Skyrim Special Edition

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Reworks the vanilla jobs to gather crops, mine ore and chop firewood so that they make more sense. No free crops or ores. Milk cows.

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Description

This mod changes the vanilla jobs to gather crops, mine ore and chop firewood (Gather Wheat, Mine Ore and Chop Wood quests respectively) so that they make more sense, prevents you from freely taking crops from farms and ore from owned mines when you're not working there, and allows you to milk cows.

These jobs make no sense in vanilla:
  • You can freely gather crops from farms and mine ore in owned mines. Skyrim Landscape and Water Fixes, which is a requirement for FJO, makes crops actually owned by farmers, but on farms where you can sell crops you can still harvest crops for free if you ask for a permission (unless you have a bad relationship with the farmer)
  • If you want you can then sell this stuff to its owner. It doesn't look like work much, you're basically just selling the NPC's own stuff to them
  • You sell crops and ore for their full price, that doesn't make any sense
  • You can sell to them not only their own stuff, but also crops/ore/firewood that you found anywhere else, like crops stolen from a neighboring farm, bought on the market or taken from a barrel in some bandit camp. That doesn't make much sense: these NPCs are supposed to sell their own produce, not resell
Job Quests

With this mod, instead of just a dialogue for selling crops/ore/firewood to the NPC, there are now small quests that you need to take, do and complete:
1. Ask the NPC "May i work on the farm/in the mine/on the lumber mill?"
2. Work (gather crops/mine ore/chop firewood) in that location (only working in that location counts)
3. Return to your quest giver and tell them "I'm done working." to complete the quest and get paid for your work

Notes:
  • In addition to the crops that you can sell to farmers in vanilla, you can also work by harvesting snowberries and supported mod-added crops, picking chicken eggs and milking cows on the farm
  • You can refuse the job by telling the quest giver "Sorry, I can't work."
  • If you don't work for 24 hours, the quest gets failed
  • You can only take one quest of each type at a time, starting another quest of the same type will stop the previous quest and your work for the previous quest giver will be forgotten
  • The quests can only be taken between 6 and 20 hours
  • If your quest giver is a vendor, everything you harvest/mine/chop/milk is added to their vendor inventory so that you can buy it
Which NPCs offer you a job:
  • With a few exceptions described below, the NPCs that offer you a job are the same NPCs that you can sell crops/ore/firewood to in vanilla. Notice that it's only one NPC per farm/mine/lumbermill - if you have troubles finding them, you can check the UESP pages for Gather Wheat, Mine Ore and Chop Wood quests.
  • You can no longer chop wood for Hulda (The Banneded Mare inn) and Ganna Uriel (Kynesgrove) (since they don't work on lumbermills and i didn't want to make a separate version of the quest for them).
  • Ainethach (Karthwasten) and Evul Seloth (Raven Rock Mine), which didn't buy ore from you in vanilla, now offer you a mining job too.
No Free Crops or Ores

FJO prevents you from freely taking crops from farms and ore from owned mines when you're not working there:
  • FJO requires Skyrim Landscape and Water Fixes, which already makes crops owned by farmers so that you can't take them for free. However, SLaWF still provides a dialogue to ask farmers for a permission to harvest their crops for free forever. With FJO you only get temporal permission to gather the crops when you take the quest to work on the farm, and when you gather crops on this farm during the quest none of the harvested items get added to your inventory so that you can't steal them, but they're counted under the hood.
  • In owned mines FJO only allows you to mine during the quest for this mine, when no ore get added to your inventory. However, you still get gems.
  • I haven't restricted free access to wood chopping blocks, but when you chop wood for the quest no firewood gets added to your inventory too.
  • By default, unlike vanilla, the quest giver won't be made your friend after working for them once, so that you won't get free access to all their crops and cheap items, and working for them won't be counted as help for thaneship quests (which will make it harder to earn thaneship). In the MCM you can enable it back. However, if you do that, there are now minimal requirements for making the quest giver your friend: mining 3 ores/harvesting 6 crops/chopping 10 firewood at once, which makes more sense than making you friends after you chopped a single log.


Rewards

Rewards are rebalanced. You no longer get the full value of the items, which would be absolutely not profitable for your employeer. You don't sell things now, so there's no difference which crops you harvest/which ore you mine: you're only paid for the amount of work. Rewards increase with your speech level and you also get some speech XP.


Milk Cows

FJO allows you to milk cows. There are options fir animated (reusing a vanilla animation) and instant milking.
You can milk cows owned by you, your factions or no one. Owned cows can only be milked when you work on this farm. To milk a cow you must not have weapons drawn and the cow must stay in place.

MCM

This mod comes with an MCM, where you can customize many options. The settings are stored in a .json file and are shared by all your saved games.


Feature Creep Bonuses

  • Mining Makes Noise and Unlimited Wood Chopping tweaks are included since i edited the same scripts.
  • Fixed the vanilla duplicated axe/pickaxe bug (when you start chopping wood/mining with an axe/pickaxe equipped).
Requirements

I also recommend you to get a mod that makes farmers and miners vendors, such as my Producers of Skyrim - Farmers Miners Fishermen Are Vendors.

Compatibility

  • Conflicts with other mods that edit the same quests, including the rewards.
  • Conflicts with other mods that edit MineOreScript.pex and ResourceFurnitureScript.pex, which means almost everything that edits the mining or wood chopping process in any way.
  • Conflcits with anything that adds cow milking. If the other mod allows to disable this feature then disable it. Alternatively you can disable cow milking in FJO, but it's the only cow milking that is integrated with the FJO quest, and to be fair it's the best milking implementation that currently exists.
  • Make sure that nothing overwrites FJO scripts and that FJO is placed after any conflicting mods, otherwise it won't work.
Incompatible:
Already included:
Compatible without any patches IF placed before FJO and overwritten:
Compatible with patches from the installer IF placed before FJO and overwritten:
Compatible without any actions:
For more MineOreScript.pex patches check Patch Hub mineorescript.pex or Mineorescript Switch Hub.

Content patches are provided for:
FJO only works with vanilla content by default. Here's the list of things that need patches if you want FJO to work with them:
  • Mods that add new types of crops.
  • Mods that add other items that can be get when harvesting vanilla crops and chicken eggs.
  • Mods that add more farms/mines/lumbermills. If not patched, nothing bad will happen, but you won't be able to work there.
  • FJO also requires ownership being set on all crops and chicken eggs on farms (both vanilla and mod-added), though this is technically patching not for FJO, but for SLaWF.
See Creating Consistency Patches for Favor Jobs Overhaul for details.


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