Hey!!! I saw someone in one of my discord servers and after seeing them use your mod I HAD to use it for myself, your mods are absolutely wonderful!!! Im having one small issue in riverwood tho, it appeard that everyone is now bald. Any clue what I could have done wrong, or how I should adjust my LO? I am using KS and HG hairdos
First off, this Riverwood release is included in the Whiterun release, so if you have the Whiterun NPCs installed don't install the Riverwood NPCs. This could be the cause of your issue.
It could also be that you are using a mod such as "Face Discoloration Fix" that regenerates NPC facegen when the game detects dark face issues. NPC mods that are sculpted in Racemenu (this is the vast majority) are not compatible with mods that regenerate facegen at runtime.
I had both Riverwood release and Whiterun release installed. Removing Riverwood release fixed my Black / Dark face issues with NPC's in Riverwood... Thanks.
You are using both the Whiterun and Riverwood release together. As mentioned in the description, all NPCs from the Riverwood release are included in the Whiterun release, so there is no reason to use them together. You are just creating more conflicts and the potential for more issues using them together.
Not saying that is the definite cause of the problem but I'd start there.
Hello, first thank you so much for making this amazing set of mods !
I have a question regarding male hair conflict. Lucan is bald and In manage files conflict the hair file are Ks hair, I think I need to change that but hair files are in conflict with all the Northbourne NPC mod, what mod files should I select ?
Any conflicting hair files within the Northbourne series will simply being overwriting the same files that are included in each module, so no issue. This is why some mod authors now use a single "resource" mod, and then each of the replacer mods use the resources from the one core mod.
All female NPCs have no hair and their face paint is random, even though I have the 'Northbourne NPCs of Riverwood' mod setup correctly. Other 'Northbourne NPC' mods do not have this problem. Help!
You have some mod that is regenerating the NPC's facegen like the mod "Face Discoloration Fix". Mods that fix darkface issues by regenerating facegen with break custom NPC mods like mine. The result is the weird NPCs you see ingame.
This mod and the falkreath mod are conflicting with each other and with all your other northbourne mods, I had to uninstall these two to undo the conflict, how do I use all your mods together?
great mod and all and it was working fine not to long ago, now all the NPCs in Riverwood are wearing black face again all of the sudden and ive loaded this mod after all my other mods that effect NPCs, any clue what the hell is going on? its driving me crazy! ha
This is happening to me too but from what I've been looking at now only in some NPC of reverhood (lucan, sigrid and maybe another one. I wanted to know that it could be since I also put the last loading order and wicon the wicon and total character makeover and the same error still appears.
No face issues for me and I'm using both the Whiterun and Riverwood npc face mods (using this mod because I like Delphine, Gerdur, and Sigrid in this one better). Have this mod after the Whiterun one (in both the mod list and load/plugin order in Mod Organizer).
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I saw someone in one of my discord servers and after seeing them use your mod I HAD to use it for myself, your mods are absolutely wonderful!!!
Im having one small issue in riverwood tho, it appeard that everyone is now bald. Any clue what I could have done wrong, or how I should adjust my LO? I am using KS and HG hairdos
First off, this Riverwood release is included in the Whiterun release, so if you have the Whiterun NPCs installed don't install the Riverwood NPCs. This could be the cause of your issue.
It could also be that you are using a mod such as "Face Discoloration Fix" that regenerates NPC facegen when the game detects dark face issues. NPC mods that are sculpted in Racemenu (this is the vast majority) are not compatible with mods that regenerate facegen at runtime.
Removing Riverwood release fixed my Black / Dark face issues with NPC's in Riverwood...
Thanks.
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Crashlog Tool: CrashLoggerSSE v1-10-0-0 Sep 5 2023 01:25:07
Game Version: 1.6.640
Script Extender:1.6.640
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RAM Total:15.65 GB
RAM Used:13.29 GB
RAM Free:2.36 GB
Analysis RAM (all good):
It is absolute unlikely that the crash was due to RAM.
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Mod Count:
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Light: 127Regular: 196Total: 323
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Header indicators:
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Memory: 0x7FF7028ACEE4count: (2)
File: SkyrimSE.execount: (38)
Address: 0CACEE4count: (2)
Assembler:movss xmm2, dword ptr [rdx+0x04]count: (2)
[ 0] 0x7FF7028ACEE4 SkyrimSE.exe+0CACEE4 -> 70938+0x4movss xmm2, dword ptr [rdx+0x04] -//- count: (1)
[ 1] 0x7FF7028B9C68 SkyrimSE.exe+0CB9C68 -> 71212+0x58mov rax, [rbp+0x10] -//- count: (1)
[ 2] 0x7FF7028AC88B SkyrimSE.exe+0CAC88B -> 70925+0xBBlea r8, [rdi+0x7C] -//- count: (1)
[ 3] 0x7FF7028AC6B5 SkyrimSE.exe+0CAC6B5 -> 70921+0x15test byte ptr [rbx+0x04], 0x01 -//- count: (1)
[ 4] 0x7FF702892632 SkyrimSE.exe+0C92632 -> 70301+0x152mov eax, [rdi+0xF4] -//- count: (1)
[ 5] 0x7FF7022435D6 SkyrimSE.exe+06435D6 -> 37976+0x66add rsp, 0x28 -//- count: (1)
[ 6] 0x7FF702211A67 SkyrimSE.exe+0611A67 -> 37371+0x17and dword ptr [rbx+0xE8], 0xFFFFFFFE -//- count: (1)
[ 7] 0x7FF7023177DF SkyrimSE.exe+07177DF -> 41381+0x1DFtest al, al -//- count: (1)
[ 8] 0x7FF70231C7B4 SkyrimSE.exe+071C7B4 -> 41446+0x14add rsp, 0x28 -//- count: (1)
[ 9] 0x7FF70286C628 SkyrimSE.exe+0C6C628 -> 69378+0xD8mov ecx, [rbx+0x0C] -//- count: (1)
[10] 0x7FF70286CBF1 SkyrimSE.exe+0C6CBF1 -> 69380+0x361mov r15d, eax -//- count: (1)
[11] 0x7FF70286AF7A SkyrimSE.exe+0C6AF7A -> 69344+0x8Amovzx eax, byte ptr [rbx+0xA74] -//- count: (1)
[12] 0x7FF702845E4D SkyrimSE.exe+0C45E4D -> 68445+0x3Dmov rcx, [0x00007FF704C06898] -//- count: (1)
R13 0x7FF704C92640 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3092640add [rax], al) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+28 ] 0x7FF7028B9C68 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0CB9C68mov rax, [rbp+0x10]) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+158] 0x7FF7028AC88B (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0CAC88Blea r8, [rdi+0x7C]) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+1D8] 0x7FF7028AC6B5 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0CAC6B5test byte ptr [rbx+0x04], 0x01) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+208] 0x7FF702892632 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0C92632mov eax, [rdi+0xF4]) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+248] 0x7FF7022435D6 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+06435D6add rsp, 0x28) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+278] 0x7FF702211A67 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0611A67and dword ptr [rbx+0xE8], 0xFFFFFFFE) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+280] 0x7FF704C92640 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3092640add [rax], al) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+2A8] 0x7FF7023177DF (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+07177DFtest al, al) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+300] 0x7FF704C92644 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3092644add [rax], al) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+310] 0x7FF704C92648 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3092648add [rax], al) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+328] 0x7FF70231C7B4 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+071C7B4add rsp, 0x28) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+330] 0x7FF704C95BB8 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3095BB8add byte ptr [rsp+rdx*4], 0x77) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+358] 0x7FF70286C628 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0C6C628mov ecx, [rbx+0x0C]) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+370] 0x7FF704C95BB8 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3095BB8add byte ptr [rsp+rdx*4], 0x77) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+390] 0x7FF704C95B68 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3095B68add al, 0x00) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+3A0] 0x7FF704CA7C00 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+30A7C00fisttp [rdx]) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+3A8] 0x7FF70286CBF1 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0C6CBF1mov r15d, eax) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+3E8] 0x7FF703B56F80 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+1F56F80add [rax], al) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+478] 0x7FF70286AF7A (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0C6AF7Amovzx eax, byte ptr [rbx+0xA74]) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+480] 0x7FF704C95A01 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+3095A01add [rax], al) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+4A8] 0x7FF702845E4D (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+0C45E4Dmov rcx, [0x00007FF704C06898]) -//- count: (1)
[RSP+4B0] 0x7FF704C068F0 (void* -> SkyrimSE.exe+30068F0add [rax], al) -//- count: (1)
SkyrimSE.exe 0x7FF701C00000 -//- count: (1)
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Solutions
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SkyrimSE.exe: count: (38)
This file on its own is not the cause, however, we'll do further parsing...
Could not find any known issues related to SkyrimSE.exe.
SkyrimSE.exe _might_ be listed for the sole reason of... you're playing this game!!
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NiNode: count: (18)
Ninodes are related to skeletons. It could be a wrong loadorder for skeleton based mods.
If you use HDT/SMP, make sure to load it like: Body (CBBE or BH/UNP) -> FNIS/Nemesis -> DAR -> HDT -> XP32
Also make sure that you've chosen the HDT/SMP variant of xpmsse.
If you find a mod name in the following list, try disabling it and rerun FNIS or Nemesis.
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[RSP+228] 0x22828990F40 (NiNode*) count: (1)
RTTIName: "ShadowSceneNode" count: (1)
Checking Parent: 1 count: (1)
RTTIName: "SceneGraph" count: (1)
Flags: kSelectiveUpdate | kSelectiveUpdateTransforms | kSelectiveUpdateController count: (1)
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Modified by: count: (29)
These are only listed as additional hints for probably debugging. If you have no other indicators, this might be worth investigating.
If you do have other indicators, try to solve those first!
That said, it is common to have 2-4 mods listed in a row, however,
lists of 5 or more _might_ cause issues by the sheer amount of what possibly could be overwritten several times.
Chance: LOW (4)
Modified by: Skyrim.esm -> Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp -> AI Overhaul.esp -> Northbourne NPCs of Whiterun Hold.esp -> Northbourne NPCs of Riverwood Males Only.esp -//- count: (29)
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Success Statistic: (this has been detected/handled, does not mean it's the cause)
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Issues Found:3
Issues Solved:3
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DEBUG State:
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Culprit list content: (just a list)
SkyrimSE.exe, NiNode, Modified by,
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Random 'Fallback' Checks
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How to read these results?
- They are simple keywords that may appear when you have a lot of issues.
- They do NOT have to mean anything.
- Only if the "regular" results / solutions do not help, they might provide an indication to the reason for this crash.
File: "Northbourne NPCs of Riverwood Males Only.esp" -//- count: (29)
File: "Skyrim.esm" -//- count: (10)
Name: " (00000D6C)[0]/ (00000D64) [100%]" -//- count: (6)
RTTIName: "BSTriShape" -//- count: (3)
Full Name: "Alvor" -//- count: (12)
Name: "Alvor" -//- count: (46)
Name: "skeleton.nif" -//- count: (12)
RTTIName: "BSFadeNode" -//- count: (8)
ExtraData[0] Name: "BSBoneLOD" -//- count: (8)
ExtraData[1] Name: "BOM" -//- count: (8)
ExtraData[2] Name: "BBX" -//- count: (8)
ExtraData[3] Name: "BSX" -//- count: (8)
ExtraData[4] Name: "SkeletonID" -//- count: (8)
RTTIName: "NiNode" -//- count: (17)
RTTIName: "BSMultiBoundNode" -//- count: (8)
Name: "ObjectLODRoot" -//- count: (8)
Name: "shadow scene node" -//- count: (8)
RTTIName: "ShadowSceneNode" -//- count: (8)
Name: "WorldRoot Node" -//- count: (8)
RTTIName: "SceneGraph" -//- count: (8)
Name: " (0005B6A2)[0]/ (0005B69F) [100%]" -//- count: (2)
Name: "MPSMetalSparkImpact.nif" -//- count: (2)
RTTIName: "BSMasterParticleSystem" -//- count: (1)
FormID: 0x00013475 -//- count: (29)
FormID: 0x00013482 -//- count: (10)
Not saying that is the definite cause of the problem but I'd start there.
I have a question regarding male hair conflict. Lucan is bald and In manage files conflict the hair file are Ks hair, I think I need to change that but hair files are in conflict with all the Northbourne NPC mod, what mod files should I select ?
Your MOD 10/10
Also,
This Riverwood mod isn't needed if you are using the Whiterun release as Riverwood NPCs are included in that mod
This is happening to me too but from what I've been looking at now only in some NPC of reverhood (lucan, sigrid and maybe another one. I wanted to know that it could be since I also put the last loading order and wicon the wicon and total character makeover and the same error still appears.
I only keep this page up for those who only want these characters. But this mod has been outdated by the whiterun release.