Hi tarlazo, i made a mistake and installed this mod on an existing save. This seems to be the reason why i always ctd when leaving raven rock thru the gate to get to attius farm. Is there a way to fix this?
I don't think that this is the cause of the CTD, this only changes where the note is created, and that happens at new game start. SetStage DLC2RR01 80 skips all the "note part".
How could I possibly take a look at your save if I don't have your load order? Anyway, I still think that this can't cause ctds, it can only work or not depending on when it's installed.
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I dont think the mod directly causes ctd either, but rather me installing it mid playthrough does. However, if you can point me to how to fix the save, it would help me a lot.
Maybe I didn't explain myself well. I can't load your save anywhere to have a look at it because I don't have your mods. That ludicrous list (what happened to spoiler tags?) is meaningless to me and there's nothing I can do with it. My only suggestion is try to exit the town from the opposite direction, go around, and approach the farm from the other side. It might work.
But still, you are sure that installing this mid-game causes ctds. I'm sure that it doesn't, for the reason I have already told you. Let's call it a draw and agree to disagree.
As far as I can remember, the quest is triggered at new game start. You can easily check in the console by entering GetQuestRunning DLC2RR01 If you get an 1 as the answer, don't install this, just remember to loot the ash spawn before going away.
Another good mod idea by tarlazo, which solves a problem i've experienced in the past, but never knew what was going wrong. As you say, it doesn't make sense for an ash spawn to be carrying a note, so I didn't expect a need to search the ash spawns to continue this quest, which is why it broke on me. Some of Bethesda's design decisions really are questionable....
Agreed. The same thing happened to me and after that it was a silly cascade of errors and also seemed to impact several other small quests on Solstheim too.
You can make this compatible with existing saves if you use a new script to move the note alias to a marker location. I'd set it up so that note gets moved onplayerloadgame if the quest is running and in the quest start up script
It could surely be done but I prefer to avoid adding an extra script to tackle such a small issue. The very few who could benefit from that have now been alerted, and will hopefully remember to loot the corpse in their current playthrough.
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You'll have to choose :)
SetStage DLC2RR01 80 skips all the "note part".
i can confirm that installing this mod mid playthrough causes the ctd, cuz when i start a new playthrough it doesnt ctd near attius farm anymore
Anyway, I still think that this can't cause ctds, it can only work or not depending on when it's installed.
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CollegeEntry.esp
MCWT_ACollegeCoup.esp
MCWT_ArnielsAppeals.esp
MCWT_DeadDunmerDelivery.esp
MCWT_ExpiditeTheExpirate.esp
MCWT_ScheduledSavos.esp
CYA_ChooseYourOwnArchMage.esp
Navigator-NavFixes.esp
WHHallDeadNavFix.esp
WRCatacombsNavFix.esp
Nchuand-ZelNavFix.esp
RiftWatchtowerNavFix.esp
DurnehviirResurrected.esp
GreybeardMeditation.esp
Use Telekinesis on Traps.esp
UpgradedWeaponsAndArmor.esp
RootDungeon01.esp
SunAffectsNPCVampires.esp
JS Emissive Eyes SE - Johnskyrim.esp
Interesting Roads.esp
Daggerfall-Inspired Sanguine.esp
Water Douses Fire.esp
iHUD - Settings Loader.esp
DynamicMercenaryFees.esp
LectureOption.esp
RealTelekinesisNMR.esp
VampireFeedingTweaks.esp
Heritage_02.esp
Bite.esp
Dynamic Speech Checks.esp
Sensible Auto Lockpicking.esp
MLQ_ForswornSkinchangers.esp
MLQ_Gravesingers.esp
shalidor's maze fixes.esp
SolstheimOrdinator.esp
Simplicity of Snow.esp
AK - Auto Store.esp
doticu_npc_lookup.esp
Underwater_Treasure.esp
I5K Treasure Hunt.esp
Spiderbros - Throwing Spider Overhaul.esp
fox-DisarmUnequip.esp
Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp
Classic Morag Tong armor SE.esp
Starlight_Starbright.esp
Bandit Lines Expansion.esp
Homes All in One.esp
Dynamic Weather And Time Based Detection.esp
WaitYourTurn.esp
Shoo_TestCRVampFix.esp
BetterThirdPersonSelection.esp
Teleporting Scrolls And Spells.esp
SnowOverSkyrim.esp
Vokrii - Hand to Hand and Security AddOn.esp
Seasonal Alchemy.esp
QuestsAreInSkyrimUSSEP.esp
CWRepairs.esp
SiltStriderDustyTravel.esp
Vittorias Alternate Wedding.esp
Caught Red Handed - Quest Expansion.esp
Harder Thaneships.esp
MagicSupportFollowerFramework.esp
CommandStealthKillsSEE.esp
Civil War Aftermath.esp
WitcherMeditateWait.esp
Hide and Seek Grants Sneak XP.esp
NPCs_Wear_Amulets_Of_Mara.esp
ForgottenArt.esp
YsgramorRevenge.esp
PickpocketReset.esp
MorePainfulNPCDeathSounds.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
Dragon Souls Heal You.esp
NoSaveInCombat.esp
Convenient Bridges.esp
ResurrectionScroll.esp
Convenient Bridges - Useless Bridges Remover.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Teleport Thralls - Better Necromancy.esp
MagelightStaff.esp
MLQSomebodyElsesProblem.esp
Labyrinthian Exterior Hostile NPC.esp
Immersive Rejections.esp
VampireFeeding.esp
Nightingalish Nightingale Bow.esp
Quests Award Perk Points.esp
Summon Ebony Warrior SE.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
HonorTheTongRedux.esp
PersonalWeddingGuests.esp
SilencedPrisoners.esp
Unaggressive Dragon Priests Fix.esp
Companions Bloodritual Scene Tweak.esp
dvEdda.esp
LuminousAtronachs.esp
Dragon Claws Auto-Unlock.esp
Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp
Quest Markers Restored.esp
AutoConsumePotions.esp
Disease Fixes.esp
sm_HF_staffenchanter.esp
sm_LakeviewManor_Disencahntment_Font.esp
BOTI.esp
GetAegisbane.esp
FSA_FindingSusannaAlive_BotIR.esp
Neutral Whiterun Guards.esp
endtimes.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
MightyHealthy.esp
StalhrimSourceFix.esp
GoldenglowIsYours.esp
ArnielQuestSpeedup.esp
RW08WanderingMerchants.esp
CalcelmoFuckOff.esp
DLC2MarchoftheDeadFix.esp
Serana No Vampire Drain After Cure.esp
WeaknessEnchantment.esp
DwemerGatesNoRelock.esp
Immersive Diseases.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
AetherialCrownScriptedEquipFix.esp
MHdunSky001.esp
Finding_VelehkSain.esp
DragonPriestMasks.esp
College Of Winterhold - Quest Expansion.esp
TheDBInitiates.esp
RealisticSwimming.esp
JS Immersive Tripwires SE.esp
Stamina of Steeds.esp
How Hard Is This Persuasion Check.esp
Dawnguard Rune Axe Fix.esp
SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
Skyrim Reputation Patch.esp
Skyrim Reputation Improved.esp
Finding_Derkeethus.esp
Beast Skeletons Variants.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
MuirisRevenge.esp
NPCsWearWeddingBands.esp
Pillar of Sacrifice - by LeonardoTrote.esp
ArcheryDummyXP.esp
Off Limits - Trespassing Behavior Expansion.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Alternate start Locations.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass mods - Cutting Room Floor Locations.esp
Complementary Grass Fixes.esp
Complementary Grass Fixes - CRF Patch.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Turn of the Seasons.esp
TOTS - Icy Waterways.esp
Seasonal Landscapes.esp
Seasonal Landscapes - Solstheim.esp
Seasonal Landscapes - Unfrozen.esp
Thieves Guild Reformation.esp
FiresHurtRE.esp
ScholarshipOfSkyrim.esp
Aela Restored - Companions Tweaks.esp
Wielding Sun Stuff Hurts Vamps.esp
SlipOffSlopesMCM.esp
SpookyPOP.esp
Recruit Aventus to the Dark Brotherhood.esp
ABRandomDiseaseChance.esp
Ethereal Beasts.esp
EnemiesFollowMe.esp
Weather of World.esp
BFSEffects.esp
NPCs React To Necromancy.esp
MeleeTraining.esp
JS Shout Apart Skeletons SE.esp
more-vamp.esp
nonessential_healthregen.esp
H2HBooksandTrainers.esp
Favor Quests Seperated.esp
MidAirShouts.esp
UnrestrictedMagickaPower.esp
SeranaEyeFix.esp
craftableStatPotions.esp
Artifact Patch.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
AK- Cowl of the Grey Fox.esp
The White Phial - Tweaks and Enhancements.esp
DungeonsRevisited.esp
Armoured Creatures.esp
Locked Chests Have Keys.esp
Administer Potions.esp
DaedricArtifactsPlus.esp
7000 Steps Rolling Nordic.esp
DressCode.esp
WIZ_FoscsF.esp
JewelleryDistr.esp
JewelleryDistrEquip.esp
ValravnSPIDUncloak.esp
Scrolls Are Common - Odin.esp
middenexpandedSSE.esp
Sleeping Expanded.esp
Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp
Dirt and Blood - Immersive NPC Reactions.esp
Rent a Bath - Dirt and Blood Addon.esp
WerewolfReversionEffect.esp
SnoresOfSkyrim.esp
NPC Bartering.esp
Environs - Whiterun Watchtower.esp
Thalmor_GuardComment.esp
XyzNightEyeNPC.esp
Windhelm Lighthouse.esp
Frostflow Lighthouse.esp
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
The Whispering Door - Quest Expansion.esp
Open College.esp
Khajiit Merchant Tracker.esp
Fists of Fury - Skyrim.esp
ShadowSong.esp
WealthyMarks.esp
Must be my imagination.esp
Civil War Lines Expansion.esp
Immersive Equipping Animations.esp
Carriage Guards.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
CarriageStationsTowns.esp
Animals Swim.esp
VendorSaleDelay-GoneSSE.esp
DynamicTreasureMapJournal.esp
Skip Vampire Lord Tutorial.esp
ELAF PrisonerFix.esp
SkyrimsGotTalent_AnimAddon.esp
ELAFHiddenChests.esp
NotificationLog.esp
treasure_hunt.esp
TreasureHunter.esp
DynamicTreasureMapJournal - NewHunt.esp
DynamicTreasureMapJournal - THunter.esp
CarriageAndStableDialogues.esp
HarkonIsntStupid.esp
DomCleanMarkarth.esp
ReplaceMaven.esp
Delphine's Map Reveals Dragon Mounds.esp
SPIDWealth.esp
NPC_Regen_Nerfed.esp
Dawnguard - HoV Req.esp
pauseMenuAfterLoading.esp
Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion.esp
CACO Farm Overhaul.esp
Skyrim Reputation - Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp
Robber's Gorge Fixes.esp
Innocence Lost - Quest Expansion.esp
TheFerrymen - CFTO.esp
Alikr Accusation Happens Only Once.esp
NPCs Ain't Hachikos.esp
Erandur Dialogue Edits.esp
World Eater's Influence.esp
RelationshipChangeNotifications.esp
Skyrim Reputation - Innocence Lost.esp
Brawl Lines Expansion.esp
MilitaryCampsBegone.esp
Civil War Deserters.esp
Essentials Knockdown.esp
BA_Hotkeys.esp
Grass FPS Booster - Seasonal.esp
The Heart Of Dibella - Quest Expansion.esp
Vampire Lines Expansion.esp
NPCs React To Invisibility.esp
ArenaHarderSpawns.esp
ThematicLoot.esp
Skyrim On Skooma.esp
More Dialogue Options.esp
CRP-SE.esp
The Black Star - Alterantive Ending.esp
Conversations Raises Speechcraft.esp
Companions Dialogue Bundle.esp
Zim's Trainers Expansion.esp
SpecialistsOfSkills.esp
Belethor's Sister.esp
TheRealDarkBrotherhood.esp
Pan's TheDBInitiates-The RealDarkBrotherhood patch.esp
Use Those Blankets.esp
SovngardeMusicRestoration.esp
Seasonal Alchemy Add-On Expanded.esp
Seasonal Landscapes - Unfrozen - Throat of the World Snow Cap.esp
Seasonal Landscapes - Unfrozen - Winter Aspens.esp
Seasonal Landscapes - Winter resources.esp
TOTS - Icy Waterways - Small worlds.esp
Unfrozen - Extra resources.esp
CourierShowsDelivery.esp
mihaildismemberthosechaurus.esp
The Cost of a Mistake.esp
AO_MortarAndPestle.esp
DialogofNeeds.esp
The Jagged Crown Tweaks.esp
Susanna the Dead.esp
Defeat the Dragon Cult.esp
ContrabandConfiscation.esp
Opening Scene Horse Stagger.esp
RelationshipRankNotificationsDialogue.esp
BooksBooksBooks.esp
SimpleTolls.esp
AutoRechargeWeapons.esp
Scene Tweak - Thieves Guild Poisoned Mead Scene.esp
ThugsNotAssassinsExtended.esp
ThugsNotAssassinsConfrontation.esp
Autorun.esp
Dremora Lines Expansion.esp
Additional Dremora Faces.esp
NPCsReactToFrenzy.esp
FaceSculptorExpanded.esp
Daedric Entity Restoration Project.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
OrganizeMod.esp
Taunt Your Enemies.esp
Remote Interactions.esp
Standing Stone Limitations.esp
Select One Skip.esp
VampiresHaveClaws.esp
bleedoutFix.esp
Guardian Circle Fix.esp
KillCameraMoveFix.esp
DragonsUseThuum.esp
SindingPrisonAnims.esp
Winterhold Sedimentary Rock Overhaul.esp
Simple Snow Improvements - Skyrim.esp
Simple Snow Improvements - Solstheim Ruins.esp
SerpentStonePilgrimBoat.esp
PorousPortcullis.esp
AmorousAdventures MCM.esp
PriestsCureDiseases.esp
MannequinScriptFix.esp
FailedPickPocketRedux.esp
Show Follower Carryweight.esp
Reanimated Detector.esp
Pilgrimage.esp
Inns Can Be Closed.esp
Companions No Werewolf Option.esp
RiftenGatesGamified.esp
mihailtalkativehagravens.esp
KyneConsequences.esp
ElixirOfExploration.esp
IWTD.esp
Redbelly Mine Fix.esp
Defensive Staves.esp
Alchemical Appraisal Services.esp
PaarthurnaxInitiates.esp
WhisperingDoorQENewMaid.esp
InfiniteDragonVariants.esp
Rainbows over Waterfalls.esp
Rainbows over Waterfalls - Interiors.esp
Rainbows over player homes.esp
DrippingWhenWet.esp
ELAF Actions Make Noise.esp
Potions and Poisons Randomized.esp
StaggerOnHit.esp
RoaringWords.esp
GoldenLie.esp
BuyableGoldenClaw.esp
GlowLikePotions.esp
Environs - Abandoned Abodes.esp
Environs - Hroggars House.esp
Environs - Riften Warehouse.esp
Environs - Shrines of Talos.esp
Environs - Tundra Farmhouse.esp
Environs - Kolskeggr.esp
Environs - Greenwood Shack.esp
Radiant Quests Point System.esp
RQPS - Belethor'sSister Patch.esp
RQPS - Penitus_Oculatus Patch.esp
Cataphract - Armored Footsteps Rework -.esp
ezPG.esp
ezPG - Update.esp
BulkEnchantingRedone.esp
Bards_Sewers1.1.esp
PCCombatLipsync.esp
PCCombatLipsync - BardsReborn addon.esp
SGT_BardStudentPatch_Anim.esp
Civil War Couriers Framework.esp
Serious Civil War Fort Commanders.esp
Seasonal Alchemy Add-on.esp
SpecialVendors.esp
Mythos Followers Refined - ezPG.esp
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New Conjuration School.esp
UltimateDragons.esp
FalmerEquipArmor.esp
DraugrEquipArmor.esp
fixLOD.esp
WA_BathWidget.esp
WerewolfTransformationTimer.esp
Alduins Wall - Descriptions.esp
Bring Meeko to Lod.esp
Missing Follower Dialogue Fix.esp
Bring Meeko To Lod - HHitPC Patch.esp
Bring Meeko to Lod - Best friend Patch.esp
Dremora Combat Dialogue Tweak - Dremora Lines Expansion.esp
Twitching Plates Fix.esp
DEM_Display Equipped Magic.esp
Precision.esp
Stoppage of Staggerlock.esp
Valvalis.esp
Pick Up Radius.esp
SprintSlide.esp
Daedric Aspect.esp
SeranaHoodFixWithAnim.esp
Dragon Priest Fix - Behaviour Overhaul.esp
ELAF Left Hand Push Bash.esp
N89 Ragged flagon fix.esp
CuttingStoneCorners.esp
ELAF Clandestine Entrances.esp
Improved Avoid Death Perk SE - ESL Flagged.esp
Simple Offence Suppression - Add-on.esp
Simple Offence Suppression MCM.esp
SoS_Seasonspatch.esp
SoS_Seasonspatch_Markarth.esp
SoS_Seasonspatch_Riften.esp
SoS_Seasonspatch_Solitude.esp
SoS_Seasonspatch_TOTS.esp
StaffBlock.esp
TavernAIFix.esp
Unique Towns.esp
mihailvampirefalmeroverhaul.esp
mihailtalkativewispmothers.esp
mihailtalkativedragonpriests.esp
Scared of Shootings.esp
CameraSwitchDuringDialogue.esp
NPCs Take Cover.esp
City Bag Checks.esp
TempleKynarethSufferers.esp
Shrine2Kyne.esp
Mighty Talos Remade.esp
ForTheLoveOfTalos.esp
soldier_of_stendarr.esp
SecretTalosShrine.esp
ShieldsIncreaseArmorSkill.esp
ShieldWard.esp
TorchBashIgnitesTraps.esp
Shouting Provokes Dragons.esp
AIT.esp
NordicRunestones.esp
DiplomaticDragons.esp
Listen.esp
Serio's Enhanced Dragons.esp
STWEolasNamiraCult.esp
Bells of Skyrim.esp
DynamicBlockHit.esp
Containers and Leveled Lists Fixes.esp
WindhelmRacism.esp
CampNewZainab.esp
Dynamic Things Alternative.esp
Seeking Out Sneaks.esp
SkyrimChallenges.esp
Dynamic Activation Key.esp
Dynamic Activation Key - MCM.esp
DismissFriendlySummons.esp
AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp
PumpingIron.esp
Stay In Shape - A Pumping Iron Addon.esp
Come Bucephalus.esp
Vittoria's Alternate Wedding - Innocence Lost Expansion Patch.esp
ELAF Crime Report While Lockpicking.esp
Hand Placed Enemies - Light.esp
ELAF POI Restless and Shipwrecks.esp
Grelka Lives in Shor's Stone.esp
Aetherium Forge Destroys Items.esp
zzz_SSETweaks.esp
I dont think the mod directly causes ctd either, but rather me installing it mid playthrough does. However, if you can point me to how to fix the save, it would help me a lot.
I can't load your save anywhere to have a look at it because I don't have your mods.
That ludicrous list (what happened to spoiler tags?) is meaningless to me and there's nothing I can do with it.
My only suggestion is try to exit the town from the opposite direction, go around, and approach the farm from the other side.
It might work.
But still, you are sure that installing this mid-game causes ctds.
I'm sure that it doesn't, for the reason I have already told you.
Let's call it a draw and agree to disagree.
You can easily check in the console by entering GetQuestRunning DLC2RR01
If you get an 1 as the answer, don't install this, just remember to loot the ash spawn before going away.
Definitely endorsing this.
The very few who could benefit from that have now been alerted, and will hopefully remember to loot the corpse in their current playthrough.
Thank you!