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So, a challenge I propose is for any one of you who has a problem with Lydia's moral objection system to complete the quest "Loud and Clear" (the one where you break into Goldenglow Estate) with (vanilla) Lydia as your follower and upload a video of it to YouTube. Link it here afterwards. If you can manage it, I'll add an MCM option to disable the moral objection system, and I won't even use it as an opportunity to chastise you for not accepting the consequences of your actions.
Rules:
-You can't kill any of the mercenaries guarding Goldenglow Estate.
-You need to burn the 3 beehives and clear out Aringoth's safe.
-You can't have Lydia wait anywhere for more than 1 minute (having her wait would defeat the whole point of the challenge)
-You can't turn Lydia invisible, use calm spells, or use voice of the emperor.
-You CAN cheat your sneak skill (or any skill) to 100 if you're starting a new playthrough or use "setstage mq105 1" to instantly unlock Lydia as a follower, or cheat yourself some invisibility potions
-You can't use any mods that drastically change stealth mechanics, like sneak tools.
-You can't tcl your way through walls, disable the guards, or do anything extremely cheaty like that.
Ultimately, the point here is to prove to me that bringing Lydia with you is not detrimental to stealth quests. Again, I'll add an MCM option to disable the moral rejection system if any of you can manage it.
UPDATE: Beaten by Nexus User Thoghart:
Lydia often talks when other NPCs are talking, so it's hard to hear what both are saying. Sometimes Lydia will interrupt conversations with other NPCs in the main quest, then when I try to finish those conversations with them, hers will be unavailable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAchP-puPs
and why was the MCM option added because of it?
While reading the rules of the challenge it was quite funny how Thoghart completed this challenge as a result XD
Congrats, Thoghart
UPD: nevermind I was inattentive)
...also ngl i'm not sure how she even knew I was in the thieves guild, unless it was the fact I had the armor in my inventory (not worn). Like I said we hadn't even left Dragonsreach yet.
If you romanced her and want her back, you gotta go seen Falion in Morthal.
Her response is silent, are there no audio files for that line or it is just a random bug?
Video of audio:
https://www.kapwing.com/videos/661f5035f9ee93afa36dacbf
There are other more minor ones but they aren't as glaring.
I have a problem though. Lydia keeps doing the dialogue about not using spells very often even though I am a mage and fight exclusively with magic. It is kind of immersion breaking as I constantly use magic and she keeps obliviously saying I don't. I don't know if this is a bug or oversight. If is not a bug I think this needs either some kind of check to make sure that magic skills are not your highest skills or the line rewritten to express that your are bad at magic not that you don't use it.
Also its not really a problem but it would be nice if there was a more humble option at the beginning when she claims you didn't kill the dragon, as when talking to the jarl right before they give you some slightly more humble options, and if you are playing with a lot of difficulty mods and/or at a high difficulty setting you often end up not being able to contribute much to the dragon fight, so acting like it was you who killed it is a bit disingenuous.
Your point about the humble dialogue option is a good idea. It's easier to coordinate new voice lines in large batches rather than a la carte, so that likely won't come until the next update.