Please read this before asking any questions. If you feel you have a bug to report, please post it in the comments after verifying that it is indeed a bug and not something mentioned here in the FAQ. Please do not PM me about any issues. I will not respond. That being said, here you will find answers to some common questions and concerns:
• Version 1.1.2 is the latest version and the most stable.
• "Can you put this on PS4?" No. You can thank the suits over at Sony for that one.
• "So and so isn't appearing! What can I do?" First of all, don't panic. It is recommended to play through this mod on a new save, or a save that has relatively few mods active. The Brotherhood of Old is a very script heavy mod, and the Skyrim scripting engine has a hard time keeping up with everything going on when it's under heavy usage from other mods. You can still play this mod on your heavily modded saves, and most of the time you should be fine, but do be prepared to run into issues where certain NPCs aren't appearing, someone's glitching through the ground, you getting stuck because a quest stage is not firing, and so on. You can try running FallrimTools script cleaner on your saves, I've heard that fixes a lot of problems people are having. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5031/
• "The courier isn't delivering the notes to me." This is a problem with your save game and needs to be sorted out independently. It is not an issue with the mod. There are a number of reasons why this could be happening, such as mod conflicts, load order issues, just to name a few.
• "Can I install this before I have completed the Dark Brotherhood questline?" Yes, you can.
• "Nothing happens when I hit Agnar Hollowleg with the Night's Shade Dagger. Is it possible to recruit him?" The dagger is designed to not work on him. This is a scripted event that is supposed to fail. Agnar will never join the Dark Brotherhood under any circumstances. Believe me, I've tried to convince him and he wasn't having any of it.
• "Can I use this if I've done the "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!" quest?" No, sorry. It's not possible at this time.
• "Can I use console commands to skip [insert part here]? Can you tell me what the stage ID is?" No. You're breaking things. Stop breaking things. If you feel you've run into an issue, make a bug report for the issue you're experiencing. Make sure to include as much detail as possible, including what stage you're currently on in the quest you're doing. I cannot help you if you can't provide me with the necessary information. Please look through the bug reports to see if someone has already reported your issue first, however.
• "This mod adds something in the way of something your mod adds. What can I do?" I unfortunately don't have time to make a patch for every little incompatibility there may be. If you run into something, please inform me about it and I will add it to the incompatibilities list. There may already be a patch for your issue. If not, you are free to make and post one yourself. Please let me know if you've done so. Currently there is only a patch for Skyrim Sewers, which you can find here on the Nexus.
• "Why haven't you answered by question? Did you get my PM. PLS RESPOND THX" I'm a one man team. I'm handling everything myself. I work a full time job in addition to numerous other projects and obligations. I physically do not have the time or manpower to get back to each and every one of you. There are a lot of you and only one me. Please follow the appropriate steps if you run into an issue before heading to the comments and my private messages. I don't mean to sound rude... that's just how things are. Thank you for the support. I appreciate you checking out my work.
• There is a Bugthesda problem with the weapon racks in the player home version of Amatius manor. You can put weapons on them but you can't take them back. I've tried all the known fixes and nothing is working. Don't use the weapon racks if you want your weapons back.
Having a great time with the mod, but I've run into a snag trying to leave Smuggler's Hollow after speaking to Azuk--just blackness, and all tab functions disabled. Any fix for this? Thanks.
just finished the mod and it's pretty good i got hooked from start to finish, though while playing i've run into 2 problems, the instructions for the quest in the falkreath sanctuary are too bland, the map marker only highlighting the door decieved me for hours, i thought some other mod broke the quest until i checked what's happening with xedit and discover i had to read the books in astrid's room. same with the tong dark elves i speak with them and nothing happens only to realize i had to kill both myself (after hours of try and error). Now a tiny nitpick i can't make Vala live in any of my dlc homes (only her old mansion) and she not adressing my character differenty after getting married, she keeps calling me listener/friend ;-;
Nothing happens after talking to Banus Alor. The conversation ends with something like "cant there be love between the 2 brotherhoods?" or something like that. He says "I-" as if hes going to say something then nothing. I talk to him again and the conversation just starts over again. The quest list says that I have spoken to him but cant figure out what to do next. I cant interact with Arianne when shes a follower either.
This mod just really doesn't want to work for me, I can't interact with some of the quest NPC's so I can't progress the questline at all. I'm currently stuck trying to talk to the priest in markarth, before that it was Dreynos and Undil (If I'm remembering their names correctly), but I'm not getting the prompt to interact with him, I have Vala with me, and nothing. It's a shame, I was really enjoying this mod.
Hello there, I do enjoy the mod but I've ran into an issue.
During the quest; "The True Brotherhood." I have reached the stage where one of the Khajit twins has fallen after a battle with the Crimson Scars, and Vala telling everyone to leave the other to grieve, to leave the area to do so. I have returned to the Dawnstar Sanctuary as instructed and have spoken to Vala, promoting her. After that, she runs off up the stairs and just stands by the door, and the quest does not progress.
First of all i love the mod i really do, but i run a slight issue, Im at the point where i have to go back to the old sanctuary and find a vampire, but for some odd reason my quest wont progress when i reach falkreath's sanctuary any clue what that issue can be?
Just freshly introduced into the Thieves Guild at level 18, I got a Numbers Job from Delvin that pointed me to the ledger of the TBO version of the Silver-Blood inn. Since that is only accessible during the orc quest, the ledger there could probably use some disabling. Of course, a reload fixed this for me. Just like you might want to know.
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Please read this before asking any questions. If you feel you have a bug to report, please post it in the comments after verifying that it is indeed a bug and not something mentioned here in the FAQ. Please do not PM me about any issues. I will not respond. That being said, here you will find answers to some common questions and concerns:
• Version 1.1.2 is the latest version and the most stable.
• "Can you put this on PS4?"
No. You can thank the suits over at Sony for that one.
• "So and so isn't appearing! What can I do?"
First of all, don't panic. It is recommended to play through this mod on a new save, or a save that has relatively few mods active. The Brotherhood of Old is a very script heavy mod, and the Skyrim scripting engine has a hard time keeping up with everything going on when it's under heavy usage from other mods. You can still play this mod on your heavily modded saves, and most of the time you should be fine, but do be prepared to run into issues where certain NPCs aren't appearing, someone's glitching through the ground, you getting stuck because a quest stage is not firing, and so on. You can try running FallrimTools script cleaner on your saves, I've heard that fixes a lot of problems people are having.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5031/
• "The courier isn't delivering the notes to me."
This is a problem with your save game and needs to be sorted out independently. It is not an issue with the mod. There are a number of reasons why this could be happening, such as mod conflicts, load order issues, just to name a few.
• "Can I install this before I have completed the Dark Brotherhood questline?"
Yes, you can.
• "Nothing happens when I hit Agnar Hollowleg with the Night's Shade Dagger. Is it possible to recruit him?"
The dagger is designed to not work on him. This is a scripted event that is supposed to fail. Agnar will never join the Dark Brotherhood under any circumstances. Believe me, I've tried to convince him and he wasn't having any of it.
• "Can I use this if I've done the "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!" quest?"
No, sorry. It's not possible at this time.
• "Can I use console commands to skip [insert part here]? Can you tell me what the stage ID is?"
No. You're breaking things. Stop breaking things. If you feel you've run into an issue, make a bug report for the issue you're experiencing. Make sure to include as much detail as possible, including what stage you're currently on in the quest you're doing. I cannot help you if you can't provide me with the necessary information. Please look through the bug reports to see if someone has already reported your issue first, however.
• "This mod adds something in the way of something your mod adds. What can I do?"
I unfortunately don't have time to make a patch for every little incompatibility there may be. If you run into something, please inform me about it and I will add it to the incompatibilities list. There may already be a patch for your issue. If not, you are free to make and post one yourself. Please let me know if you've done so. Currently there is only a patch for Skyrim Sewers, which you can find here on the Nexus.
• "Why haven't you answered by question? Did you get my PM. PLS RESPOND THX"
I'm a one man team. I'm handling everything myself. I work a full time job in addition to numerous other projects and obligations. I physically do not have the time or manpower to get back to each and every one of you. There are a lot of you and only one me. Please follow the appropriate steps if you run into an issue before heading to the comments and my private messages. I don't mean to sound rude... that's just how things are. Thank you for the support. I appreciate you checking out my work.
• There is a Bugthesda problem with the weapon racks in the player home version of Amatius manor. You can put weapons on them but you can't take them back. I've tried all the known fixes and nothing is working. Don't use the weapon racks if you want your weapons back.
This version is no longer supported.
Going forward, all major updates will be released exclusively for Special Edition. You can find the SE version here.
During the quest;
"The True Brotherhood."
I have reached the stage where one of the Khajit twins has fallen after a battle with the Crimson Scars, and Vala telling everyone to leave the other to grieve, to leave the area to do so. I have returned to the Dawnstar Sanctuary as instructed and have spoken to Vala, promoting her. After that, she runs off up the stairs and just stands by the door, and the quest does not progress.
Is there any fix for this?
First of all i love the mod i really do, but i run a slight issue, Im at the point where i have to go back to the old sanctuary and find a vampire, but for some odd reason my quest wont progress when i reach falkreath's sanctuary any clue what that issue can be?
Cheers! Great Mod.