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Grim Tales - Nocturnality - Mother Grim Epilogue P2

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  1. aok
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    Wow! Amazing imagery and dialog work in the meeting with Nocturnal. The negotiation must have been exhausting for Grim. (Loved that he pointed out that Honey Stripes has such an arrangement)Brilliant work as always and looking forward to the next installment!
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thanks Aok! I had a bit more planned for Honey Stripes but had to keep it in-line with Alex's plans ... but I suspect she may help Grim out from time to time in the future :-) Got some things in mind ...
  2. AaronOfMpls
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    Interesting dealings with Nocturnal. She seems rather businesslike, but not humorless. She seems like someone you can work with, if you're careful, and Grim was about as prepared as he could be. Nice bit with his alliance and Nightwolves proposals. May his deal work out as well as he hopes!

    AlfrĂșn and Karliah's swap went about as well as it could have. A touching goodbye later, too; AlfrĂșn may not have been much of a mother to Grim, but he'll miss her nonetheless.

    Brynjolf's curses still make me smile. May he and Karliah serve well as Nightengales. Hopefully Grim and Karliah will get along well, too.

    Well done as always, both pics and story! (And on to the next...)

    1. wolfgrimdark
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      I think you have Nocturnal very well pegged here - that is how I see her. When Karliah says she is in this for revenge, Nocturnal replaies, "Revenge ... how interesting" which I thought was interesting in and off itself

      I think Alfrun wasn't that bad - she watched out for him, kept him protected from the Thalmor, and in her own way cared for him if at a distance - but that was also somewhat for his benefit. But she wasn't as close as Marissa that is for sure.

      I suspect Grim and Aunt Karliah will get along pretty well Thanks for the comment and feedback Aaron, always like to hear from you!
  3. deleted1123719
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    Wow. This was deeply, deeply impressive writing. Both the descriptive phrasing was top notch (over the water a thick greenish fog swirled in an eerie cadence of motion), and the story engaging and very clever. You managed to weave together so many threads into one grand tapestry in this tale (Nighwolves, Sinding and Arnbjorn, Alfrun and Karliah). Really, superb work.

    I can't say I'm too sad about Alfrun heading off into Nocturnal's realm to serve her time; her duplicitous nature irritated me a bit. Though what grim will make of Karliah will be interesting. What was most fantastic was the coming together of the thieves guild and the Company in one great Adventurers Guild. I love the idea of them having rogues and spies on hand to hire out; kind of like an 'anti'-dark brotherhood really. Just fabulous and something that I hope Bethesda takes note of; what a great addition your company would make in the lore.

    I thought you were respectful in your handling of Nocturnal herself; powerful, slightly irritable but just. At least that's how she seemed to me which, for all that I've read, seems to be how nocturnal portrays herself to mortals. I am curious though about her appearance as the blue light... did she not appear as a person in the game? If so how'd you get the blue light effect? Very cool.

    Alas, I'm on my ipad so couldn't play the music but I'll go back and check it out on my PC later; you're dead on when you said in one of my chapters that if the writer goes to the trouble of adding music you should darn well listen to it when reading through!

    Very, very well done Jon.

    1. wolfgrimdark
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      I shudder at how long I spent working on that first paragraph :p Hard to balance how much "polish" to put into a post. I like to be perfect but writing a serious piece of work can take days of re-writes and polish.Just don't have the time. But now and then I like to make some sections shine

      Thanks for the feedback on Alfrun, something I struggled with. I spent weeks working on these two chapters (hence the delay) trying to figure out how to wrap up the plot lines with her and Grim. I think he will get along well with Aunt Karliah :-) Just a gut feeling lol.

      Appreciate the comment on the guilds joining. It is less about making the guild "good" as much as being consistent with Grim and Erik. They simply would not be part of the guild as it stood and I want to keep them in character. Consequently this was the best way to go. It still has its darker side but far less intense. No hardcore drug dealing, no slavery, no harming the poor, well taken care of and protected prostitution ... that is the clean up. However they still steal, do con jobs, frame and blackmail, spy, and the like - but more for the rich and corrupt, the jarls and nobles, and they will hire out as thieves to adventurers who need those skills. Also will do jobs to track down lost artifacts and explore dungeons. Of course they will also do grand heists The final summary of this will be in the last chapter (a "letter to the captain" style) before I move to the mages college.

      In regards to Nocturnal - in the vanilla game Nocturnal is the blue light when you first meet her. It is not until you return the skeleton key to its rightful place that she decides to "gift" you with her human form. I could have altered that of course but I rather liked the blue flame.

      My impression of Nocturnal in the game is someone who is secretly amused at everything (like little matters to her and it is all one big game) yet who is also firm and business like in her dealings with mortals. She does not like failures (her sense of irritation) and Karliah says she is alike a "stern mother" in some ways.
  4. cila81
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    Amazing shots and great choice of music! Wonderful chapter
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Happy you enjoyed the images and music Cila, thanks!
  5. HRTBRK2
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    Truly another amazing work, my friend. You are a master of capturing your character's emotions through their facial and body expressions.
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Appreciate this very nice comment - I do what I can, luckily the MFG console mod is very helpful for expressions.
  6. RONALD15
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    Nicely done my friend
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Many thanks Ronald - lots of text I know
  7. DiscipleOfCarnage
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    Wow, great job at keeping all of these various plots moving in the right direction; it can't be easy and I applaud your efforts at doing so. Any time you deal with a Daedric Prince, especially Nocturnal, you just know there's going to be a lot of intrigue and unpredictability.

    This chapter was a superb addition to all the rest of your stories, and I'm sure the next one will be just as good, or better.

    I enjoyed both songs quite a bit, but that last one really set the mood for the remainder of this chapter.

    :-)
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Aye the second song was picked more intentionally. I just really like the beat on the first one

      Thanks for the comment DoC, and aye juggling all the plots can be hard at times. One reason I made a time line of events so I can do my best to make sure things all fit in logically with no incorrect overlaps. I also have a general outline and whenever I have some complicated plots I keep notes to make it easier to track them down.

      One thing I admire about Jess's Rathe stories is how she always had so many plots going ... so something introduced early on was part of something many chapters later. Something I am still practicing.
  8. bohlingTVD
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    A very intense epilogue of "Mother Grim".
    He found her and lost her again, but something tells mit it`s good like it is.
    Grim knew his biological mother not really, and he didn`t trust her. That could lead to major complications. Now she can be a reminder, but she can not affect him.
    Grim now knows who his biological mother is, and who his true mother.
    His desires are fulfilled.

    Great images Jon, and i`m really curious which "own arrangement" Nocturnal and Hircine have made.
    Looks as if they will surprise Grim.
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Aye that was my little loop hole for Nocturnal in the arrangement

      For the most part I am happy with how things went with Grim and Alfrun. I would probably do it a little differently (the entire story with her I mean) if I wore to write it up in a book but for here on Nexus I think it works ok. She has one more part to play but that is a long ways off in the future.

      Thank you for the comment and glad you liked how I concluded this!
  9. Userper
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    wow these last two chapters were amazing...
    even brought a tear to my eye( manly tear....:b)
    especially the ending, with alfrun just ...vanishing.

    Another great read
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Woot glad you liked it even if it was emotional, in a manly way :-)

      Alfrun turned out to be bitter sweet I admit. On the other hand she is with her step-brother Gallus and eventually her sister will also join her. In the mean time Grim is a rogue ... which means Alfrun will be able to watch over him and make sure he stays lucky!
  10. LadyofChaos
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    Great!
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thank you very much Lady Chaos!