Patreon page for our Donation Points system

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In May we announced our Donation Points system for mod authors on Nexus Mods. The premise of the system is (relatively) simple, each month Nexus Mods has committed to donating $6,000 - $10,000 from our own funds towards a donation pool for mod authors to benefit from. If you'd like to read more about the Donation Points system please read our launch news post and our FAQs section.

Today we have launched a Patreon donation page to crowdfund a supplement to our donation pool so that our site users can also contribute to the system. Thus, whatever you, the users, raise on Patreon each month will go towards the next month's mod author Donation Points pool, on top of what Nexus Mods is already putting into the pool that month.

We're keeping it simple. There is one tier, with one purpose! Pledges go from you straight to our modding community and every penny you donate (except for Patreon and PayPal processing fees that we have no control over) will go towards the Donation Pool for mod authors.

We are a site built by modders, for modders, with the sole focus of providing the best support we can for our modding community of various video games. If you're a regular user of mods on Nexus Mods and would like to give something back to the mod authors who provide all their work free of charge, this is a great way to do it!

Any amount helps the mod author community and our one and only tier is open-ended starting from as little as $1.

Please be aware, this does not replace any sort of direct donation you can make to mod authors. If you'd rather donate directly to a specific mod author, nothing has changed! This is simply a way normal users of the site can donate towards all mod authors who have opted their mods into the donation system.

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  1. Mookeylama
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    ok, just gave 100.00.  Hope that starts this initiative out nicely! it's a great idea. a big thank you to all the mod authors out there! bless ya. 
    give it up folks!
    1. BigBizkit
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      That is very very generous. Thank you very much, Mookeylama!
  2. jahera2009
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    Is this and the introduction of donation points somehow related to the captcha on login i keep seeing?


    Is it really necessary to have to go through three sets of bs to log in?
  3. Locaster
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    Congratulations Dark0ne is remarkable is admirable for his actions to help and value the work of modders, it was a great idea for Patreon and Dps. Not for the value itself, but for the effort to value the modders of the site.

    While those who criticize are selfish and nothing more to say, at least they should shut up. If you do not agree, not participating is simple.


    Keep up the good work
  4. Mookeylama
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    In response to post #60935747.


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    Yeah, I believe it is. I'm not going to lie, that part is a little confusing. It says "Support Nexus Mods without selecting a reward" but we obviously don't want it to say that as the Patreon isn't for us, it's for mod authors. Unfortunately, we can't change that text (or turn off that custom pledge) from what I can see.

    Basically -- whatever gets sent in via that Patreon page, no matter how it's pledged WILL go the donation pool.
     


    dang, nope. i tried to give 70 but the custom is still set up for monthly reoccurring. shouldn't be this tough to do lol
    1. Pickysaurus
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      The best way to do that would be to do a one monthly payment and cancel it after the payment is cleared.
  5. Elianora
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    This is a good idea. I will pledge a bit (even though it probably comes back to me with my DP points but I want to pitch in)
    1. BigBizkit
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      Much appreciated! :)
    2. opusGlass
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      Me as well. It really is a great idea, I always wanted to support authors on patreon but I couldn't afford to pay all of them separately, not to mention I wouldn't know how to split it. This is a great solution.
  6. Mookeylama
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    i see a "Custom Pledge" option now that i don't think was available on patreon yesterday. is that an option to donate once, and not reoccuring monthly?
    1. Dark0ne
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      Yeah, I believe it is. I'm not going to lie, that part is a little confusing. It says "Support Nexus Mods without selecting a reward" but we obviously don't want it to say that as the Patreon isn't for us, it's for mod authors. Unfortunately, we can't change that text (or turn off that custom pledge) from what I can see.

      Basically -- whatever gets sent in via that Patreon page, no matter how it's pledged WILL go the donation pool.
  7. DaedalusMachina007
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    Trying to do a Patreon for the 'Mod Author Donation Pool' is really scummy. Not happy about that.

    Let the Mod Authors put donate buttons on their individual mod pages if they want instead of trying to act as an arbiter of it, Nexus.

    There's ZERO transparancy on ANY of this and the 'Donation Points' system is still supposedly in the 90 day 'trial' period so where is the money going?

    If Nexus wants to start up a Patreon for the site, then just do that instead of trying to say it is for Mod Authors!

    Once again, Nexus is completely TONE DEAF when it comes to understanding their own modding community.

    Anyone who wants to make money from this stuff can fire up Unity/Unreal and make their own games instead of trying to profit off of the IP/work of others (which is already a legal grey area as it is).

    If authors are permitted a button to link to their own personal patreons, that would be cool. Same with the donation button on the mod pages. Nexus does NOT need to be the one to decide to whom and where the money goes. What a sham!

    I already had to deal with a severe sharp decline of downloads on my mods with the 'mandatory login' requirement even for files under 2 MB. I didn't care about donation points and yet they forced this change on everyone. Ugh.
    I wanted to help charity, but if I opt-out of the donation points system it still doesn't permit the mods to be downloaded by others without an account.

    Maybe ModDB might be a better place to host things or I'll pop up stuff on my own website.
    1. Dark0ne
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      There's ZERO transparancy on ANY of this and the 'Donation Points' system is still supposedly in the 90 day 'trial' period so where is the money going?


      The article is very clear about where the money is going. Money received from Patreon in June goes towards the July pot. Money received from July goes to the August pot. And so on, and so forth. Authors can see how much money we're receiving from this Patreon and then see we've added it to the next month's pot. Ergo, it's very transparent.

      How is there zero transparency? Please explain.

      If Nexus wants to start up a Patreon for the site, then just do that instead of trying to say it is for Mod Authors!


      Huh? We already have a Premium Membership system tied into the site. We don't need a Patreon for the site.

      Once again, Nexus is completely TONE DEAF when it comes to understanding their own modding community.


      What exactly makes us tone deaf? We've engaged with our mod authors for well over a decade, hearing what they have to say about paid modding, donations and Patreon pages over many years and threads. We've discussed the plans for this system and adapted them based on user feedback a year in advance of actually releasing it. If that makes us tone deaf then, uh...ok?

      If authors are permitted a button to link to their own personal patreons, that would be cool. Same with the donation button on the mod pages. Nexus does NOT need to be the one to decide to whom and where the money goes. What a sham!


      They are. And nothing has changed there.

      However, this is an entirely different system that supplements and compliments the other, it doesn't replace it. We're permitted to do whatever we damn well please with our own money, and we've decided to donate some of it to the mod authors who want to partake in this system.

      I already had to deal with a severe sharp decline of downloads on my mods with the 'mandatory login' requirement even for files under 2 MB. I didn't care about donation points and yet they forced this change on everyone. Ugh.


      You have one file on the site. Not sure what the plural on "mods" is, but here are your stats: https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy12/mods/37?tab=stats

      That graph doesn't correlate with what you're saying. You're at the exact same rate of downloads as you were getting before we released the update to turn off guest downloading. The only bumps in your download stats occurred when you released updates to your files, which makes sense, as people who used your mod would be coming back to grab the update, increasing the download stats. Nothing to do with guest downloading being removed at all.

      Maybe ModDB might be a better place to host things or I'll pop up stuff on my own website.


      If you feel that strongly about the situation then yes, those options are open to you.
  8. Augusta Calidia
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    NexusMods is a modding website, not a mod.  Dark0ne is the site owner, not a mod author.  The ToS applies to mods and mod authors.
    1. DtheHun
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      Grabbing the core essence 10/10
  9. TheGrimblade
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    I can get behind this, and I am sure you guys are doing everything on the up and up over here, but I just want to be sure... Are the game companies okay with this? Did you guys reach out to see if they viewed this as a loophole in their system that was going to upset them. I think it should be okay, but I just want to know that it won't get shut down in a month. Thanks, this is a great idea!
    1. DtheHun
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      If I remember well, games of objecting companies can be left out from the system. I doubt it would be advantageous for them, even though for Bethesda games there's no 100% certanity in subjects involving both mods and money.
  10. SkylerModder
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    Ok, I am immediately confused by this. The TOS places relatively strict limitations on how/where a mod author can put their own personal patreon links in a mod description/etc, but somehow THIS is ok?

    Someone (Dark) want to please help me make some sense of this? Because this feels very strongly of "Do as we say, not as we do"...

    1. Dark0ne
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      Here are where donations are mention in our ToS in the context of your post:

      Please ensure you are respectful when talking about donations and do not "over do it". An example of "over doing it" would be having a banner or blurb of text talking about donations at the top of your mod description before you've even described what your mod does, or regularly reminding your users in the comment section of your file pages to donate. Tactful discussion of donations would be informing your users they can donate and how to donate somewhere towards the bottom of your file description and/or in your readme file, acknowledging and thanking those users who have donated and who have explicitly agreed to having that information shared with others, a single sticky post in your file comments reminding users they can donate and responses to your users who have specifically asked you how they can donate to you.


      What are you struggling with, exactly? The rules are in place to prevent mod authors from plastering Patreon/Donation links all over their mod descriptions to the detriment of the actual point of the mod description -- explaining what your mod does.

      Can you explain how us adding a link on the site to a Patreon page to directly support this initiative is confusing you?
    2. SkylerModder
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      Well, either I have alzheimer's or this section was added since the last time I read the TOS:
      Tactful discussion of donations would be informing your users they can donate and how to donate somewhere towards the bottom of your file description and/or in your readme file, acknowledging and thanking those users who have donated and who have explicitly agreed to having that information shared with others, a single sticky post in your file comments reminding users they can donate and responses to your users who have specifically asked you how they can donate to you.

      because I don't remember that being there at all. ¯\_(:/)_/¯

      Can you explain how us adding a link on the site to a Patreon page to directly support this initiative is confusing you?

      2 things: 1) That the initiative needs "supporting" at all is confusing to me, as I was under the impression that Nexus already gets (very) ample funds from all the advertisements and so on it pulls in as it is. 2) In a general sense, I suppose the confusion largely stems from that the Author Donate link is right up top of the website, but that the TOS prevents a mod author having their own link at the top of their mod description. Just seems a bit conflicting, I guess. Maybe I'm wrong. idk. Like I said, I'm confused. ¯\_(:/)_/¯

      edit: Apparently unicode characters can't be in a post, because reasons. >:|
    3. Dark0ne
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      That section of the TOS has been there since June 2016.

      As for why it's "needed" -- it's explained in this news post and on the Patreon page. It isn't "needed", we're already donating a considerable sum ourselves when we don't have to. This is for users of the site to get involved in the process and "chip in".
    4. Arthmoor
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      @SkylerModder You're reading way too much into a simple situation.
    5. Scallawag
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      Arthmoor, actually he's right and it's a bit confusing. I've seen people get their mods removed due to Patreon links, but now they are allowed to remind people that they can donate to the larger "pot" of Patreon funds.

      I'm not sure which is right or why, but it's definitely a bit of a kick in the teeth for those modders that have been penalized for this in the past.
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