Because there have been multiple Champions of Cyrodill in the other Elder scrolls games, you would have no idea which Champion of Cyrodill the book is referencing him to.
The Morrowind character is called the neveraine The Oblivion character is called The Hero of Kvatch The Skyrim character is Called The Dragonborn (or Dovahkiin)
Grinningbarrett, i Belive youre correct, apparently calfurius is new to the series though, i myself played morrowing then oblivion both was extramly good, then skyrim wich is the worst in the series but still good with mods.
The story of each new game basically follows that the previous game's hero did everything that could possibly be done with the game and added dlc. As a clear example, the Tribunal are all dead, since in Morrowind GOTY, Sotha Sil is killed and the player kills Almalexia. I've never played Daggerfall, but from what I understand there are two possible endings to the main quest (something I'd like to see offered again, personally), and that is what led to what is referred to in Morrowind and all games afterward as the Warp in the West (obviously this hasn't happened as of ESO, since ESO is set about 800 years before Daggerfall). The Warp in the West, as TES lore holds, was basically a divine intervention that allowed two possible scenarios to coexist in reality, causing a lot of strange and contradictory things to happen. But the game developers have done a really great job of following what the hero they imagined is likely to have done.
Eh'. Personally, I wrote my own short story ending for my character. I also used other characters I made in it. I'm a geek like that. I used a fantasy game to create a fantasy story in my head, while I played said fantasy game.
This is what happens when you have no life my friends.
fact 1: sheogorath's new hair style is like the basic hair cut you get if you take the first character the game presents to you at the start of oblivion (referring to the basic imperial you got in the game)
fact 2: the new sheogorath has no deadric prince eyes but just white eyes as if they died out
fact 3 sheogorath sais when martin changed into the aspect of akatosh that "he was there for the whole assorted affair" and as we all know well, the only guy who was in the IC temple together with martin was the player
fact 4, Sheogorath CHANGED into Jyggalag at the end, back to his real form, meaning that after the shivering isles quest there was no sheogorath anymore, now explain me how sheogorath would exist in skyrim if he was wiped out in oblivion? simple, the player became sheogorath after the deadric prince powers started to grow inside him
no mater what you did in oblivion, skyrim is the next game, and in skyrim sheogorath makes it so obvious that he is the champion of Cyrodiil that the only people who could miss it are the ones that are in deniable of the truth
thats the thing that bites you in the butt with games like this, you can make your choices but in the end the next game will tell you what REALLY happened no mater what your choices were. fact is the character you played in Oblivion did turn in sheogorath over time denying this logic is impossible course if the player did not turn in sheogorath then we would not be able to meet sheogorath in skyrim at all saying the shivering isles never happened is also in logical sinds sheogorath does make it clear that he was in cyrodiil during the oblivion crisis
at first i did not believe that sheogorath was my past character too, but instead of keeping denying it i just did a lot of researche about it, and the awnser that came out is that sheogorath really is the player form oblivion one thing that people do not keep in acount is that no mather what choises you made in the last game dont mather at all, Bethesda chooses how the futiure and past run in the elder scrolls games, meaning that after you completed all quests in the game and stoped playing, years later the character you made did decide to go back to the shivering isles or do the quest's even if you did not do them, coure bethesda just chose the furiure they wanted skyrim and tamriel to have, so all you can do now is swallow the pill even if you dont like the story at all, point is what bethesda makes in the game is law, there is no denying or saying its incorect sinds they created the game and thus also shape its hystory no mather what you as the player chose to do in the game itself, for all we know now in skyrim we can win with the stormcloacks in the game and make Ulfric 1 step closer to being high king, but if bethesda chooses in there next game to say "the imperials won thanks to the help of the dragon born" well yeah, there story kinda over laps the players gameplay choises, if they say it, then that is what truely happened
so about this, I don't think sheogoraths hairstyle can really be used to determine his identity, I feel you might be over analysing his hair a bit. also most daedric princes have different coloured eyes, so do most characters of the game. in the dragonborn dlc hermaeus mora has giant black and green eyes, whereas merhunes dagon has red eyes and other daedric lords have different coloured eyes. about being their for the whole assorted affair, though this does present some questions as to the true identity of sheogorath, he is a daedric prince, the barriers between the mortal realm and oblivion were broken, he could have been anywhere he wanted, and hes the god of madness, so I don't think we should trust him. sheogorath turns into jyggalag, his true form at the end of each era, but then is forced to change back and rebuild the shivering isles after he himself destroyed it as jyggalag. so that doesn't really support your case. also I don't believe that inheriting the power of sheogorath means inheriting his Scottish accent, and I don't believe your basic imperial character has a Scottish accent, sheogorath is the only one, and while in oblivion you do inherit the power of sheogorath, you don't become a daedric prince, sheogorath was already alive as jyggalag, and I don't think a mortal could ascend to the place of a daedric god, so he would have withered away and died after an amount of years, like a mortal should. myth busted
Thanks for the note. I'll remind you that Sheogorath can be a bit odd one. As you'll see on the wiki page here, many of his responses are a little whacky.
http://www.uesp.net/...yrim:Sheogorath*
I asked him regarding this, and he pretty much said that most what skyrim sheo says is too wacky, remember DAEDRA Princes can see it all and be anywhere and the New Sheo could infact be a different hero, why? because its impossible for a single guy to do each and every single quest available in the game with a Daedra invasion in the process... you can still complete ALL THE QUESTS for GAMING PURPOSES, but you think the hero of kvatch being as holy as Bethesda make him sound would even dare to join the Dark Brotherhood? NO, but again... for gaming purposes you can.
Now, imagine that the hero of Kvatch joins the Fighters Guild and became the top Fighter, you think he would also Join the DarkBrotherhood, The Thieves Guild and Mages Guild all at the same time? i thought Thieves were forbidden to Kill... as i thought Mages were forbidden to Steal while Fighters Guild pretty much Despide the Weak Mages Guild and a Mighty Champion Hero Choosen by the Nine Divines would never under any circumstances Join the Dark Brotherhood nor the Nine Divines would allow Their Holy Champion whom they protect day and night to became Sheogorath, see the inconsistencies? for the third time... for gaming purposes... YOU CAN, not for Lore.
And unless Bethesda confirms it (which they dont) he may or not be, in this case there are a lot of things to refute the Hero Kvatch gone Mad God.
@ jcdenton2012 - I say continue with the autobiography, just take account Oblivion only, leave the DLCs and Shivering Isles out.
"After defeating Jyggalag, the player is named the new Sheogorath. This appointment suggests that the Sheogorath encountered in Skyrim could be considered to be the player character from Oblivion; however, this fact is not directly stated and since Sheogorath is much the same in appearance in Skyrim as he was in the Shivering Isles it could mean that this part of the story was simply ignored, it could also mean however that while the player in Oblivion freed Jyggalag this only prevented Jyggalag from destroying the Shivering Isles allowing Jyggalag to resume the form of Sheogorath."
From the wiki. I think it was left up to the player to decided on rather than having a cannon ending. Equally the ruin of the various factions could easy be attributed to the champion never joining that faction. Personally I have played the same character since Morrowind and have seen no plot in-continuities in doing so.
but yeah, morrowind is morrowind, Cyrodiil is Cyrodiil, and skyrim is skyrim all of those lie in Tamriel, tamriel is the collection of those country's and all those lying around them + the Summer set isles,
there are also countries lying beyond that but there is no map of that, the entire planete is called "nirn"
yeah the people here are right, the lore already exists and the story of the main character of oblivion is basicly already existing on the wiki sites, all you need to do is copy/paste what they say and add to the book that the Champion of Cyrodiil/hero of Kvatch, returned to the shivering isles after the oblivion event and true the years turned in Sheogorath (and yes this is a fact) leaving behind all the factions he/she joined (the arena had no grand champion anymore and spectators had to look at amateurs, the dark brotherhood lost there listener and fell in ruin, the thieves guild lost the gray fox and so there symbol of authority and fear to the people, the fighters guild lost there strongest warrior, the mages guild lost the arch mage and fell in ruin too) basicly every faction that relied on the hero fell in ruin when he/she left, over the years this became only worce and worce, effect? thieves guild's in every part of tamriel are nothing but a joke the fighters guild extincted entirely the mages guild got destroyed by the thalmor in time the dark brotherhood got wiped out to near extinction everything fell in ruins
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Because there have been multiple Champions of Cyrodill in the other Elder scrolls games, you would have no idea which Champion of Cyrodill the book is referencing him to.
The Morrowind character is called the neveraine
The Oblivion character is called The Hero of Kvatch
The Skyrim character is Called The Dragonborn (or Dovahkiin)
This is what happens when you have no life my friends.
fact 1: sheogorath's new hair style is like the basic hair cut you get if you take the first character the game presents to you at the start of oblivion (referring to the basic imperial you got in the game)
fact 2: the new sheogorath has no deadric prince eyes but just white eyes as if they died out
fact 3 sheogorath sais when martin changed into the aspect of akatosh that "he was there for the whole assorted affair"
and as we all know well, the only guy who was in the IC temple together with martin was the player
fact 4, Sheogorath CHANGED into Jyggalag at the end, back to his real form,
meaning that after the shivering isles quest there was no sheogorath anymore,
now explain me how sheogorath would exist in skyrim if he was wiped out in oblivion?
simple, the player became sheogorath after the deadric prince powers started to grow inside him
no mater what you did in oblivion, skyrim is the next game, and in skyrim sheogorath makes it so obvious that he is the champion of Cyrodiil that the only people who could miss it are the ones that are in deniable of the truth
thats the thing that bites you in the butt with games like this, you can make your choices but in the end the next game will tell you what REALLY happened no mater what your choices
were. fact is the character you played in Oblivion did turn in sheogorath over time
denying this logic is impossible course if the player did not turn in sheogorath then we would not be able to meet sheogorath in skyrim at all
saying the shivering isles never happened is also in logical sinds sheogorath does make it clear that he was in cyrodiil during the oblivion crisis
at first i did not believe that sheogorath was my past character too,
but instead of keeping denying it i just did a lot of researche about it, and the awnser that came out is that sheogorath really is the player form oblivion
one thing that people do not keep in acount is that no mather what choises you made in the last game dont mather at all, Bethesda chooses how the futiure and past run in the elder scrolls games, meaning that after you completed all quests in the game and stoped playing, years later the character you made did decide to go back to the shivering isles or do the quest's even if you did not do them,
coure bethesda just chose the furiure they wanted skyrim and tamriel to have, so all you can do now is swallow the pill even if you dont like the story at all, point is what bethesda makes in the game is law, there is no denying or saying its incorect sinds they created the game and thus also shape its hystory no mather what you as the player chose to do in the game itself,
for all we know now in skyrim we can win with the stormcloacks in the game and make Ulfric 1 step closer to being high king, but if bethesda chooses in there next game to say "the imperials won thanks to the help of the dragon born" well yeah, there story kinda over laps the players gameplay choises, if they say it, then that is what truely happened
also most daedric princes have different coloured eyes, so do most characters of the game. in the dragonborn dlc hermaeus mora has giant black and green eyes, whereas merhunes dagon has red eyes and other daedric lords have different coloured eyes. about being their for the whole assorted affair, though this does present some questions as to the true identity of sheogorath, he is a daedric prince, the barriers between the mortal realm and oblivion were broken, he could have been anywhere he wanted, and hes the god of madness, so I don't think we should trust him. sheogorath turns into jyggalag, his true form at the end of each era, but then is forced to change back and rebuild the shivering isles after he himself destroyed it as jyggalag. so that doesn't really support your case. also I don't believe that inheriting the power of sheogorath means inheriting his Scottish accent, and I don't believe your basic imperial character has a Scottish accent, sheogorath is the only one, and while in oblivion you do inherit the power of sheogorath, you don't become a daedric prince, sheogorath was already alive as jyggalag, and I don't think a mortal could ascend to the place of a daedric god, so he would have withered away and died after an amount of years, like a mortal should.
myth busted
*Hey there
Thanks for the note. I'll remind you that Sheogorath can be a bit odd one. As you'll see on the wiki page here, many of his responses are a little whacky.
http://www.uesp.net/...yrim:Sheogorath*
I asked him regarding this, and he pretty much said that most what skyrim sheo says is too wacky, remember DAEDRA Princes can see it all and be anywhere and the New Sheo could infact be a different hero, why? because its impossible for a single guy to do each and every single quest available in the game with a Daedra invasion in the process... you can still complete ALL THE QUESTS for GAMING PURPOSES, but you think the hero of kvatch being as holy as Bethesda make him sound would even dare to join the Dark Brotherhood? NO, but again... for gaming purposes you can.
Now, imagine that the hero of Kvatch joins the Fighters Guild and became the top Fighter, you think he would also Join the DarkBrotherhood, The Thieves Guild and Mages Guild all at the same time? i thought Thieves were forbidden to Kill... as i thought Mages were forbidden to Steal while Fighters Guild pretty much Despide the Weak Mages Guild and a Mighty Champion Hero Choosen by the Nine Divines would never under any circumstances Join the Dark Brotherhood nor the Nine Divines would allow Their Holy Champion whom they protect day and night to became Sheogorath, see the inconsistencies? for the third time... for gaming purposes... YOU CAN, not for Lore.
And unless Bethesda confirms it (which they dont) he may or not be, in this case there are a lot of things to refute the Hero Kvatch gone Mad God.
@ jcdenton2012 - I say continue with the autobiography, just take account Oblivion only, leave the DLCs and Shivering Isles out.
From the wiki. I think it was left up to the player to decided on rather than having a cannon ending. Equally the ruin of the various factions could easy be attributed to the champion never joining that faction. Personally I have played the same character since Morrowind and have seen no plot in-continuities in doing so.
all of those lie in Tamriel, tamriel is the collection of those country's and all those lying around them + the Summer set isles,
there are also countries lying beyond that but there is no map of that,
the entire planete is called "nirn"
leaving behind all the factions he/she joined (the arena had no grand champion anymore and spectators had to look at amateurs, the dark brotherhood lost there listener and fell in ruin,
the thieves guild lost the gray fox and so there symbol of authority and fear to the people, the fighters guild lost there strongest warrior, the mages guild lost the arch mage and fell in ruin too)
basicly every faction that relied on the hero fell in ruin when he/she left,
over the years this became only worce and worce,
effect? thieves guild's in every part of tamriel are nothing but a joke
the fighters guild extincted entirely
the mages guild got destroyed by the thalmor in time
the dark brotherhood got wiped out to near extinction
everything fell in ruins