Thank you so much for making this mod! I wonder, if I deleted the AI packages for Whiterun and the Faction for Dragonsreach, would I then be able to change her location? I know how to delete and npc location from TESVedit but when I tried it with her she was still showing up only there and not my new place.
My current project is to turn the NPC Erandur into a healer.
I thought it might be enough to change "CompanionHealer" to "Erandur" in the HealerWhiteMageQuest alias page. I tried, but Erandur didn't show any inclination to heal me. (I also found a couple of "relationship" entries that referenced to CompanionHealer. I switched them to Erandur too.) Oh well ...
Am I at least on the right track??
Also: Is there any chance that Amazing Follower Tweaks is going to mess things up?
When I tried playing with Magoza, she actually seemed more interested in hitting people with her mace than in healing anyone ...
In combat, Magoza will engage in melee combat until she needs to heal anyone. Changing the alias in the healer quest should be enough to allow somebody else to heal you, though Erandur's magicka is always fixed at 50 due to his awful class (Priest), so you should change it into one that can afford the magicka loss (either by duplicating Erandur's class and changing it to give more than 0 magicka or by changing the class to the one I used for Magoza), or else he won't be able to use any healing spell other than the most basic one. I use Magoza along with Amazing Follower Tweaks, and there don't appear to be issues associated with their combination.
I'm here from reddit, where I posted a question about giving followers the ability to heal the PC a couple days back. Thanks again for directing me here!
I've downloaded your mod and spent a few hours trying to get my head around what's going on. One thing I'm clear about: So THAT'S why there aren't any youtube tutorials for this! ("CK Newbies: Make your follower a healer in 5 simple steps!" isn't going to happen!)
As a modder, I'm a compelte n00b and my only knowledge of programming/scripting languages goes back to the basic I learned when I was 11 and a simple key macro programming code I learned to use as a teenager in the late 80s! So maybe this is simply beyond me, but durned if I'm not gonna try to figure it out!
As far as I can tell, there are several building blocks in here. Since I want to understand what's going on, can you tell me whether I've got this right?
- First, as your description says, there's nothing particularly special about actor CompanionHealer/Magoza herself. She's just a generic orc lady with a super-friendly-to-me disposition, relatively high magic and a sandbox that keeps her traipsing around the entrance to Dragonsreach. I think she has some fairly standard follower package to.
- The thing that turns her into a healing machine seems to be a quest: HealerWhiteMageQuest. If I understand correctly, having the Magoza mod in the game automatically initiates this quest. (As a result, I'm guessing that Magoza would heal my party and me even without recruiting her - but only as long as we are close enough to her. Making her a follower just keeps her in range.)
Anyway, this isn't a quest of the "Go Kill Draugers and Help Skyrim" variety - no stages, no objectives, njet. As long as the mod is loaded, (follower or not) gestage returns 0.00. But that means (I think) that the quest IS already running.
I think what it doers is this: It use the alias page to give CompanionHealer/Magoza a set of AI packages and Papyrus Scripts. I'm not at all clear about how this works, but as far as I can tell, the quest does the following: 1) It gives her two generic healing spells. (Not terribly important, I don't think.) 2) It applies two central scripts to Magoza (LooksForTarget and WMSpellCost) Very important, I think. 3) It gives her five NEW AI packages. Also very important, I think.
I'm guessing that the two scripts in (2) do the following: One of them feeds her data about the hostility and health of several people in her general vicinity; the other one provides a generally applicable means of calculating how much manna her special spells are going to cost.
It looks like the AI packages in (3) give Magoza several different possibilities, presumably dependent on her current level and available manna. (There are a few AI packages that aren't being used, I notice!)
For their part, the AI packages cause Magoza to use different kinds of specialized healing spells - one for each package. In turn, each spell, triggers a set of magic effects designed to make either my other followers or myself a generally happier and healthier person.
So ... um ... have I at least understood - in very general terms! - what the mod actually does??
if I may ask, how do you use these scripts? lets say I create a follower and I want to implement these scripts to make that follower a healer, how is that done?
First, you'll need a BSA extractor to get the source files from. The LookForTarget script should be added to an alias that points to the character you want to become a healer. This will allow them to 'search' their current area for people to heal. Use the packages that are similar to the ones on the alias (WhiteMage) in my .esp (the quest is HealerWhiteMageQuest) to allow the follower to actually heal. The package should be rigged with updates every few seconds to allow 'EvaluatePackage()' to quickly set off, allowing the follower to get back into the action. These are the basics, at least. Reverse engineering my method would probably help you get a better understanding than I could in words, since I'm not always that good at explaining things.
I decided to omit cure disease since it may end up being annoying if one is trying to contract Sanguinare Vampiris. As for cure poison, not yet. That is something I'll look into soon, however.
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My current project is to turn the NPC Erandur into a healer.
I thought it might be enough to change "CompanionHealer" to "Erandur" in the HealerWhiteMageQuest alias page. I tried, but Erandur didn't show any inclination to heal me. (I also found a couple of "relationship" entries that referenced to CompanionHealer. I switched them to Erandur too.) Oh well ...
Am I at least on the right track??
Also: Is there any chance that Amazing Follower Tweaks is going to mess things up?
When I tried playing with Magoza, she actually seemed more interested in hitting people with her mace than in healing anyone ...
Changing the alias in the healer quest should be enough to allow somebody else to heal you, though Erandur's magicka is always fixed at 50 due to his awful class (Priest), so you should change it into one that can afford the magicka loss (either by duplicating Erandur's class and changing it to give more than 0 magicka or by changing the class to the one I used for Magoza), or else he won't be able to use any healing spell other than the most basic one.
I use Magoza along with Amazing Follower Tweaks, and there don't appear to be issues associated with their combination.
I'm here from reddit, where I posted a question about giving followers the ability to heal the PC a couple days back. Thanks again for directing me here!
I've downloaded your mod and spent a few hours trying to get my head around what's going on. One thing I'm clear about: So THAT'S why there aren't any youtube tutorials for this! ("CK Newbies: Make your follower a healer in 5 simple steps!" isn't going to happen!)
As a modder, I'm a compelte n00b and my only knowledge of programming/scripting languages goes back to the basic I learned when I was 11 and a simple key macro programming code I learned to use as a teenager in the late 80s! So maybe this is simply beyond me, but durned if I'm not gonna try to figure it out!
As far as I can tell, there are several building blocks in here. Since I want to understand what's going on, can you tell me whether I've got this right?
- First, as your description says, there's nothing particularly special about actor CompanionHealer/Magoza herself. She's just a generic orc lady with a super-friendly-to-me disposition, relatively high magic and a sandbox that keeps her traipsing around the entrance to Dragonsreach. I think she has some fairly standard follower package to.
- The thing that turns her into a healing machine seems to be a quest: HealerWhiteMageQuest. If I understand correctly, having the Magoza mod in the game automatically initiates this quest. (As a result, I'm guessing that Magoza would heal my party and me even without recruiting her - but only as long as we are close enough to her. Making her a follower just keeps her in range.)
Anyway, this isn't a quest of the "Go Kill Draugers and Help Skyrim" variety - no stages, no objectives, njet. As long as the mod is loaded, (follower or not) gestage returns 0.00. But that means (I think) that the quest IS already running.
I think what it doers is this: It use the alias page to give CompanionHealer/Magoza a set of AI packages and Papyrus Scripts. I'm not at all clear about how this works, but as far as I can tell, the quest does the following:
1) It gives her two generic healing spells. (Not terribly important, I don't think.)
2) It applies two central scripts to Magoza (LooksForTarget and WMSpellCost) Very important, I think.
3) It gives her five NEW AI packages. Also very important, I think.
I'm guessing that the two scripts in (2) do the following: One of them feeds her data about the hostility and health of several people in her general vicinity; the other one provides a generally applicable means of calculating how much manna her special spells are going to cost.
It looks like the AI packages in (3) give Magoza several different possibilities, presumably dependent on her current level and available manna. (There are a few AI packages that aren't being used, I notice!)
For their part, the AI packages cause Magoza to use different kinds of specialized healing spells - one for each package. In turn, each spell, triggers a set of magic effects designed to make either my other followers or myself a generally happier and healthier person.
So ... um ... have I at least understood - in very general terms! - what the mod actually does??
The LookForTarget script should be added to an alias that points to the character you want to become a healer. This will allow them to 'search' their current area for people to heal. Use the packages that are similar to the ones on the alias (WhiteMage) in my .esp (the quest is HealerWhiteMageQuest) to allow the follower to actually heal. The package should be rigged with updates every few seconds to allow 'EvaluatePackage()' to quickly set off, allowing the follower to get back into the action. These are the basics, at least. Reverse engineering my method would probably help you get a better understanding than I could in words, since I'm not always that good at explaining things.
As for cure poison, not yet. That is something I'll look into soon, however.