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I love this mod, it works great with other mods that add NPCs to the game and the Inns look a lot more lively. The only issue I'm facing is a "conflict" with The Useless Shop and Interior Overhaul mod.
That mod changes the inside of the Bannered Mare (among other shops in Whiterun) in a way that, paired with More Tavern Idles, it makes it very hard to move around. The table and two chairs next to the fire, the bench on the left, two bar stools on the right and the cooking spit on the back are all in areas that would normally be passageways. You can see what I mean here.
Does anyone know how I can fix this? Is there a way to delete those items through TES5Edit? I'm using the load order suggested by LOOT and The Useless Shop and Interior Overhaul loads way before More Tavern Idles (they are in places 24 and 107 respectively). Sorry if the solution is obvious, I'm VERY new to modding Skyrim, this is my first modded playthrough and it's been a bit of a learning curve. Thank you to anyone that takes the time to read this.
Edit: I figured out I can delete objects in game using console commands and that seemed to do the trick
WARNING: This mod breaks the College of Winterhold questline by making Faralda disappear (probably due to an unintentional edit?). She is not on the bridge to the college, so the player cannot do the entry test to get into the college. I have tested this on a new game in vanilla skyrim with only this mod installed. The only way to fix it is with console commands to force the quest, or simply by not using this mod.
Looking in xedit, I noticed that a lot of NPC packages are altered. For Faralda's bridge force greet package, this schedule was changed from "any" to "weekdays". Also, conditions were placed for hours between 6 - 11 am and 1 - 6 pm. Not really sure why. Try these times and days and let me know if you see Faralda on bridge.
I usually move her to me at that spot so that I can talk to her when I need to. If what you say is true, I thank you. Because now I know what edits to make to fix her for my next playthrough.
Shawn, I believe you could remove all package edits from this mod. They will revert to original values. I personally don't see why they were changed. If anyone knows why, let me know.
I like that Jenassa goes outside to the market place. Otherwise, she would just be sitting in the Drunken Huntsmen all day I think. At least in my config.
Any chance this works with the enhanced version of Perseids Inns & taverns-realistic room rental? I'm guessing there are issues with the Inn floorplan changes.
Wonderful! With a bunch of mods adding NPCs, I wondered why there was always a crowd in the doorway of the rentable room in Candlehearth Hall. :D Now it's much more lively.
There's an issue in the Sleeping Giant Inn, Orgnar takes up position on the wrong side of the bar with his back facing the main hall, he rarely ever goes back to his original standing point behind the bar.
Well i had to leave this mod because of this kind of issues, espacially when using some taverns mods, shame because it is great mod. Also shame i have no idea how to make a patch and i am too lazy to learn it.
HelloMates wrote: There's an issue in the Sleeping Giant Inn, Orgnar takes up position on the wrong side of the bar with his back facing the main hall, he rarely ever goes back to his original standing point behind the bar.
xiu12 wrote: Well i had to leave this mod because of this kind of issues, espacially when using some taverns mods, shame because it is great mod. Also shame i have no idea how to make a patch and i am too lazy to learn it.
mrjentipede wrote: hmm, i'll have to think about how to improve that
thanks for mentioning it
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><b>HelloMates wrote: </b> <i>There's an issue in the Sleeping Giant Inn, Orgnar takes up position on the wrong side of the bar with his back facing the main hall, he rarely ever goes back to his original standing point behind the bar.</i></blockquote> <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><b>xiu12 wrote: </b> <i>Well i had to leave this mod because of this kind of issues, espacially when using some taverns mods, shame because it is great mod. Also shame i have no idea how to make a patch and i am too lazy to learn it.</i></blockquote> <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><b>mrjentipede wrote: </b> <i>hmm, i'll have to think about how to improve that
thanks for mentioning it</i></blockquote>
I've run into some placement issues as well in the Bannered Mare:
The only mod installed affecting the Bannered Mare (that I am aware of) is Taverns https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16122 With both More Tavern Idles and Taverns enabled three of the bar stools are displaced and returning the mugs and bottles, etc. to their default positions with Jaxxon Positioner causes them to drop back to the floor.
With Taverns.esp disabled and More Tavern Idles enabled, the bar stool placement is good but Hulda is displaced.
So there is definitely a mod conflict with Taverns but an issue beyond that as well.
Love this mod, hope you are still into fixing it.
Thanks
*edit: I've tried switching the load order around but no apparent changes.
I've been gone a while but might be able to fix issues but as you can tell no one has reported bugs. I might go through the comments to look for issues but it is more helpful if people put bug reports where they belong.
What happened to the SE conversion ? Apparently the mod has been deleted. I still have the file, but I'm wondering if there's something wrong with it ?
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That mod changes the inside of the Bannered Mare (among other shops in Whiterun) in a way that, paired with More Tavern Idles, it makes it very hard to move around. The table and two chairs next to the fire, the bench on the left, two bar stools on the right and the cooking spit on the back are all in areas that would normally be passageways. You can see what I mean here.
Does anyone know how I can fix this? Is there a way to delete those items through TES5Edit? I'm using the load order suggested by LOOT and The Useless Shop and Interior Overhaul loads way before More Tavern Idles (they are in places 24 and 107 respectively). Sorry if the solution is obvious, I'm VERY new to modding Skyrim, this is my first modded playthrough and it's been a bit of a learning curve. Thank you to anyone that takes the time to read this.
Edit: I figured out I can delete objects in game using console commands and that seemed to do the trick
This mod breaks the College of Winterhold questline by making Faralda disappear (probably due to an unintentional edit?). She is not on the bridge to the college, so the player cannot do the entry test to get into the college. I have tested this on a new game in vanilla skyrim with only this mod installed.
The only way to fix it is with console commands to force the quest, or simply by not using this mod.
Has anyone else noticed this bug?
thanks for mentioning it
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><b>HelloMates wrote: </b> <i>There's an issue in the Sleeping Giant Inn, Orgnar takes up position on the wrong side of the bar with his back facing the main hall, he rarely ever goes back to his original standing point behind the bar.</i></blockquote>
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><b>xiu12 wrote: </b> <i>Well i had to leave this mod because of this kind of issues, espacially when using some taverns mods, shame because it is great mod. Also shame i have no idea how to make a patch and i am too lazy to learn it.</i></blockquote>
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><b>mrjentipede wrote: </b> <i>hmm, i'll have to think about how to improve that
thanks for mentioning it</i></blockquote>
I've run into some placement issues as well in the Bannered Mare:
https://imgur.com/a/qIMrv
The only mod installed affecting the Bannered Mare (that I am aware of) is Taverns https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/16122
With both More Tavern Idles and Taverns enabled three of the bar stools are displaced and returning the mugs and bottles, etc. to their default positions with Jaxxon Positioner causes them to drop back to the floor.
With Taverns.esp disabled and More Tavern Idles enabled, the bar stool placement is good but Hulda is displaced.
So there is definitely a mod conflict with Taverns but an issue beyond that as well.
Love this mod, hope you are still into fixing it.
Thanks
*edit: I've tried switching the load order around but no apparent changes.
Updates however will only affect the Special Edition version unless it is simple to convert back.
I have seen some issues in the comments and that make me think twice before downloading it.
Everything ok with the mod