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to all site admins and mod users again as i already said:

1. people can use a hyperlink to my mod page if they like my mod and want to promote it. that would be ok for me.
2. please stop these insuling ripped mod copies of other ones work with uncontrollable and always outdated uploads on your site(s)!
3. no mod author really needs or wants such kind of mod copies. it's just an always outdated mess of translated text, files and pictures!
4. we all know that updating mods does not work with ripped copies. so again: use a hyperlink!
5. to site admins: i assume that you ban users doing such mod rips more than once. if not you can be sure i will put your site from now on into a blacklist here in this thread! thank you for understanding!
I respect you, please respect me!

i introduce all honest mod users to pm me or let me somehow know if they have knowlege of uploaded mod copies or sites with undoubtly mod abuse friendly behaviour.

some words to mod collections:
i see little advantages and just impatient users with the "i want it all and i do not care for the work of mod authors" and "copyright? - what is this ?" attitude. people who are incapable to handle a single mod and the dependencies will not act better or be more experienced by downloading a collection instead of testing mod by mod.
it's ok for me as long as they do it on their own risk and they don't expect wonders. even vortex can not do wonders. my modded games works stable for over two years now and i doubt you will share this kind of stability experience with xx new vortex collections versions and bug fixes. prove me if I'm wrong with this assumption. 
collection disadvantages: you will never experience the true fun of a mod and  you will never be one of the people who respect mod authors work they put in their mods they offer for free or give feedback to a single mod. the problem with this approach: collections and their stability risks are severely underrated. you get it fast but probably not for the solution for a collection problem. so happy fiddeling and believe me - i would be really glad if I´m wrong.

04. may 2022 not permitted upload reported:  https://katarina-ningheim-racemenu-presets.en.softonic.com/
07. june 2023 - the pirated and outdated copy still exists even after contacting the site 11 months ago


22. nov 2019 xrayy eye normal map fo4 without permission on 3dmgame.com
the sad thing is it is not the first time and the information in the not authorized mod copy is wrong and not up to date. it is exactly the scenario i wanted to exclude by restricting ripped copies of my mods on other sites. why do  people use an insulting ripped upload instead of just a simple and all time up to date date link to my mod page? I do not understand the motivation!  with jamies/FO4 words: in need a long, long break...
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23. vov 2019 thank you to 3dmgame.com administators for deleting the ripped copy of my mod ! i will take break from uploading mods and after so many ripped mods i hope you will take measures and find a way to prevent such annoying issues in the future.
you could do me a big favour to prevent copies of my mods on your site: just set a hyperlink of my mods on your site to promote them to your community. this would prevent any mod abuse and i would be sure your site does not support abuse. thank you!

05. nov. 2019:  another copy/upload of one of my mods. no one asked and it was never authorized
- i deleted this link because this site is known to spread harmful content -
15. dez 2019 seems to be deleted

27 sept .2019: again new illegal mod link deleted. thank you to the site administrator!


23 jan 2019:  a big thanks  to terry13143 of 3dmgame com letting me know that most of the links are now deleted!  thank you for your support!
Hopefully it shows all internet users that it's worth  not to surrender and trying to get in contact with each other to solve the problems together!
Thank you to all honest people for their support to respect each other!



it is ridiculous that some people think for unknown reasons they have the right to decide by themselves and without knowledge of the original author to create unauthorized site copies of other ones work and how it has to be treated and to be presented on some other site including unauthorized file upload an so on. i clearly say: no! you do not have the right to do that!
delete all your unautorized stuff instantly! if you want to support my mods ask me on nexusmods.com. be so kind and  pm me or use my mod threads instead of ignoring me. thank you very much!

if your friends do not speak english invite them to use google or any other translator to create an account on nexusmods.com and you can use all my mods freely and download them here on nexusmods.com 24/7 for private, noncommercial use !
chinese: 如果您的朋友不会说英语并邀请他们使用Google或任何其他翻译人员在nexus上创建帐户,您可以自由使用我所有的mod并在nexusmods.com上全天下载!
russian: Если ваши друзья не говорят по-английски, предложите им использовать Google или любой другой переводчик для создания учетной записи на Nexus, и вы можете свободно использовать все мои моды и загружать их здесь на nexusmods.com 24/7 для частного некоммерческого использования!

don't trust any other sites and uploaders offering outdated copies of my mods. They do it 100% against my wish and without authorization while disrespecting me as the original author!
不要相信任何其他网站和上传者提供我的mod的过时副本。他们100%违背我的意愿并且未经授权而不尊重我作为原始作者!
не доверяйте никаким другим сайтам и загрузчикам, предлагающим устаревшие копии моих модов. Они делают это на 100% против моего желания и без разрешения, не уважая меня как первоначального автора!

thank you for watching and reading  and to all faithful - i explicitly include all chinese and russian - modusers for the support over the years excluding the black sheeps!
感谢您的观看和阅读以及所有忠实的人 - 我明确地包括所有中国和俄罗斯 - 模块以支持多年来不包括黑羊!
Спасибо за просмотр и чтение, а также всем верующим - я явно включаю все
китайские и русские - модуляторы за поддержку на протяжении многих лет,
за исключением черных овец!

46 comments

  1. Terry13143
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    I think this is our second conversation.
    I deleted all mods related to you from mod.3dmgame.com through the console.
    In the future, I will more attention to the mod related to you during the review.
    If I find a mod related to you, I will delete it directly.
    If I have any omissions, please contact me by email: [email protected]?Because it will be a lot more efficient,I seldom come to nexusmods?
    Finally, I am very sorry for bringing you troubles.
    <img src="http://att.3dmgame.com/att/forum/201901/20/101226pgzmgaazza7g2ag1.jpg" width="100px" height="100px">
    1. xrayy
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      thank you very much for your attention. it would be nice, if people ask me first before spamming my mod content while ignoring my wishes as the mod creator and while creating a mess of outdated files, translations and pictures. a link to my mod page would be ok but ripping and uploading files without permission on your or any other site is a clear offence against the mod author!
      thank you for your email data!
      it would be also a big help if you could place a mod abuse button without the account restriction on your site in english language. in this case i would be able to support you finding and solving such issues. it is impossible for me to create an account on a chinese site. thanks again for your support! this time i will not delete your reply to be able to reach you if necessary. to show my respect to you helping me to get rid of these dirty links kudos to you!

      update 22 nov 2019
      hi terry, i'm really tired. your 3dm community still seems to ignore my wishes as a mod author. it seems your mod abuse filters for "xrayy" do not work or do not even exist. so people still upload my mods on your site without asking me and  without consequences against my clearly communicated wishes in red letters and even with the attached link to this thread here. i have no words for that. thank you for your attention! I'm sure you will find a way to prevent that one of my mods is uploaded again on your site without consequneces for the uploader. you are welcome to promote my mods with a hyperlink on your site while this will be the way to prevent further abuse of my mods on your site.
  2. Retrophyx
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    You know there's a big irony in making mods using other people's resources and then turning around and getting mad when someone share's your mod without credit.
    This whole post feels more like you just make mods to police drama.
    Should people be allowed to post someone else's work?
    Well how do you define stolen vs shared? 
    One thing is to plagiarize as someone else and the other is to simply relay what's already made.

    Especially online, if we took everything as copyright then the copy-paste function wouldn't exist as a feature.

    By far, this whole thing becomes even more ridiculous when you stop to consider this is a modding website where people literally do
    modifications on someone else's intellectual property -which was in itself once and still is illegal.
    Rather than getting upset about other people you should observe where a modder themselves came from -having companies mad at them
    for the same thing you are doing now.
    1. xrayy
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      do you know what respect and copyright is? i doubt.
      if i share a mod by distributing it without at least asking the source before doing it this means to simply ignore the source and the author and owner (and the related rights)
      i offer my permissions to everyone. i made my mods for free personal use - but explicitly not for free distribution - you should read and respect that - it is just that simple. anything else is what we all know as game piracy or in this case mod piracy. in many cases i'm not even allowed to give a global permission if i use resources limited to my mod and to me. so if people ask i can give them that info. if not and they think to distribute without permission it is a personal problem and in worst case it is plain piracy.

      i've never granted any permission  to distribute my mods freely, there is one exception - nexusmods granted this right itself by giving me the choice to stay or leave the site but it is the site where i offer my mods so i decided to stay.
      i'm not happy with the collection related changes in 2021 but because i like and use the site i accepted this change as a member.
      no one else has such a contract with me, especially no mod user!

      to say it clear: it is not about drama or irony at all, it's about rights (you seem not to know) and ownership, respect and and how to treat mod owners and their work. i grant you the lack of knowledge but that's all.
      i have a contract with the game company and nexusmods, you have simply nothing, no contract with me and my mods as a distributor just as a user for private use. so if you like to use my mods freely (that was the purpose of the upload) i also warn you to distribute the mod. this is a complete other story and in worst case it is simply piracy and a crime. if you want more than just to use the mod simply ask the owner (me and anyone credited as contributor with mod parts in my mod) for permission as long as nothing else is specifically allowed.

      to think you have the free right to distribute or upload my mods somewhere else but on nexusmods is a severe misinterpretation of freedom and the rights you have. a lack of knowledge or ignorance of (copy)right does not change anything. 
      nothing is rediculous and i hope my statement to this topic is clear now and please don't tell me nonsense. thank you for respecting me in future (i hope).
      i will respect you and and what you do with your mods. and i recommend at least to ask the owner before distributing things if do not know who owns them. and if i do wrong i apologize if you explain me why.
  3. benitoite
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    Thanks xrayy and Terry13143! I had the same problem, but thanks to you, I was able to solve it.
    1. xrayy
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      i'm glad it was useful for you i think the problem is not the site but some rediculous site users.
    2. benitoite
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      As my first step, I put a link to your image in the description of my mod. I hope people can know more about this.
  4. 3aq
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    you should simply start adding a readme or include a picture or xml fomod with all language stating where the file originated from that if they wish to support the authors to go to the source (or patraon/paypal/tumblr/etc.) you'll at least have the last say, as piracy will never stop, least of all in china.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for feedback and the hint! i will use the downtime of my mods for adding some info.
      the sad thing is that all my mods are free for private use and nexusmods offers a 24/7 option for download. there is in my opinion no reason for uploads on other sites instead of using a link to nexusmods. the only reason to upload on other sites is to ignore the work and wishes of most authors and to distribute out of date, unmanageable, never updated and sometimes buggy or contaminated files of others to others.
    2. Darklocq
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      This is probably about the best you can do, other than contacting site administrators and asking them to remove infringing files. I'm honestly skeptical that it's worth getting this worked-up about it. People who run rip-off sites are doing it for the advertising revenue, so they really don't care about you. Individual users who upload stuff elsewhere regardless of authors' wishes aren't usually "pirates" in any kind of malicious sense, but just clueless people who did not read the entire mod documentation, or who got the mod pirated already from some other site, or who don't fully understand the language the mod was released in. If people aren't claiming your work as their own, then about the worst that's going to happen is some players in China or Russia or some other country where content piracy of all kinds is rampant are going to run with old copies of your stuff and maybe have a less optimal experience. That could be mitigated a bit by making it really clear in your ReadMe files where to get the current version. But in the end, it's not your responsibility to ensure other people's games are perfect, and you needn't lose sleep over it.

      A side concern is that authors forbidding anyone to redistribute their material on other mod sites presumes that Nexus is going to live forever. Anyone who's been modding even just TES games going back to Morrowind knows this is not a safe bet. Around 95% of mod sites that had add-ons for Morrowind are long dead, and because of restrictive permissions many of the mods they housed are dead. This often causes chains of mod death (Mod A depends on Mod B which depends on Mod C, and C is now dead, so B and A are dead, too). Even the Morrowind Mod History site operated by Fliggerty has done only a little to preserve the mods that originated on now-dead old mod sites. The vast majority of the work of thousands of Morrowind modders has simply been lost. This is most unfortunate, because OpenMW has given Morrowind a whole lot of new life, as a game up to 2010s graphical standards. Future open-source projects will surely do likewise (e.g., in 2025 or 2030 there may be an OpenSK that permits Skyrim play on any platform and up to the expectations of players of games that are current at that time). If Nexus kicks the bucket, we (the player community) would lose tens of thousands of mods, at least, because no-redistribution is a default on this site, and encouraged (because Nexus, too, wants to make money on ads, so it has a vested interest in driving all mod traffic here and discouraging others from looking elsewhere). By contrast, take a look at how Linux and Unix free software distribution works: there are mirror sites all over the place. The documentation each piece of software comes with identifies the author(s) and where their "master" site is, and no one gives a damn (other than positively) that the software is also available from 3 or 12 or 100 other URLs.
    3. xrayy
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      thank you, Darklocq, for feedback! I'm fully aware that i reach only a fragment of the sites with black sheeps uploading stolen mod content.

      i don't think that nexusmods retires in the foreseeable future. so will have enough time to react if there is any sign of such a case. this site even already takes care (caretaker) for abandoned mod sites and mods and collects such mentioned mods.

      it is was my free decision until july the 5th 2021 to distribute or to delete my content and so it should be was my free decision to hide, delete or change it if i wanted to do so - in best case without erratic copies distributed in the meantime by ignorant or careless idiots people. if people are careless that does not mean that they are guiltless. i would never copy any stuff and distribute it on a platform if i do not understand what i do and so i assume that every intelligent human beeing would act in a comparable way. if this really happens accidentally i would assume people doing that would apologize - but instead they stalked me with fake accounts on nexusmods and called me "crybaby"- is this the way how show respect and that the full mod copy happened accidentally ? and why does such people do not simply ask before instead of ignoring the mod author if they are obviously able to launch a fake account? many questions and no answers...
  5. xrayy
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    in january i added big red letters to all of my mods as teaser. what happend: nothing. users on 3dmgame.com still ignoring me including the big red letters. found the the next full copied mod uploaded in july without permission on 3dmgame.com. i am really not amused.

    my maryl follower mod: https://mod.3dmgame.com/mod/135735

    Terry, please delete this stolen stuff instantly! thank you!
  6. zakhurlifesbane
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    Hmmm, read this and re-read the posts. It occurs to me that one way the thefts might stop is for a few files to carry payloads to the end users which shut down the game, just a little present from the "unauthorized" uploader. Of course, some uploaders are probably adding in a few gifts of their own to recruit computers into their zombie armies of computers, already. When people do not have the basic respect for authors to follow the free license instructions, they are already into the gray and headed for the black hat crowd.

    Feel free, everyone, to wander on over to https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.en.html. It is how we, in the free software community, protect our work from profiteers and from people who modify it for nefarious purposes. There are a series of licenses available which cover various purposes, but all of them are viral in nature, burdening the licensee with the same obligations, and freedoms as the original author. When I release software, and I hope no one modifies it by adding trojan horse thereto, and I haven't the money to sue the eyebrows off of someone who does, then I assign the copyright to the free software foundation, the organization that helped create the Public Licenses.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for your feedback. i still hope that my humble stuff does not need any kind of license. all i wan't is that people respect other peoples wishes concerning their work including me posting mods on a mod site. if not i will use this thread to let all people know what is going on.
  7. henswii
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    People have no shame. Fk this sh*t. It must feel really, really to put a lot of effort in a mod just to see a random guy reupload it in another website to make money (money = 1 dollar or MAYBE 2 dollars overall) with the ads. They don't appreciate you and your effort even a bit and this is what happens.

    I feel bad for not being able to enjoy your mods but you must feel even worse for being robbed like this. Sorry dude I feel you. I just hope that the backstab didn't made you lose interest in Skyrim and I hope you still love the game and the nexus community.

    Have a good day sir.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for your understanding! of couse feel free to enjoy my mods - if you play skyrim :)
      at the end i was really happy that the site admin of this site took care of my problem
  8. sharpsnare2
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    Have you ever seen South Park? There is an episode of the show where Token, a black boy, takes offense to Stan's father accidentally saying the 'N' word. Stan keeps apologizing for his father throughout the entire episode, saying that he is sorry and that he "gets it." But this just enrages Token throughout the whole ordeal. Because Stan is white, he will never ACTUALLY "get it," and he eventually comes to this realization.

    As a consumer of the mods, I won't ever understand your frustration because I will never be in your position. I've always just been a leech. I am sure it is heartbreaking to see your work stolen. At the end of the day, however, it is YOUR work. The community supports you 100% and future employers can even see this as a portfolio.

    It's frustrating for both you, the developer, and us, the members of the community, when your fantastic work is hidden. Too often have I come back to the game only to find my favorite mods hidden because of this same exact reason. I refuse to download them from a third party chinese knockoff site. It's incredibly disrespectful.

    But that's why I ask that you unhide your content again. Im completely new to Oblivion modding. First day, never posted a thing I think. Only ever modded Skyrim for a few years. It's a tragedy when we lose Skyrim content because cheap Chinese knockoff sites ripoff the authors. And Im only here for some dumb rope mod I think, but I'll personally endorse every mod you've ever released. I'm sure there are plenty of new members to Oblivion modding who would appreciate your content.

    Please reconsider, and thank you :)
    1. xrayy
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      many thanks for your feedback! it's important for me and for the 3rd party uploaders to see that modders and gamers suffer from situations like this and that it is has consequences if uploaders act disrespectful!

      if you as a consumer do not understand my frustration i give you an example:
      you are happy parents of a sweet child and suddenly you see somewhere else the exactly same child - a twin - but nobody has asked or told you that your child has a clone, an unknown twin (maybe stolen after birth ? or technically cloned ?), educated by some fully unknown other parents. how would you think about this discovery and how would you feel ? sure this example is more drastic but i hope you better understand what's wrong with this situation! the main problem in both situations is, nobody has spoken with you and asked you or somehow shared this information before with you and you are gradually (in this case more completely) losing your faith...
      if i share a mod, lets say a sweet female preset, with you - it's like a kind of a sweet baby mod, isn't it ? :) and if i share it with you and let you play or alter it for free and for private use because i'm trusting you and i know you like it, you are happy - so tell me: why people misuse this kind of trust between author and gamer ?
      what is their intention not to ask first ? I even allow and support people to use my mods for their personal use but not to clone or distribute them on other sites without permission. i really don't know why do not show a minimum of respect and fairness. there are maybe some, who would like to help. so the first thing i would do is to ask.support with a link to the original mod could be something. but showing complete ignorance and cloning the original site ? never ever!
      if you watch the image (omit the letters) - it shows the face of my current katarina ningheim preset - do you really think my motivation to create this or my other presets has something to do with supporting slaughter or violence or upload abuse ? you guess right: nothing! it's more a kind of a taste related and an emotional thing i'm offering. clearly nothing i want or need a 3rd party site for, distributing these mods to others undemanded, instead of me, the author.

      i will surely consider your wishes and be sure this pending situation will not last forever. but i hope you can wait patiently until we reach the goal that at least these listed dirty links with "unwanted clones" will be erased in the near future! your help and feedback is much appreciated and needed ! the problem in this case is that most downloaders on these sites are still not aware of these black sheeps and i want to change that at least regarding my mods.
  9. ReiTsuburaya
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    sooo, no rope mod then? :<
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for feedback! it's really important to me what you guys think!
      my rope mods are surely already uploaded somewhere by some 3rd party clown... no seriously: i will reactivate my rope mods if you ask for that.
      but it's a sensible case because i want to make the rediculously acting uploaders and potential sites aware that this can not be the way how things work!
      and i'm really surpised and annoyed that a big site like 3dmgame.com seems to be still not aware whats going on. this is the only reason why my mods are still hidden.
      so i will unhide my rope mods on your request. but be aware that if necessary i will hide my mods again temporaryly and also will revive this thread!
  10. cplortkl
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    it is really a shame that some people are still doing that.
    Hope 2019 will be a better year for you.

    Keep up the good work
    1. xrayy
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      happy new year and many thanks!
      yes it's a shame and it makes no sense apart from showing disrespect to the mod owner and creating another outdated illegal, maybe crappy copy in the www!
      i will get back to normal mode if this problem is fixed. cheers

  11. arghTease
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    sorry to hear of your troubles. i can understand your frustrations and this is one reason i ceased going forward with modding. here's to hoping the New Year will bring good your way
    1. xrayy
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      hey thank you! i take it easy but it is not ok what happens with our mods and i draw the consequences if necessary. there are many modders who suffer from that more than me.
      all the best in 2019 for you too!
  12. Metalsaber
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    Sorry to hear.It’s a shame that there are people that do this. I find it commendable that you are trying to get sites to remove your content even if its a futile effort.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for your feedback!