Although it would make sense that Daedric should be better than Dragonplate. Daedric is strictly heavy armor, meaning it should specialize in that field. Dragon armor goes both heavy and light armor. If Vanilla Daedric did have a light armor version, Both Daedric sets would (or should) be worse than the Dragon sets.
Yeah, but one is ebony with daedra blood and the other is the bones of a dragon. Dragon Bones are some of the toughest s#*! out there, and we know a dragon can kill legions of dremora, mayve even defeat a Daedric Lord on its own.
Yep, what the previous posters said. Daedric Armor is supposed to be the most powerful armor in whole Tamriel, so that's the lore reason why it's better than Dragonplate armor. Besides that, like MokChaoticran said, it's stronger, but also heavier. Changing it so the Dragonplate armor is stronger just makes quite unbalanced.
Daedric is actually supposed to be more powerful than Dragonplate. Dragonplate is just the bones of a dragon. Daedric Armor is made from Raw Ebony crafted with a Daedric soul forged with it.
Beyond Vakivaltainen's post, Daedric may be stronger but it's also heavier, so Dragonbone has the advantage of being lighter. So this kindof throws off that balancing thing.
If you're going for Dragonplate or Daedric, you're using the Heavy Armor skill tree. Which means the Conditioning perk. Weight has no weight in this argument (no pun intended)
Well, Bethesda made it like that for a reason. It's not only for lore reason, but for the other reasons. First off, like said already, it's quite much heavier than Dragonplate armor. Additionally it's harder to make. You get dragonbones and scales throughout the whole game is such big amounts that there's no need to search for any of the items you need to craft Dragonplate armor. Daedric armor requires ebony ingots and daedra hearts though. It's not thaaaat difficult to fid them, but I've seen enough posts of people asking where to get them. That makes the Daedric armor a bit more...well, challenging to get, as the ingridients you need are much more rare than dragonbones.
But whatever, if some people wish to make the game unbalanced and get the best armor the easiest way, sure, go on and download this mod.
If you're going for Dragonplate or Daedric, you're using the Heavy Armor skill tree. Which means the Conditioning perk. Weight has no weight in this argument (no pun intended)
Upgrade both to max since you need 100, and Dragonbone is better, it's reversed with Glass and Dragonscale with Dragonsacale being worse with max upgrade.
So basicly this mod makes Daedric better once upgraded but worse until then.
PS: Dragon smithing requires more skill for another reason. No one's seen dragons for centuries. Daedra are a dime a dozen in comparison so most smiths would have more knowledge on how to smith Daedric in comparison to Dragon. Infact, you're basicly doing something no one has done for thousands of years and no one knows how to do anymore. So there's another in-lore reason.
Both perks of smithing let you upgrade each type of armor twice as much. However, the amount the armor is upgraded is unchanged from one armor to the other.
So why did a daedric prince(ss) give me ebony/daedric armour when dragonplate created by a mere mortal is better? Doesn't make sense. Daedric armour is SUPPOSED to be the best armour, not a couple of bones mulched together by a dragon-soul eating fool
While dragonplate is CREATED by a mere mortal, it's COMPONENTS are from Dragons.
I'm going to quote another user of this mod on my reply, @SemprusGalligan
"If you think Dragon is lesser than Daedric... Think of it this way.
Dremora, they wear Daedric armor. Not Daedric Lords! Just Dremora.
Now Dragons, their armor is their skin!
Now put Alduin and a Dremora Valynaz face to face. Who do you think is going to win?
The Dremora has a little over 500 health, adding on with his armor, bringing only a close 100 or so. ( Untempered )
Alduin has a whopping 2300 health. No armor, just his skin ( untempered obivously. )
Yeah. I think we know who the winner is."
If that's not enough, Valerica in the Soul Cairn tells us "It is said a Dragon's soul is as resilient as it's owner's scaly hide"
Even the humblest of idiots will know that adjective is flexed in the comparative of equality. That means, if the soul is as resilient as the hide, the hide is as resilient as the soul
Now, look at the Dragonborn and his soul. THE ONLY ONE capable of using Keening/Sunder without the gauntlets meant to wield them because of the power of his soul. You tell me some pitiful ebony armor with daedra blood is better than THAT.
Both armor sets, in combination with smiting and armor perks, will bring you beyond the armor cap, which is 567.
"While Daedric armor has a higher armor rating than Dragonplate or Dragonscale, armor rating is capped at 567. This means that with a combination of Smithing improvements and Armor perks, both Dragonplate and Dragonscale will provide the same protection as Daedric."
So... this is more of a cosmetic mod than anything else <img src='http://forums.nexusmods.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
Just off the top of my head, I believe anything Dwarven and above is just cosmetic since I'm almost 100% positive you can reach the armor cap with Dwarven. Most people don't realize this. Many months ago when I first learned this I doubted it and compared 600ish armor to 1000ish armor and both allowed the same number of melee swings before death.
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Daedric Armor is supposed to be the most powerful armor in whole Tamriel, so that's the lore reason why it's better than Dragonplate armor.
Besides that, like MokChaoticran said, it's stronger, but also heavier. Changing it so the Dragonplate armor is stronger just makes quite unbalanced.
If you're using either, you're using the Heavy Armor skill tree.
That means, Conditioning perk.
Weight doesn't matter in this case.
Also, it isn't suppose to be. There's a Dragonbone curiass in Morrowind and it's better than Daedric armor.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore
It's just the bones of a dragon.
Yet put a dragon against a Dremora in full Daedric armor and the Dragon wins.
Which means the Conditioning perk.
Weight has no weight in this argument (no pun intended)
It's not only for lore reason, but for the other reasons.
First off, like said already, it's quite much heavier than Dragonplate armor.
Additionally it's harder to make. You get dragonbones and scales throughout the whole game is such big amounts that there's no need to search for any of the items you need to craft Dragonplate armor.
Daedric armor requires ebony ingots and daedra hearts though. It's not thaaaat difficult to fid them, but I've seen enough posts of people asking where to get them. That makes the Daedric armor a bit more...well, challenging to get, as the ingridients you need are much more rare than dragonbones.
But whatever, if some people wish to make the game unbalanced and get the best armor the easiest way, sure, go on and download this mod.
If you're going for Dragonplate or Daedric, you're using the Heavy Armor skill tree.
Which means the Conditioning perk.
Weight has no weight in this argument (no pun intended)
So it really shouldn't, even lore wise
EXACTLY!!!! If they have NO ARMOR, just their scales and bones, why can they beat a Dremora wearing FULL Daedric armor?
Yes Dragonbone is worse then Daedric. UNUPGRADED
Upgrade both to max since you need 100, and Dragonbone is better, it's reversed with Glass and Dragonscale with Dragonsacale being worse with max upgrade.
So basicly this mod makes Daedric better once upgraded but worse until then.
PS: Dragon smithing requires more skill for another reason. No one's seen dragons for centuries. Daedra are a dime a dozen in comparison so most smiths would have more knowledge on how to smith Daedric in comparison to Dragon. Infact, you're basicly doing something no one has done for thousands of years and no one knows how to do anymore. So there's another in-lore reason.
Yeah, you know both upgrade the same value right?
Lemme put it simpler.
Both perks of smithing let you upgrade each type of armor twice as much. However, the amount the armor is upgraded is unchanged from one armor to the other.
That means:
If: Daedric > Dragonplate
Then: Daedric (upgraded) > Dragonplate (upgraded).
However
Dragonplate (upgraded) > Daedric (not upgraded)
I'm going to quote another user of this mod on my reply, @SemprusGalligan
"If you think Dragon is lesser than Daedric...
Think of it this way.
Dremora, they wear Daedric armor. Not Daedric Lords! Just Dremora.
Now Dragons, their armor is their skin!
Now put Alduin and a Dremora Valynaz face to face. Who do you think is going to win?
The Dremora has a little over 500 health, adding on with his armor, bringing only a close 100 or so. ( Untempered )
Alduin has a whopping 2300 health. No armor, just his skin ( untempered obivously. )
Yeah. I think we know who the winner is."
If that's not enough, Valerica in the Soul Cairn tells us "It is said a Dragon's soul is as resilient as it's owner's scaly hide"
Even the humblest of idiots will know that adjective is flexed in the comparative of equality. That means, if the soul is as resilient as the hide, the hide is as resilient as the soul
Now, look at the Dragonborn and his soul. THE ONLY ONE capable of using Keening/Sunder without the gauntlets meant to wield them because of the power of his soul. You tell me some pitiful ebony armor with daedra blood is better than THAT.
Just off the top of my head, I believe anything Dwarven and above is just cosmetic since I'm almost 100% positive you can reach the armor cap with Dwarven. Most people don't realize this. Many months ago when I first learned this I doubted it and compared 600ish armor to 1000ish armor and both allowed the same number of melee swings before death.