An issue has been reported where these nails do not accurately fit the nail beds on some female hands, perhaps limited to those mod-added followers, like Vilja, who use their own body meshes. Apparently, the issue was also present in the Oldrim version of this mod. The reason I say 'apparently' is that I have never experienced the issue using UNP-based bodies (UUNP-Special in Oldrim and UNP Body Renewal in SSE.) Please see my screenshots below and in the images section, as well as Ivanthesoso's screenshots in the User Images section.
IvanTheSoSo has suggested that he's more than just so-so by posting the following helpful information:
"I unzipped the mod, as I suspected it is a color chip over the original hands fingernails....So in Vilja's case it would require a new hand texture: for her and the several other adult females in Emma's mod.....You can't just lengthen the nail in this mod, as Vilja's nails go well past the first knuckle.....I'll send Vyxenne the additional screen shots (many not publishable), maybe she can make a sticky to keep this from coming up over and over....
However if the actor uses the correct SSE UNP body there is no issue.... "
Thank you, Ivan, and here's the sticky you suggested. Meanwhile, to those experiencing this problem, I can only suggest that you install and use UNP Female Body Renewal.
How do I convert these to a CBBE or bodyslide mesh!? I've been trying for over 3 hours and it will not work at all. My priorities are backwards, but it bothers me so much! And don't point me to a tutorial please, I've watched two videos, read like 5 different tutorials, and tried so many different things that I'm hopeless at this point!
Well, the only way I know of to convert these nails (or anything else) from UUNP to CBBE would involve reading tutorials, but since you slammed that door before I could open it, I'm afraid I can't be of any help to you, sorry.
Since converting these, I have found some great nails - for fingers and toes - in the Apachii Divine Elegance Store mod. There aren't as many colors as Kaw's Claws has, but the colors they do have look great. The mod also contains lots of gorgeous armor and clothing as well as a cozy store with 3 vendors in it.
I've tested these nails with UNP SE and several textures and every time they always appear to have clipping issues. I think Vyxenne you aren't aware of this because its only happening in 1st person mode which is the only mode I do not see in your own images. I assume you only play 3rd person?
Well, you're right about one thing- I'm not aware of any clipping, but it's not because I never play in first person- it's because I don't have any clipping in 3rd or in 1st person.
The only way I know of to get both my hands visible in first person for a screenshot is to dual-cast a spell or ready my dual-wielded daggers. I think you can see through or around the spell effects well enough to see that I do not have any clipping in first person using Claws Light-Pink and/or Claws Light-Bright Red with my Bodyslide-built UUNP-UNP hands:
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I'm sorry you have clipping and can only suggest that you use Outfit Studio/Bodyslide to build the Claws to fit whatever hand-shape preset you are using. I'll see about posting my Bodyslide Slidersets to help you do that.
Haha no no it's fine Vyxenne. I appreciate your time but it's really not a bother for me as it was only a slight clipping of the left thumb base. I made it sound like a big deal and I apologize. If bodyslide fixes it then I will have to try that out. Thanks!
Don't forget that when you build your body in Bodyslide (not the nails, but your actual body) that you must also separately build your hands and feet to the same preset shape. Hands & feet don't actually change shape much from body preset to body preset, but they can show wrist and ankle seams if they haven't been built to the same preset as the body.
Well, I would fix it if I could duplicate it, but I can't. Your picture is a first-person view with 2 spells readied, so after looking at it I went in-game to try to duplicate it.
First-person view dual-wielding daggers, my normal mode:
First-Person view with 2 spells readied:
Both of the above views look fine to me, including the nails.
I'm using the UNP Body Renewal body, and I built my body, hands and feet in Bodyslide as instructed for Dragonfly BBP, using the UNPB preset, and I'm running about 50% weight on the Racemenu slider. What I'm seeing in the picture you posted could be caused by mismatched hand meshes.
thanks for reply. could you please tell where do you find Bodyslide for SE. the UNP Body Renewal body http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49015/? doesnt have this option. so I just created a new char.
also - you can check users uploaded photos - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/8563/?tab=3&selected_game=1704&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrimspecialedition%2Fajax%2Fmodimages%2F%3Fid%3D8563%26user%3D2%26gid%3D1704&pUp=1
I used Bodyslide 4.2.1 to build my SSE body. Now it has been updated to version 4.2.3 but I have no idea what the difference is because there's no obvious changelog that I can find.
The link(s) you posted doesn't lead to any particular image, so I'm not able to comment on whatever it is you're trying to point out. I looked at all 10 of the user images and they look fine to me.
I posted those user images.....I went back and took more....Noon, full sun....Jenessa's nails (green) perfect.....The double peak seems to be lighting/angle dependent reflection error (showing the skin texture/color instead of shine....
The double nail seems to be a Oldrim UNP hand error on certain actors (the painted part overlays part of the excessively long nail bed)....Vilja being the worst I've found).....I know they used a ported UNP on Vilja because I told Seyheb about the SSE version (page 6 as of now)....
Short of a patch for every actor with this problem I see no solution.....
I unzipped the mod, as I suspected it is a color chip over the original hands fingernails....So in Vilja's case it would require a new hand texture: for her and the several other adult females in Emma's mod.....You can't just lengthen the nail in this mod, as Vilja's nails go well past the first knuckle.....I'll send Vyxenne the additional screen shots (many not publishable), maybe she can make a sticky to keep this from coming up over and over....
However if the actor uses the correct SSE UNP body there is no issue....
quote "However if the actor uses the correct SSE UNP body there is no issue.... " could you please tell a bit more what do you mean "correct SSE UNP". I've downloaded it and installed via NMM
When you install a non-vanilla body, the Player Character and most same-gender NPCs in the game will use that body. However, some mod-added followers (like Vilja) ship with their own body and thus do NOT use whatever body you have installed. Same for mod-added races like the Temptress Race. This is great in one way- various females will have different bodies, mimicking reality, but it's bad when you want to force these NPCs to all wear a particular item, such as these nails- because they will look fine on you and the others who share your body (you lucky dog, you) but not so fine on those who use different body types.
One way to fix this is to copy your installed UNP female body meshes and textures into the mod-added follower's folders, which will force that follower to use your installed body instead of whichever one she shipped with.
The body meshes are in Data\meshes\actors\character\character assets and are named 'femalebody_0.nif,' 'femalehands_0.nif' etc. The skeleton is also there and you probably should copy that also so it will match the body meshes.
The body textures are in Data\textures\actors\character\female and are similarly (and intuitively) named.
I don't know where Vilja keeps her body (hardee-har-har) because I don't have her installed, but I'm pretty sure you can hunt around and find her. It. Them.
That is the correct one.....UNP Female Body Renewal.....
Vilja's are in a BSA....She uses a never nude unp body that predates the one above.....I have posts there about removing the green bikini, but I have never tried a full replacement.....Just be warned you could end up with worse problems....At any rate that is beyond the scope of this mod.....
It's the Leather Bodice (Lavender), Leather Hotpants (Lavender) and Legwarmers (Lavender) from my personal conversion of Mr. TroubleMaker's Bouncy Bodices & Booties for Skyrim, which I can't release because MrTroubleMaker has already released it for SSE under an "umbrella" name with 10 or 15 other mods all on the same release page, which prevents me from finding it to link it for you- something like "armor mashup deposit" or a similar non-descriptive name. MrTroublemaker gave me a link to it when I wrote to him for permission to upload my conversion, but because I didn't end up publishing it I deleted the PM from him so I can't go back and get the link from it.
I just tried again to find it for you but Google still is not my friend when I enter "SSE Nexus Bodice" or "SSE Nexus Bouncy" or "SSE Nexus Bouncing." All I can find is the original Skyrim mod (which I linked above) and some discussion about it on LL. Sorry.
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IvanTheSoSo
"I unzipped the mod, as I suspected it is a color chip over the original hands fingernails....So in Vilja's case it would require a new hand texture: for her and the several other adult females in Emma's mod.....You can't just lengthen the nail in this mod, as Vilja's nails go well past the first knuckle.....I'll send Vyxenne the additional screen shots (many not publishable), maybe she can make a sticky to keep this from coming up over and over....
However if the actor uses the correct SSE UNP body there is no issue.... "
Thank you, Ivan, and here's the sticky you suggested. Meanwhile, to those experiencing this problem, I can only suggest that you install and use UNP Female Body Renewal.
Someone has made CBBE bodyslide conversion files by now:
Here
the CBBE bodyslide conversion files are now at LL, just search for 'JRICH604'
Thanks Vyxenne!
Since converting these, I have found some great nails - for fingers and toes - in the Apachii Divine Elegance Store mod. There aren't as many colors as Kaw's Claws has, but the colors they do have look great. The mod also contains lots of gorgeous armor and clothing as well as a cozy store with 3 vendors in it.
The only way I know of to get both my hands visible in first person for a screenshot is to dual-cast a spell or ready my dual-wielded daggers. I think you can see through or around the spell effects well enough to see that I do not have any clipping in first person using Claws Light-Pink and/or Claws Light-Bright Red with my Bodyslide-built UUNP-UNP hands:
however I have bugs with UNP body -
http://piccy.info/view3/10893740/be308d917638795b1eed045083672fdb/1200/
you can see near the nails the texture is overlayed and you can see 2 nails. looks bad imo(
any chance to fix?
First-person view dual-wielding daggers, my normal mode:
First-Person view with 2 spells readied:
Both of the above views look fine to me, including the nails.
I'm using the UNP Body Renewal body, and I built my body, hands and feet in Bodyslide as instructed for Dragonfly BBP, using the UNPB preset, and I'm running about 50% weight on the Racemenu slider. What I'm seeing in the picture you posted could be caused by mismatched hand meshes.
Sorry I can't help.
could you please tell where do you find Bodyslide for SE. the UNP Body Renewal body http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49015/? doesnt have this option. so I just created a new char.
I guess they have the same problem
You can download Bodyslide from here.
The link(s) you posted doesn't lead to any particular image, so I'm not able to comment on whatever it is you're trying to point out. I looked at all 10 of the user images and they look fine to me.
so, here is original screen from your images -
http://piccy.info/view3/10896965/d22072abb7e7c6e3d4f31bf55080394d/
added my comments there.
and here are 3 pictures from "image" section with my comments. have the same problem.
http://piccy.info/view3/10896973/371dc897aa2e17c1fd947574000bb86a/orig/
http://piccy.info/view3/10896975/0c6fffab774d62e6dbecd195487841ea/orig/
http://piccy.info/view3/10896977/b67131c560f73331f178e1a6327068f5/orig/
The double nail seems to be a Oldrim UNP hand error on certain actors (the painted part overlays part of the excessively long nail bed)....Vilja being the worst I've found).....I know they used a ported UNP on Vilja because I told Seyheb about the SSE version (page 6 as of now)....
Short of a patch for every actor with this problem I see no solution.....
However if the actor uses the correct SSE UNP body there is no issue....
quote "However if the actor uses the correct SSE UNP body there is no issue.... "
could you please tell a bit more what do you mean "correct SSE UNP". I've downloaded it and installed via NMM
One way to fix this is to copy your installed UNP female body meshes and textures into the mod-added follower's folders, which will force that follower to use your installed body instead of whichever one she shipped with.
The body meshes are in Data\meshes\actors\character\character assets and are named 'femalebody_0.nif,' 'femalehands_0.nif' etc. The skeleton is also there and you probably should copy that also so it will match the body meshes.
The body textures are in Data\textures\actors\character\female and are similarly (and intuitively) named.
I don't know where Vilja keeps her body (hardee-har-har) because I don't have her installed, but I'm pretty sure you can hunt around and find her. It. Them.
That is the correct one.....UNP Female Body Renewal.....
Vilja's are in a BSA....She uses a never nude unp body that predates the one above.....I have posts there about removing the green bikini, but I have never tried a full replacement.....Just be warned you could end up with worse problems....At any rate that is beyond the scope of this mod.....
no I understand what you are talking about.
strange that I have problems NOT with follower, but with my OWN character (UNP body was installed).
I just tried again to find it for you but Google still is not my friend when I enter "SSE Nexus Bodice" or "SSE Nexus Bouncy" or "SSE Nexus Bouncing." All I can find is the original Skyrim mod (which I linked above) and some discussion about it on LL. Sorry.