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23 jan 2019:  a big thanks  to terry13143 of 3dmgame com letting me know that most of the links are now deleted!  thank you for your support!
Hopefully it shows all internet users that it's worth  not to surrender and trying to get in contact with each other to solve the problems together!
Thank you to all honest people for their support to respect each other!



it is ridiculous that some people think for unknown reasons they have the right to decide by themselves and without knowledge of the original author to create unauthorized site copies of other ones work and how it has to be treated and to be presented on some other site including unauthorized file upload an so on. i clearly say: no! you do not have the right to do that!
delete all your unautorized stuff instantly! if you want to support my mods ask me on nexusmods.com. you may pm me or use the mod threads.

the big problem in this case is, that i prefer direct contact to my modusers and direct feedback! my mods, especiallly my presets are a personal thing!  i do not want, i do not ask for and i do not accept any 2nd or 3rd party sites between me and the users of my mods! and i do not accept or want anyone else who decides how to deal with my mods or the users of my mods! i do also need no undemanded support from anyone! so i hope my position is clear:
any content of my mods outside from nexusmods.com is definitely unauthorized if it is more than a reference or a link to my original mods on nexusmods.com. an exception is content explicitly authorized by me!


if someone has a problem he can directly ask here on nexusmods.com. each mod has it's own thread or threads for this purpose. i do not need and i do not want another uploader or site for that!
an important part of my motivation is to communicate directly and to get direct feedback from the gamers! this is a major reason and my motivation to create and optimize my mods!
and this is the main reason i do not allow uploads on any other site in almost all cases and so i have a big problem with disrespectful uploaders of my content. i'm sure every interested skyrim gamer, being able to install a game like skyrim,  including all chinese and russian gamers, is able to use google translator and should be able to download my mods from nexusmods.com. if not, he can ask me or someone else helps! i'm not an english native too and it works somehow! if anybody asks me to support me with a translation or an idea to simplify downlods on nexusmods.com - why not ? if someone kindly asks to simplify things or help others with finding my mod files - that's ok! direct and constructive feedback is welcome - feel free!
but everything else concerning my mods, excluding private use, needs my permisson! otherwise it is a clear violation of ownership and a severe case of ignorance and disrespect even if it happens for the second time!
nexusmods.com offers the translated modmanager "vortex" for chinese and russian gamers. this should enable all these gamers to download all kind if mods on nexusmods.com even if their english is weak.

why do i not allow 3rd party copies and uploads of my mod packages? clear answer: because i do not know any good reason for that even if you do not try to convince me or ask at least! allowing it would lead in almost all cases to foreseeable spam while generating a bunch problems, other uploads from uploads and in most cases this mess will never be updated anymore if the commercial success is established or if the site fails.
3rd party uploaders not asking are only interested in their personal benefit, 3rd party sites in high download rates, a growing community and more advertising benefit. so they are obviously not interested in a mod itself or it's quality or in supporing the author. they normally pick always the mods already successful on the original site or with the potential for higher downlod rates or many endorsements. so i really do not understand why they copied my humble content!
i hope this thread will help to make modusers aware of what they download and where they download mods before more and more frustrated modders quit modding due to more and more 3rd party sites or disrespectful 3rd party uploaders working just for their own benefit while producing a mess of out of date files! it's quite simple: no free mods without motivated modders offering their mods for free... 

since oct 2018 about 8 to 10 of my preset related mods or maybe more have been simply copied/uploaded to another site without asking or any permission . this means i finally can close my account because you can download all my stuff on the other site including endorsement and so on. there are even more sites or site users actiing in this rude way and from now on i'm tracking this from time to time! 

it is just a side effect but by the way this uploader has generated more than 20000 downloads and 4000 endorsements in this last two month with my mods  - if the numbers on the chinese site are correct!? and i wasn't even aware of that.

if your friends do not speak english invite them to use google or any other translator to create an account on nexusmods.com and you can use all my mods freely and download them here on nexusmods.com 24/7 for private, noncommercial use !
chinese: 如果您的朋友不会说英语并邀请他们使用Google或任何其他翻译人员在nexus上创建帐户,您可以自由使用我所有的mod并在nexusmods.com上全天下载!
russian: Если ваши друзья не говорят по-английски, предложите им использовать Google или любой другой переводчик для создания учетной записи на Nexus, и вы можете свободно использовать все мои моды и загружать их здесь на nexusmods.com 24/7 для частного некоммерческого использования!

don't trust any other sites and uploaders offering outdated copies of my mods. They do it 100% against my wish and without authorization while disrespecting me as the original author!
不要相信任何其他网站和上传者提供我的mod的过时副本。他们100%违背我的意愿并且未经授权而不尊重我作为原始作者!
не доверяйте никаким другим сайтам и загрузчикам, предлагающим устаревшие копии моих модов. Они делают это на 100% против моего желания и без разрешения, не уважая меня как первоначального автора!

thank you for watching and reading  and to all faithful - i explicitly include all chinese and russian - modusers for the support over the years excluding the black sheeps!
感谢您的观看和阅读以及所有忠实的人 - 我明确地包括所有中国和俄罗斯 - 模块以支持多年来不包括黑羊!
Спасибо за просмотр и чтение, а также всем верующим - я явно включаю все
китайские и русские - модуляторы за поддержку на протяжении многих лет,
за исключением черных овец!

36 comments

  1. Terry13143
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    I think this is our second conversation.
    I deleted all mods related to you from mod.3dmgame.com through the console.
    In the future, I will more attention to the mod related to you during the review.
    If I find a mod related to you, I will delete it directly.
    If I have any omissions, please contact me by email: mod@3dmgame.com?Because it will be a lot more efficient,I seldom come to nexusmods?
    Finally, I am very sorry for bringing you troubles.
    <img src="http://att.3dmgame.com/att/forum/201901/20/101226pgzmgaazza7g2ag1.jpg" width="100px" height="100px">
    1. xrayy
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      thank you very much for your attention. it would be nice, if people ask me first before spamming my content while ignoring my wishes as the mod creator.
      thank you for your email data.
      it would be also a big help if you could place a mod abuse button without the account restriction on your site in english language. in this case i would be able to support you finding and solving such issues. it is impossible for me to create an account on a chinese site. thanks again for your support! this time i will not delete your reply to be able to reach you if necessary. to show my respect to you helping me to get rid of these dirty links kudos to you!
  2. henswii
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    People have no shame. Fk this sh*t. It must feel really, really to put a lot of effort in a mod just to see a random guy reupload it in another website to make money (money = 1 dollar or MAYBE 2 dollars overall) with the ads. They don't appreciate you and your effort even a bit and this is what happens.

    I feel bad for not being able to enjoy your mods but you must feel even worse for being robbed like this. Sorry dude I feel you. I just hope that the backstab didn't made you lose interest in Skyrim and I hope you still love the game and the nexus community.

    Have a good day sir.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for your understanding! of couse feel free to enjoy my mods - if you play skyrim :)
      at the end i was really happy that the site admin of this site took care of my problem
  3. sharpsnare2
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    Have you ever seen South Park? There is an episode of the show where Token, a black boy, takes offense to Stan's father accidentally saying the 'N' word. Stan keeps apologizing for his father throughout the entire episode, saying that he is sorry and that he "gets it." But this just enrages Token throughout the whole ordeal. Because Stan is white, he will never ACTUALLY "get it," and he eventually comes to this realization.

    As a consumer of the mods, I won't ever understand your frustration because I will never be in your position. I've always just been a leech. I am sure it is heartbreaking to see your work stolen. At the end of the day, however, it is YOUR work. The community supports you 100% and future employers can even see this as a portfolio.

    It's frustrating for both you, the developer, and us, the members of the community, when your fantastic work is hidden. Too often have I come back to the game only to find my favorite mods hidden because of this same exact reason. I refuse to download them from a third party chinese knockoff site. It's incredibly disrespectful.

    But that's why I ask that you unhide your content again. Im completely new to Oblivion modding. First day, never posted a thing I think. Only ever modded Skyrim for a few years. It's a tragedy when we lose Skyrim content because cheap Chinese knockoff sites ripoff the authors. And Im only here for some dumb rope mod I think, but I'll personally endorse every mod you've ever released. I'm sure there are plenty of new members to Oblivion modding who would appreciate your content.

    Please reconsider, and thank you :)
    1. xrayy
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      many thanks for your feedback! it's important for me and for the 3rd party uploaders to see that modders and gamers suffer from situations like this and that it is has consequences if uploaders act disrespectful!

      if you as a consumer do not understand my frustration i give you an example:
      you are happy parents of a sweet child and suddenly you see somewhere else the exactly same child - a twin - but nobody has asked or told you that your child has a clone, an unknown twin (maybe stolen after birth ? or technically cloned ?), educated by some fully unknown other parents. how would you think about this discovery and how would you feel ? sure this example is more drastic but i hope you better understand what's wrong with this situation! the main problem in both situations is, nobody has spoken with you and asked you or somehow shared this information before with you and you are gradually (in this case more completely) losing your faith...
      if i share a mod, lets say a sweet female preset, with you - it's like a kind of a sweet baby mod, isn't it ? and if i share it with you and let you play or alter it for free and for private use because i'm trusting you and i know you like it, you are happy - so tell me: why people misuse this kind of trust between author and gamer ? what is their intention ? i really don't know. there are maybe some, who would like to help. so the first thing i would do is to ask.support with a link to the original mod could be something. but showing complete ignorance and cloning the original site ? never ever!
      if you watch the image (omit the letters) - it shows the face of my current katarina ningheim preset - do you really think my motivation to create this or my other presets has something to do with supporting slaughter or violence or upload abuse ? you guess right: nothing! it's more a kind of a taste related and an emotional thing i'm offering. clearly nothing i want or need a 3rd party site for, distributing these mods to others undemanded, instead of me, the author.

      i will surely consider your wishes and be sure this pending situation will not last forever. but i hope you can wait patiently until we reach the goal that at least these listed dirty links with "unwanted clones" will be erased in the near future! your help and feedback is much appreciated and needed ! the problem in this case is that most downloaders on these sites are still not aware of these black sheeps and i want to change that at least regarding my mods.
  4. ReiTsuburaya
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    sooo, no rope mod then? :<
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for feedback! it's really important to me what you guys think!
      my rope mods are surely already uploaded somewhere by some 3rd party clown... no seriously: i will reactivate my rope mods if you ask for that.
      but it's a sensible case because i want to make the rediculously acting uploaders and potential sites aware that this can not be the way how things work!
      and i'm really surpised and annoyed that a big site like 3dmgame.com seems to be still not aware whats going on. this is the only reason why my mods are still hidden.
      so i will unhide my rope mods on your request. but be aware that if necessary i will hide my mods again temporaryly and also will revive this thread!
  5. cplortkl
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    it is really a shame that some people are still doing that.
    Hope 2019 will be a better year for you.

    Keep up the good work
    1. xrayy
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      happy new year and many thanks!
      yes it's a shame and it makes no sense apart from showing disrespect to the mod owner and creating another outdated illegal, maybe crappy copy in the www!
      i will get back to normal mode if this problem is fixed. cheers

  6. rth119
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    sorry to hear of your troubles. i can understand your frustrations and this is one reason i ceased going forward with modding. here's to hoping the New Year will bring good your way
    1. xrayy
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      hey thank you! i take it easy but it is not ok what happens with our mods and i draw the consequences if necessary. there are many modders who suffer from that more than me.
      all the best in 2019 for you too!
  7. 3aq
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    you should simply start adding a readme or include a picture or xml fomod with all language stating where the file originated from that if they wish to support the authors to go to the source (or patraon/paypal/tumblr/etc.) you'll at least have the last say, as piracy will never stop, least of all in china.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for feedback and the hint! i will use the downtime of my mods for adding some info.
      the sad thing is that all my mods are free for private use and nexusmods offers a 24/7 option for download. there is in my opinion no reason for uploads on other sites instead of using a link to nexusmods. the only reason to upload on other sites is to ignore the work and wishes of most authors and to distribute out of date, unmanageable, never updated and sometimes buggy or contaminated files of others to others.
  8. Metalsaber
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    Sorry to hear.It’s a shame that there are people that do this. I find it commendable that you are trying to get sites to remove your content even if its a futile effort.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for your feedback!
  9. gordon21121964
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    It is a shame that in this digital age this is happening way to often , We benefit from the technology and we can lose so much to it , Hope you get a solution to it and stay with us on nexus , I for one only use majority nexus mods , perhaps it is time Nexus found a way to deal with this type of theft . Hope your New Year is abetter one
    1. soereide93
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      I agree. Though i know its a pretty big ask from the nexus crew to make them hit down on every other sites. In an ideal world i would want to see ONE page where we all post mods on. There is so much that you rarely ever see or hear about cause they get posted in lesser known forums and private pages.
      But you just cant make this happen. Its not possible. And for theft, yeah it sucks, and its utterly respectless. I hate it. But its never going to stop. You cant force people to abide by one law.
      I'm sorry to say it, though i sympitize for you. You either live with the fact that its happening or you dont.
    2. xrayy
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      thank you for feedback! i couldn't blame nexusmods for that but it would be fine if someone has a good idea to stop that. i hope my way to bring this to public attention on nexusmods combined with your feedback helps a little bit. maybe an optional translation tab of some basic site features like how to create an account and how to to download a mod file would help. i know that nobody can solve this problem 100%.
      i'm also sure nobody needs hundreds of out of date copies of a mod to download. the goal must be that one site hosts the original mod and all other sites could set a link without tolerating - unauthorized - uploads of mod copies.
  10. ajhardy
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    China has no laws to prevent this. It also does not have a culture that sees it as wrong. Please, I am not saying it is okay or even excusing this. This is just an explanation of why it is happening and knowing why something is happening rarely makes one feel better. It is helpful though. Skyrim is a worldwide phenomena and this is bound to happen when you produce a good product. I am truly sorry this is happening to you.
    1. xrayy
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      thank you for your feedback. i don't want to put all people of one nation under general suspicion and i don't think any known high culture allows to act as a thieve or ignore a clear ban. i just wanted to bring this insane case to public because it is the second time for me this site tolerated stolen uploads of my mods after deleting the first.
      i can wait a few month and then close my account - nobody would care because all my mods will be downloadable and endorsable on another site. maybe this is the best olution ? i will think about it.
    2. ajhardy
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      Again, I am not endorsing, just explaining. In this culture it is not theft. Once an idea is expressed, it is not private property. And there is no such ban there. It is a very different place than here.
    3. xrayy
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      you mean they do not have to care for international law and copyright ? even when they are downloading on a foreign site which explicitly does not permit uploads on other sites ?
    4. ajhardy
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      That is correct
    5. xrayy
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      as far as i know also china legally protects ownership and copyright and that they accept international standards - at least officially. it's new for me that they don't.
    6. Metalsaber
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      Sadly AJ is correct.
    7. ff7legend
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      China is known as the copyright infringement/intellectual property theft capital of the world folks. It's state-sponsored & a major part of their culture. China habitually undercuts prices on various goods/services via flooding the market with counterfeit merchandise on Alibaba (Chinese equivalent to Amazon) that looks almost identical to expensive brands like Gucci/Versace/Louis Vutton/etc. Not surprised in the least to hear of mod theft being perpetuated on Chinese modding sites like 3DM. Why does one think Chinese military hardware looks so much like its U.S counterparts? This is due to the fact that the Chinese government STOLE military secrets/blueprints from the U.S via hacking/other illicit/illegal means.
    8. ArisGM
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      There is no black and white colors only in the world ... you know it.
  11. zipzip
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    I, as an end user, can understand you. unfortunately the thieves are always present. Although Skyrim is a very old game, I still enjoy playing Skyrim with you and other mod creators constantly adding something new to this game. I respect all the mod creators, and I hope that such depressed situations do not destroy your creativity.
    1. xrayy
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      i apprechiate your attitude. thanks for some comforting words :) i will keep on beeing creative but i will think twice if i share my future mods and projects publicly under these circumstances. most probably some others are already one step ahead...
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