Remember: if you are upgrading to versions 0.10.0 or higher from any lower version, please make sure you do not have any Penitus Oculatus quest active other than "Penitus Oculatus." Upgrade the mod after you have cleared these quests from your quest log.
After I do the "destroy the dark brotherood" quest and turn it into maro, he doesn't talk to me further. Then when I exit and I try fast travelling or entering a new cell, I get an instant crash to desktop. The only time it happens is with the "destroy the dark brotherhood" quest and there are 0 other mods that modify this quest for me. So it has to be this mod. Any ideas?
Well it magically doesn't crash any more, but talking to Maro after finishing the quest gives me the line about the emperor and I can't get the quest to start this mod as it says in the general info...
I did notice that USSEP is in the requirements, but people asked in the comments multiple times if it's a "must" since many mods just place it there even if its optional. They didn't get an answer and didn't seem to add further comments, so I assumed it was possible without USSEP.
However, there absolutely is a problem linked with this mod for me. Maro still gives me the "I'll make sure the emperor hears about..." line and after talking to him, the game will freeze within 5 minutes. No matter what I do, if I talk to him then do something totally different - it freezes.
Is it safe to assume that's because I don't have USSEP? Is there a fix? I'm mostly regretful that I was picking between brotherhood of old or penitus oculatus for my playthrough but I already killed the dark brotherhood so I'm guessing the former isn't possible and if this one is bugged then I can do neither :/
Let me say what wSkeever is too nice to. You decided not to install a requirement because of unanswered posts which makes no sense. You then complained about it being broken with an issue wSkeever told you CAN'T BE HIS MOD and you ignored him and continued to pester him to fix or diagnose an issue for you which is not his job. Modding is largely not consumer friendly plug and play. People with hundreds of mods spend dozens or hundreds of hours researching, testing, and FIXING THEIR OWN PROBLEMS. So please understand modding requires effort and time OR an acceptance that if something doesn't work and you aren't willing to learn how to fix it then it's best for you to just move on not get hung up on it.
And I really can't stress enough, if doing all this is how you normally approach learning and troubleshooting then you're in for a rough life. The thing about not installing USSEP because of unanswered posts in bonkers. And then blaming others for your mistake and not being appreciative at all is entitled and inconsiderate. Please try to be a better member of this community.
USSEP is in the required files section which you should be checking for every mod you install. Another prompt to install USSEP pops up when you try to install this mod in the files section. No surprise you are facing issues with your game.
I assume the quest is still doable if the player is in the Stormcloaks? Regardless, it seems that might be a bit immersion breaking... Is anyone who has played through the mod able to say if the dialogue/content of the quests would conflict narrative wise with a Stormcloak character? Is it potentially feasible that the player character would side with the Empire to rid Skyrim of the Dark Brotherhood threat despite their Stormcloak allegiance?
As a side note, a good idea for any potential update, or a separate mod for the author or someone else to make would be a Stormcloak equivalent, or to include some content with the Stormcloaks and Penitus Oculatus working together with the Dragonborn to exterminate the DB. That's if it isn't already included in the mod, of course :)
This mod looks awesome for my next play through. It will go great with my Thieves Guild for Good Guys and The Companions - Earn Your Stripes.
It also appears this mod creates new NPCs for Babette and Cicero. The good is that it one conflict with NPC replacers but it also won't use those NPC replacer mods.
Cicero inherits from vanilla Cicero so the new Cicero will take on whatever Cicero mod you have.
Babette needed to be a new race so she is killable, so I cannot inherit from the OG Babette. But you won't be able see both Babette's in a single playthrough, so I thought it was ok.
I really like the RS Children Babette - a perfect little monster - and missed her when I played through Penitus Oculatus, so I threw together a patch. It is as of yet untested, so caveat emptor(!), but it should apply her RS Children look. I also took the liberty of boosting her stats a bit by i) applying some vampire racial perks, ii) giving her a bit more magicka, iii) giving her more regen, and iv) setting her to a min lv30 and lv scaling 1.2. She's going to be a fight and half.
Note that the patch requires RS Children, but is compatible with other overhauls that affect Babette (e.g. RRSC or Dibella's Blessing - Children of the North). In that case, she'll look different when following the DB and PO questlines, i.e. this patch changes her appearance for the PO quest line only.
The patch also includes a SPID distribution for her outfit to work with the SPID version of Prince and Pauper Refine.
Awesome mod! Finally a somewhat distinct look for that "outpost" farmhouse! :D
Sorry to hijack this comments section - @HamsterSensei12 thank you for that patch! I hope it actually works, hehe :P
I'm not using SPID and Prince and Pauper Refine, so that POBabette_DISTR.ini file won't do anything / will not cause problems, right? Or should I just remove it to be safe?
The patch works (on my end, anyway). :) I just uploaded the wrong version, and then immediately thought "Wait a minute..."
As for the SPID - no. SPID inis don't do anything by themselves (and are harmless even if you do have SPID but not the relevant mod). So you'll just get Babette with the RS children outfit. Feel free to delete or ignore it.
But again - fair warning - she's going to be a fairly tough fight (by Skyrim standards...).
Kudos given, HamsterSensei12. I'm working on adding this quest to my mod list and I need to figure out the whole people replacer issue. You've saved me one headache. Your patch really needs to be uploaded to Nexus and made official so people can find it.
Im making a themed character and this mod is perfect for it. An Imperial Necromancer that gives Imperial soldiers the opportunity to "serve after death"...as well as "Soul Sentencing" The enemies of the Empire.
Really enjoyed this quest mod, it fleshed out the dark brotherhood cleansing and access to items you would otherwise miss is a nice touch. Just wanted to check if there's a way to remove "Penitus Oculatus" from my quest log now I'm done with the quest line?
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how do I install this mod to work as it should?
However, there absolutely is a problem linked with this mod for me. Maro still gives me the "I'll make sure the emperor hears about..." line and after talking to him, the game will freeze within 5 minutes. No matter what I do, if I talk to him then do something totally different - it freezes.
Is it safe to assume that's because I don't have USSEP? Is there a fix? I'm mostly regretful that I was picking between brotherhood of old or penitus oculatus for my playthrough but I already killed the dark brotherhood so I'm guessing the former isn't possible and if this one is bugged then I can do neither :/
Since this doesn't happen to me, I can't fix it. Feel free to investigate the issue yourself.
Perhaps ussep changed the dialog type for maro to be non-exclusive, which is needed to prevent the blocking of other branches. You can check in xedit
And I really can't stress enough, if doing all this is how you normally approach learning and troubleshooting then you're in for a rough life. The thing about not installing USSEP because of unanswered posts in bonkers. And then blaming others for your mistake and not being appreciative at all is entitled and inconsiderate. Please try to be a better member of this community.
Now, you are free to test it without it, but dont bother the author with it.
As a side note, a good idea for any potential update, or a separate mod for the author or someone else to make would be a Stormcloak equivalent, or to include some content with the Stormcloaks and Penitus Oculatus working together with the Dragonborn to exterminate the DB. That's if it isn't already included in the mod, of course :)
It also appears this mod creates new NPCs for Babette and Cicero. The good is that it one conflict with NPC replacers but it also won't use those NPC replacer mods.
Babette needed to be a new race so she is killable, so I cannot inherit from the OG Babette. But you won't be able see both Babette's in a single playthrough, so I thought it was ok.
Note that the patch requires RS Children, but is compatible with other overhauls that affect Babette (e.g. RRSC or Dibella's Blessing - Children of the North). In that case, she'll look different when following the DB and PO questlines, i.e. this patch changes her appearance for the PO quest line only.
The patch also includes a SPID distribution for her outfit to work with the SPID version of Prince and Pauper Refine.
The patch can be found here.
Feel free to share.
Edit: They say the best way to spot mistakes is to hit the "submit" button. Its very true...
Sorry to hijack this comments section - @HamsterSensei12 thank you for that patch! I hope it actually works, hehe :P
I'm not using SPID and Prince and Pauper Refine, so that POBabette_DISTR.ini file won't do anything / will not cause problems, right? Or should I just remove it to be safe?
As for the SPID - no. SPID inis don't do anything by themselves (and are harmless even if you do have SPID but not the relevant mod). So you'll just get Babette with the RS children outfit. Feel free to delete or ignore it.
But again - fair warning - she's going to be a fairly tough fight (by Skyrim standards...).