength and you are stuck fighting these mirror images of him that are not as strong as the real miraak. but because he only has two dragon followers so he can only do this tactic twice so it's not overpowered. it would have also been cool if the platform you were on had walls that would suddenly come up out of the ground making it hard for you to simply ignore the mirror copies and head straight for the real miraak and one shot him. kinda like a maze of walls towering over the dovakin's head that would knock the dovakin on his ass for a second. like does this not sound like a badass battle that could have been? im sure with the games actual assets this could be done. especially within apocrypha with all those moving platforms.
Ofc with credit that you are creator of this awesome mod.
This is a great mod! I love Miraak as my follower, however...
I'm having a bug with Miraak, I was hoping update would fix it by sadly it did not.
When I tell Miraak to wait he just ignores it and follows me around anyway and I can't dismiss him. I know this bug is listed in description along with possible solution, but the follower compatibility mod doesn't work for me. I can order Miraak to wait through 'I need you to do something' but then he won't follow me again.
I'm using UFO and follower compatibility as the only follower-overhauling/patching mods
I'm using some other non-vanilla followers but those work just fine
I tried to play a little with the load order, tried to search for some other solutions on the internet--->nothing
Help greatly appreciated
Since I didn't kill Miraak and made him my follower, the Skaal village people don't talk to me.
They give generic lines like, "these are dark times" (the speech given when their leader dies)
This makes it impossible to start the quests for Stalhrim armor and other stuff.....
Please fix this issue
use TES5Edit to Clean the mod and TES5Edit Remove a Dirty edits
I used EFF and the mod doesn't register him and trying to force recruit him is not recommended as i began to experience CTDs.
I'm currently switching to Nethers Follower Framework and the mod does immediately register him unlike Serana or any ustom followers but i'm not sure if they're compatible. Tried purging him but that makes me unable to recruit him again
So I finished the Dragonborn questline, but it kept crashing my game. I
decided to take it out, but the crashes kept happening. I'm not entirely
sure what's causing it, but I tried the following fixes and nothing
worked:
- tried deleting Miraak's armor from my inventory with the console command (some things could not be deleted)
- tried selling Miraak's armor
- removed both the Miraak replacer AND the follower mod
Here was my mod list prior to removing the mod. Here you go: https://pastebin.com/Wu5zWFGE
**Ended up fixing it by re-loading my save, turning off sandboxing and resetting his AI again.
Not gonna lie, this is the second obnoxious, gamebreaking bug i encountered when i played through the game, the first and THE worst, literal gamebreaking one being the Soul cairn quest called Impatience of a Saint, and i s#*! you not it causes me C++ errors until i completed that damn quest. So yea, thanks alot man, you saved me from an already immense headache.
Also yes, i tested this fix and it works both for getting Miraak as a follower and when he's impaled by tentacle. And just as a heads up, this fix also works with Optional Quick Start mod by Arvyn10, which instead of going through the whole Helgen sequence you start near the cave exit.