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  1. Ionas177
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    Hey guys! I just wanted to make a quick note that LoD has kindly entrusted me with the maintenance of this mod, so I will be doing my best to keep it up to date and answer any questions that you might have :)

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    ***As of version 4.0 a few major changes have been made that might cause a bit of confusion for some, so I would like to provide an explanation to make things a bit easier. Basically, there are four main situations that you might be in depending on which mods you have/don't have loaded, so I will cover them in order from least to most confusing:

    ~You have no major weather overhauls loaded. Simply download the vanilla version of this fix and you're good to go!

    ~You have only one major weather overhaul loaded, not including True Storms (covered in the next section). In this case, your load order should look like this:
    -MyFavoriteWeatherMod.esp (Either Dolomite, Vivid, NAT, Obsidian, Mythical Ages, Rustic, Aequinoctium, or Surreal Lighting)
    -MyFavoriteWeatherMod Water Fix.esp
    -Wet&Cold Water Fix Addon.esp (If you are also using Wet&Cold, but otherwise completely optional)

    ~You have only True Storms loaded, or only True Storms and Wet&Cold WITHOUT any other big weather mods. I'm covering this on its own because its a bit of a special case, so here is what your load order should look like:
    -TrueStormsSE.esp
    -TrueStorms Water Fix.esp
    -TrueStorms + Wet&Cold Compatibility Patch.esp (Only if you are also using Wet&Cold. Can be found on the same page as the Wet&Cold water fix addon)
    -Wet&Cold Water Fix Addon.esp (Only if also using Wet&Cold)

    ~You have both True Storms and another weather mod loaded and are using one of my patches to make them compatible, along with (or without) Wet&Cold. This is where things start to look confusing, but in essence, this is what your load order should look like, using an NAT + True Storms setup as an example:
    -NAT.esp
    -TrueStormsSE.esp
    -NAT + TrueStorms Patch - Water's Edge Fix Version.esp (To be used on its own instead of this main water fix plugin. Can be found on the respective patch page)
    -Wet&Cold +TrueStorms Compatibility Patch.esp (Which can either be found on its own separate page or included with the True Storms patch)
    -Wet&Cold Water's Edge Fix Addon.esp (Can be found on the same page as the above)

    **Do note that Wet&Cold can generally be loaded in any order here as long as it's above the Wet&Cold specific patches. As a general rule of thumb, you can trust LOOT to sort these out for you, so all you really need to worry about is getting the right patches for your particular needs.

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    Also, just a friendly reminder that there is a bug section. It is 1,000 times easier for authors to fix and keep track of bugs and glitches when you post them in the bug report section, rather than in the comments, so if you find any strange visual glitches or places where the mod isn't working, please post it there instead of in the comments :) It would be greatly appreciated. If you do, please remember to mention what setup you have, which version you are using, and if you are using an ENB. Thank you!
  2. Ionas177
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    Up to date for these versions of all related mods:
    (marked with ~ if needs minor updates, but still completely usable)

    Surreal Lighting - V20
    ~Rustic Weathers - V32
    Mythical Ages - V1.05
    Dolomite Weathers - V1.6
    Obsidian Weathers - V1.05
    ~Aequinoctium Weathers - V1.64
    Natural and Atmospheric Tamriel - V0.4.2c
    Vivid Weathers Definitive Edition - V2.30
    True Storms SSE - V1.01 **Most likely will not update again anytime soon.

    **I do plan on keeping this up to date with the latest versions, but as I have quite a few other patches to manage at this point, I would greatly appreciate any friendly reminders if it seems as though I missed an update :) Thank you!
  3. georgerowley
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    Cathedral Weathers and Seasons option would be great please :)
    1. Ionas177
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      Will definitely look into it for the next update :)
    2. odikzz2
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      Yes please
    3. younmountain
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      That sounds awesome.
    4. prime2009
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      that be nice...
  4. Littlepanda115
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    Noticed my water's edge looked awful - so I downloaded this. I installed it, ran the game and marvelled at how much better it looked. I opened the Nexus back up and came to this page to leave a comment and endorsement, only to notice...

    This is for Special Edition. I use Oldrim.

    Welp, it works - thank you!
    1. Ionas177
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      Well that's good to finally have confirmed, thanks! Glad to hear it works for you :)
  5. Spatulator2000
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    I am really enjoying this mod, thank you LoD7995. I want to point out that to me this is a performance boosting mod. The fog pushback is just right and I am honestly not using this as a water edge fix. This mod, together with Ethereal clouds and Obsidian mountain fogs makes for a nice distant fog effect that boosted my fps. There really aren't many options on nexus for outdoor fog reduction.
  6. NuttertoolsThe
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    snow wind looks for me too bright with this mod (true storms version): https://imgur.com/a/klsc08F
    anyone else have it? how can i fix that?
    1. Ionas177
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      Are you sure that this issue is caused by this mod? The only thing water's edge fix does is reduce the amount of fog in your weathers, it shouldn't affect the brightness in any way.
    2. NuttertoolsThe
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      sorry, i tried just true storms and your fix, i has no issue. that weird brightness seems appears when i using this - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/15632
      (True Storms - Wet and Cold Compatibility + wet and cold water fix)
    3. NuttertoolsThe
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      now i made another test and i can approve that issue in your mod (TrueStormsWaterFix.esp)
      1st screen: truestorms only
      2nd screen: truestorms+ waterfix (truestormsversion, sure)
      3rd screen: truestorms+ waterfix, one second later
      https://imgur.com/a/0kk2Tmf
      it seems like, as you said, you reduced fog, and that fog hides this brightness behind himself
      p.s. tested truestorms no fog version - no difference.
    4. Ionas177
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      Huh, that's very odd, I'll run some tests and figure out the culprit. Thanks for pointing this out! :)
  7. HardcoreQuaker
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    Thanks for the patch! For clarification though: Is your patch still needed for the new version of "Obsidian Weathers" (v1.07)?
    1. Ionas177
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      I'm super sorry for the delay on the response, but yes, you can still use this mod with the new version of Obsidian Weathers, there are just a few things that need to be tweaked in the next update but it won't cause any stability issues :)
  8. HappySchizo
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    I wanted to use this as the 'closer' mod in my list (currently 776), but the tradeoff's making it hard to decide. In one hand I have an absolutely stunning mod that allows for seamless water to ground transition, and on the other, the stupid fog things that I even made the effort to download a sizable shitton of mods for.

    WAT DO
  9. Varil92
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    The problem with this mod is that it removes all the fog :(
    1. Ionas177
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      Yes, that's the unfortunate trade-off. It's the only way we've found to completely remove the water edge no matter the weather. There's a disclaimer about it in the description though, so hopefully it doesn't come as too much of a surprise :)
  10. JonnyWang13
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    How transparent does water need to be in order for this to work? And is it through water fog colors or distance?
    1. LoD7995
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      I'm not sure how RWT achieves its edge transparency. You'd have to ask isoku or determine the relevant records by trial and error.
  11. kranazoli
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    Hi,

    What about Climates of Tamriel?
    Not needed?

    Or?!

    Thank You!

    Edited:

    " I only use Climates of Tamriel(Also RLO), should i use vanilla file? Thanks in advance

    No, it won't work.

    Oh i forgot to mention i do use RWT, then is this mod not compatible with CoT?

    No, it isn't. Never got permission for it. "

    "Nice Commuity" :/

    Wet & Cold Standalone Waters Edge Fix, work?!
    1. Ionas177
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      Hello :) No, unfortunately there is no compatibility for CoT at this time. CoT is not being maintained anymore and completely replaces all of the vanilla weathers, so making anything compatible with it is a bit of a nightmare. I would say you are probably better off trying out a new weather overhaul for the time being if you are concerned about compatibility with other mods, as CoT will cause a lot of issues for you in that department. Sorry about the trouble :(
    2. KillerHell
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      Damn, that's sad.

      Anyway, if CoT is really unmaintained, which would you recommend that works simarly to CoT? Vivid Weathers, Natural and Atmospheric Tamriel?
    3. Ionas177
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      I would say Obsidian Weathers is probably your best bet for a weather overhaul with a similar scope to CoT, NAT a close second, although NAT is also falling a bit behind in its updates.

      Vivid is certainly up there as well with a huge variety of weathers, but I usually don't suggest it first for an alternative to CoT as it has very bland storms (in my opinion) compared to CoT, which has always had fantastic storms.

      If those three don't work for you, then I'd actually suggest giving Rustic Weathers a shot as well :) After working with it quite a bit, I'm of the opinion that Rustic is a very underrated overhaul for the features that it provides, and the aesthetic of its weathers strikes a nice balance between vivid fantasy and gritty realism. I hope that helps ^^
    4. KillerHell
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      "and the aesthetic of its weathers strikes a nice balance between vivid fantasy and gritty realism."

      I'm all in for a mix of realism & fantasy myself, I will go ahead and give Rustic Weathers a try.

      Thank you for the suggestion.
  12. pmunito
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    Works with pure waters by laast? i don't like the realistic water two mod
    1. Ionas177
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      I actually have not tested that one myself, so I couldn't say for certain if it would. The main reason for using realistic water 2 is to avoid the vanilla water, as this fix doesn't work on it at all. In theory it should work fine with other water mods aside from realistic water 2, but it's very easy to test it out if you'd like to be sure :) Load order doesn't even matter, just try loading a save near water in foggy weather both with and without the water's edge fix esp, if you don't see any differences with the blocky water edge then you'll know that it doesn't work well with pure waters. The console command to force foggy weather is "fw c821e" if you don't want to wait around for the weather to change :)
    2. ianjoseph1986
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      i have tried it. the mod doesnt work with pure waters. at least to me.
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