After some years I uploaded a new version for better compatibility with other mods and to provide a "simpler" version without any feature creep, e.g. I removed the edits to the arch-mage quarter doors.
In this way this should be compatible with any collegue overhaul out of the box without the need for any compatbility patches. If you don't like the change or not using any college overhauls, you can simply ignore this update, the versions are otherwise identical.
Having issue where Mirabelle Ervine, once you resume collage tour, she gets stuck saying "After I finish showing you the grounds we can talk." So the collage questline cant be started. Possible that this mod causing this?
Seems a vampire attack on Mirabelle mid tour got her stuck and getting the tour during daylight hours fixed the issue.
Thank you for this mod, it always bothered me that the mages college questline was forced upon me even if it didn't make sense for my character to join the college, and it's great to finally have a solution. The 'visitors pass' mod for oldrim was a bit clunky and this solution is much cleaner imo.
Regarding this: "With exception of some followers, you can complete any (radiant) sidequests like the master ritual quests and trade with their vendors without starting the college questline."
What about the restored radiant quests from Cutting Room Floor?
I have discovered that this mod conflicts with Not So Fast - Mages Guild. Both mods touch the script QF_MG04_0001F254 and while this mod will work as intended, it breaks the delay between the wards lecture and the Saarthal expedition. I thought you should know in case a patch was possible. :)
[00:00] Checking for Errors in [A6] CollegeModifications.esp [00:00] [REFR:00109680] (places WinterholdLDoor01 "Door" [DOOR:00107EFE] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92]) [00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:00077D7F] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])"> [00:00] [REFR:00109685] (places WinterholdLDoorMinUse "Door" [DOOR:0010E866] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92]) [00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:00077D7F] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])"> [00:00] [REFR:00109686] (places WinterholdLDoorMinUse "Door" [DOOR:0010E866] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92]) [00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:00077D7F] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])"> [00:00] CollegeArchMageArcanaeumDoor [REFR:0010967F] (places WinterholdLDoor01 "Door" [DOOR:00107EFE] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArcanaeum "The Arcanaeum" [CELL:00013810]) [00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:000784D2] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArcanaeum "The Arcanaeum" [CELL:00013810])"> [00:00] All Done!
ICoW moves or modifies the doors that this patch unlocks, so I think a patch would be needed to make sure both mod's changes carry forward. As far as being able to walk the college grounds and talk with Tofdir without triggering the college questline: They work together as far as I can see from about fifteen minutes of testing.
Don't forget that you need to join the college to get the best spells and complete the sidequest the Forbidden Legend Quest as well as to get the Slow Time Shout. Very annoying indeed.
I sure do wish I had this mod when I was doing my Harbringer Character :(
Progress is 300+ hours late for me. But wonderful contribution to the Nexus nonetheless.
Actually, is there a way beyond Console to transfer the shout outside of the College associated dungeon? Maybe scrawl it on a pillar under the bridge?
True. But I didn't touch forbiggend Legends quest yet. Those other mods that allow access to Saarthal are incomplete in not removing or work arround the invincibility problem against the draugr boss
So you planned to make all Quests and Dungeons associated with the college accessible? That would be really awesome for roleplaying. I never liked the fact that you have to join the college for some Quests.
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In this way this should be compatible with any collegue overhaul out of the box without the need for any compatbility patches. If you don't like the change or not using any college overhauls, you can simply ignore this update, the versions are otherwise identical.
Seems a vampire attack on Mirabelle mid tour got her stuck and getting the tour during daylight hours fixed the issue.
What about the restored radiant quests from Cutting Room Floor?
[00:00] Checking for Errors in [A6] CollegeModifications.esp
[00:00] [REFR:00109680] (places WinterholdLDoor01 "Door" [DOOR:00107EFE] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])
[00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:00077D7F] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])">
[00:00] [REFR:00109685] (places WinterholdLDoorMinUse "Door" [DOOR:0010E866] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])
[00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:00077D7F] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])">
[00:00] [REFR:00109686] (places WinterholdLDoorMinUse "Door" [DOOR:0010E866] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])
[00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:00077D7F] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArchMageQuarters "Arch-Mage's Quarters" [CELL:000CAB92])">
[00:00] CollegeArchMageArcanaeumDoor [REFR:0010967F] (places WinterholdLDoor01 "Door" [DOOR:00107EFE] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of WinterholdCollegeArcanaeum "The Arcanaeum" [CELL:00013810])
[00:00] REFR \ XNDP - Navigation Door Link \ Teleport Marker Triangle -> <Warning: Navmesh triangle not found in "[NAVM:000784D2] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdCollegeArcanaeum "The Arcanaeum" [CELL:00013810])">
[00:00] All Done!
I sure do wish I had this mod when I was doing my Harbringer Character :(
Progress is 300+ hours late for me. But wonderful contribution to the Nexus nonetheless.
Actually, is there a way beyond Console to transfer the shout outside of the College associated dungeon? Maybe scrawl it on a pillar under the bridge?