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Changes the formulas for crafting skill level up to make more sense.
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Description
Changes the crafting skill level up formulas for Smithing, Tempering, Enchanting, Disenchanting and Alchemy. The vanilla formulas are quite terrible and promote grinding the cheapest and most boring craftables from skill level 20 to 100. The adjusted formulas will give incentives to craft more difficult stuff, enchant/disenchant more expensive items, brew potions with more and rarer ingredients.
Requirements
.NET Script Framework
Installing
Make sure the framework above is installed properly.
Install this mod with a mod manager or manually. The DLL file from this mod should go here:
Data/NetScriptFramework/Plugins/
It should be safe to install or uninstall mid-playthrough since this mod does not touch save-games in any way.
Uninstalling
Uninstall with your mod manager or remove the DLL file from above path.
Details
Smithing formula
Vanilla formula: 3 * (item value)^0.65 + 25
New formula: (3 * (used materials value sum)^1.1) / ((smithing skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula promoted crafting the cheapest thing possible which is usually Iron Dagger or the nails from Hearthfire. This is incredibly tedious and boring way to level up. New formula promotes using expensive materials such as ebony ingots (the more and better materials you use in 1 craft the more XP you get) and as your smithing skill increases you have to use the better materials or you will get so little XP it's almost impossible.
Tempering formula
Vanilla formula: 3.8 * (item gained value)^0.5 * (improved quality ranks)^0.5
New formula: (2 * (used materials value sum)^1.1) / ((smithing skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula depends completely on the value of item being tempered. The new formula depends only on the value of materials used. That means improving ebony dagger gives you same amount of experience as improving ebony warhammer, this is preferable because you used the same amount of materials to do so.
Enchanting formula
Vanilla formula: 1
New formula: ((ItemBaseCost + 100) / 300) * (SoulGemCost / 200) / ((enchanting skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula is literally just give 1 XP no matter what happened. If you enchant an iron dagger with petty soul gem you get same XP as if you enchanted ebony battleaxe with grand soul gem! New formula rewards you for using more expensive base items and soul gems, especially if you manage to do it at low skill levels. At higher levels you must use better items and gems or you will gain very little experience.
Disenchanting formula
Vanilla formula: EffectBaseCost * 0.0025
New formula: EffectBaseCost * 0.0025 * (ItemBaseCost + 50) / 300 / ((enchanting skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula is actually somewhat decent here. However I added an extra multiplier so that if you disenchant some really expensive item it will give more experience, at the same time I added a reduction based on skill, the higher level you get the less disenchant will benefit you as a way to level up.
Alchemy formula
Vanilla formula: ??? (complicated mess)
New formula: 2 * (sum of ingredient cost)^1.2 * (ingredient count)^2 / ((alchemy skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
I have a very big problem with the vanilla alchemy level up formula. It depends solely on the value of the potion you created regardless if you used the most expensive and rarest ingredients to make it. The new formula will depend only on the cost of ingredients and the amount of ingredients used rather than what the potion ended up being. Another problem with vanilla method is that the more you level up alchemy and put perks in it the more XP you get because your potions will be stronger, this is not good. With the new formula it's always beneficial to use more than two ingredients for leveling up because it gives much more experience and taking perks in Alchemy skill tree does not change the amount of XP you get.
If alchemy leveling seems too slow change the 0.05 to 0.02 or even 0.01 (lower is faster leveling). The value is in the configuration file, and it's called AlchemyXPSkillMult
Configuration
You can enable/disable and change all aspects of the formulas used with the configuration file at /Data/NetScriptFramework/Plugins/CraftingSkill.config.txt
Examples of how it changed from vanilla
Smithing
skill 20:
iron dagger: 38.4 -> 15.1
iron battleaxe: 65.6 -> 58.1
ebony dagger: 144.6 -> 303.6
ebony battleaxe: 385.7 -> 1760.2
skill 80:
iron dagger: 38.4 -> 6.9
iron battleaxe: 65.6 -> 26.4
ebony dagger: 144.6 -> 138.0
ebony battleaxe: 385.7 -> 800.1
Tempering
skill 20:
iron dagger: 5.7 -> 6.8
iron battleaxe: 11.4 -> 6.8
ebony dagger: 26.5 -> 198.1
ebony battleaxe: 69.0 -> 198.1
skill 80:
iron dagger: 17.1 -> 3.1
iron battleaxe: 34.1 -> 3.1
ebony dagger: 132.6 -> 90.0
ebony battleaxe: 345.2 -> 90.0
Enchanting
skill 20:
iron dagger + common soulgem: 1 -> 0.11
iron dagger + grand soulgem: 1 -> 0.37
ebony battleaxe + common soulgem: 1 -> 1.69
ebony battleaxe + grand soulgem: 1 -> 5.62
skill 80:
iron dagger + common soulgem: 1 -> 0.05
iron dagger + grand soulgem: 1 -> 0.17
ebony battleaxe + common soulgem: 1 -> 0.77
ebony battleaxe + grand soulgem: 1 -> 2.6
Disenchanting
skill 20:
iron dagger + damage stamina: 0.074 -> 0.006
ebony battleaxe + damage stamina: 0.101 -> 0.161
skill 80:
iron dagger + damage stamina: 0.074 -> 0.003
ebony battleaxe + damage stamina: 0.101 -> 0.073
Alchemy
skill 20:
wheat + blue mountain flower (restore health and fortify health): 75.4 -> 33.06
wheat + blue mountain flower + rock warbler egg: 75.4 -> 100.6
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg (invisibility): 190.9 -> 189.5
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg + nirnroot (invisibility): 221.14 -> 602.3
frost salts + moon sugar (weakness to fire): 112.0 -> 1307.6
daedra heart + ash hopper jelly + wheat: 128.2 -> 6088.8
skill 80:
wheat + blue mountain flower (restore health and fortify health): 279.2 -> 15.0
wheat + blue mountain flower + rock warbler egg: 279.2 -> 45.7
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg (invisibility): 665.3 -> 86.1
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg + nirnroot (invisibility): 752.4 -> 273.8
frost salts + moon sugar (weakness to fire): 398.8 -> 594.3
daedra heart + ash hopper jelly + wheat: 457.9 -> 2767.6
Compatibility
This mod is compatible with all custom craftings and other ESP/ESM/ESL mods. This mod will overwrite the formula if enabled and the game settings related to these skills will not be used! Example game setting fDisenchantSkillUse will be ignored if DisenchantFormula is enabled in this mod's configuration file.
Changes the crafting skill level up formulas for Smithing, Tempering, Enchanting, Disenchanting and Alchemy. The vanilla formulas are quite terrible and promote grinding the cheapest and most boring craftables from skill level 20 to 100. The adjusted formulas will give incentives to craft more difficult stuff, enchant/disenchant more expensive items, brew potions with more and rarer ingredients.
Requirements
.NET Script Framework
Installing
Make sure the framework above is installed properly.
Install this mod with a mod manager or manually. The DLL file from this mod should go here:
Data/NetScriptFramework/Plugins/
It should be safe to install or uninstall mid-playthrough since this mod does not touch save-games in any way.
Uninstalling
Uninstall with your mod manager or remove the DLL file from above path.
Details
Smithing formula
Vanilla formula: 3 * (item value)^0.65 + 25
New formula: (3 * (used materials value sum)^1.1) / ((smithing skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula promoted crafting the cheapest thing possible which is usually Iron Dagger or the nails from Hearthfire. This is incredibly tedious and boring way to level up. New formula promotes using expensive materials such as ebony ingots (the more and better materials you use in 1 craft the more XP you get) and as your smithing skill increases you have to use the better materials or you will get so little XP it's almost impossible.
Tempering formula
Vanilla formula: 3.8 * (item gained value)^0.5 * (improved quality ranks)^0.5
New formula: (2 * (used materials value sum)^1.1) / ((smithing skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula depends completely on the value of item being tempered. The new formula depends only on the value of materials used. That means improving ebony dagger gives you same amount of experience as improving ebony warhammer, this is preferable because you used the same amount of materials to do so.
Enchanting formula
Vanilla formula: 1
New formula: ((ItemBaseCost + 100) / 300) * (SoulGemCost / 200) / ((enchanting skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula is literally just give 1 XP no matter what happened. If you enchant an iron dagger with petty soul gem you get same XP as if you enchanted ebony battleaxe with grand soul gem! New formula rewards you for using more expensive base items and soul gems, especially if you manage to do it at low skill levels. At higher levels you must use better items and gems or you will gain very little experience.
Disenchanting formula
Vanilla formula: EffectBaseCost * 0.0025
New formula: EffectBaseCost * 0.0025 * (ItemBaseCost + 50) / 300 / ((enchanting skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
Vanilla formula is actually somewhat decent here. However I added an extra multiplier so that if you disenchant some really expensive item it will give more experience, at the same time I added a reduction based on skill, the higher level you get the less disenchant will benefit you as a way to level up.
Alchemy formula
Vanilla formula: ??? (complicated mess)
New formula: 2 * (sum of ingredient cost)^1.2 * (ingredient count)^2 / ((alchemy skill + 10) * 0.05 + 1)
I have a very big problem with the vanilla alchemy level up formula. It depends solely on the value of the potion you created regardless if you used the most expensive and rarest ingredients to make it. The new formula will depend only on the cost of ingredients and the amount of ingredients used rather than what the potion ended up being. Another problem with vanilla method is that the more you level up alchemy and put perks in it the more XP you get because your potions will be stronger, this is not good. With the new formula it's always beneficial to use more than two ingredients for leveling up because it gives much more experience and taking perks in Alchemy skill tree does not change the amount of XP you get.
If alchemy leveling seems too slow change the 0.05 to 0.02 or even 0.01 (lower is faster leveling). The value is in the configuration file, and it's called AlchemyXPSkillMult
Configuration
You can enable/disable and change all aspects of the formulas used with the configuration file at /Data/NetScriptFramework/Plugins/CraftingSkill.config.txt
Examples of how it changed from vanilla
Smithing
skill 20:
iron dagger: 38.4 -> 15.1
iron battleaxe: 65.6 -> 58.1
ebony dagger: 144.6 -> 303.6
ebony battleaxe: 385.7 -> 1760.2
skill 80:
iron dagger: 38.4 -> 6.9
iron battleaxe: 65.6 -> 26.4
ebony dagger: 144.6 -> 138.0
ebony battleaxe: 385.7 -> 800.1
Tempering
skill 20:
iron dagger: 5.7 -> 6.8
iron battleaxe: 11.4 -> 6.8
ebony dagger: 26.5 -> 198.1
ebony battleaxe: 69.0 -> 198.1
skill 80:
iron dagger: 17.1 -> 3.1
iron battleaxe: 34.1 -> 3.1
ebony dagger: 132.6 -> 90.0
ebony battleaxe: 345.2 -> 90.0
Enchanting
skill 20:
iron dagger + common soulgem: 1 -> 0.11
iron dagger + grand soulgem: 1 -> 0.37
ebony battleaxe + common soulgem: 1 -> 1.69
ebony battleaxe + grand soulgem: 1 -> 5.62
skill 80:
iron dagger + common soulgem: 1 -> 0.05
iron dagger + grand soulgem: 1 -> 0.17
ebony battleaxe + common soulgem: 1 -> 0.77
ebony battleaxe + grand soulgem: 1 -> 2.6
Disenchanting
skill 20:
iron dagger + damage stamina: 0.074 -> 0.006
ebony battleaxe + damage stamina: 0.101 -> 0.161
skill 80:
iron dagger + damage stamina: 0.074 -> 0.003
ebony battleaxe + damage stamina: 0.101 -> 0.073
Alchemy
skill 20:
wheat + blue mountain flower (restore health and fortify health): 75.4 -> 33.06
wheat + blue mountain flower + rock warbler egg: 75.4 -> 100.6
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg (invisibility): 190.9 -> 189.5
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg + nirnroot (invisibility): 221.14 -> 602.3
frost salts + moon sugar (weakness to fire): 112.0 -> 1307.6
daedra heart + ash hopper jelly + wheat: 128.2 -> 6088.8
skill 80:
wheat + blue mountain flower (restore health and fortify health): 279.2 -> 15.0
wheat + blue mountain flower + rock warbler egg: 279.2 -> 45.7
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg (invisibility): 665.3 -> 86.1
ash creep cluster + chaurus egg + nirnroot (invisibility): 752.4 -> 273.8
frost salts + moon sugar (weakness to fire): 398.8 -> 594.3
daedra heart + ash hopper jelly + wheat: 457.9 -> 2767.6
Compatibility
This mod is compatible with all custom craftings and other ESP/ESM/ESL mods. This mod will overwrite the formula if enabled and the game settings related to these skills will not be used! Example game setting fDisenchantSkillUse will be ignored if DisenchantFormula is enabled in this mod's configuration file.