using and lovin this for years. thank you! probably outside the scope of this mod but sorta related..., a ship that reeeeeally needs an overhaul is the one you take to Japhet's Folly in the Ride of the East quest. that think it a generic empty vacant mess. needs a t least cannons as you use cannons in the quest. anyone know of a mod that adds, anything, to that ship?
Thank you so much for the kind words, i don't know of any mod that does that tho, if i was still modding i would be glad to take a look and try to add more details.
Riftenbetterdocks.esp doesnt seem to be in the file. Unless it has just been renamed. Mod organizer is saying that "UltimateSkyrim.esp" requires master "RiftenBetterDocks.esp"
I downloaded the All in One - DLC Compatible
Yet the .esp file that was in the download is loaded before it?
Turns out you need the 3rd download for it to work - Better Docks Module
Could you clarify the following please? The readme files and mod file descriptions in the download section were not clear on what each of the mod download options were. I noticed several versions/file sizes of esps with the same filename. It's hard to tell if these esps are the needed esp or a required compatibility patch (since some of them don't have the word "compatibility" or "patch" in the filename despite being the same file size).
This is for the Fomod version. I need to use the modular version of this mod because I have highly modded areas at Solitude, Solstheim and Windhelm. Please clarify the following:
1. The mods in 00 Complete folders i.e. BetterDocks-NoDLC-MergedPlugins and BetterDocks-DLC-MergedPlugins are the all in one version of this mod which merges all the dock plug ins. In which case, I don't need to install this as I need the modular option)
2. The WindhelmBetterDocks.esp in the 01 Windhelm folder is for a vanilla version of Windhelm.
3. The WindhelmBetterDocks-Faction-P.F.-Compatible Version.esp is ONLY if you have the PF fighter mod AND this esp is NOT a compatibility patch for the esp in #2 (because they're the same file size?)
4. I have PF Fighter and so will need to install #3 at min. I also have all 3 DLC, and so Solstheim/DB DLC is accessible via that NPC boat at the docks. Which also happens to be in same area as the Better Docks mod. Since I have the DB DLC AND the PF fighter mod, then do I need to install the Better Docks DLC's - Compatible Version.esp as well? i.e. So do I need to install only 2 files:
5. I have RRE, so this means I need to install only SolstheimBetterDocks-RRE-Compatible Version.esp? OR, is this a compatibility patch so that I'd need to install BOTH this AND the SolstheimBetterDocks.esp (which is a smaller size esp)
6. I have Dawnstar Expanded mod. So do I install ONLY the DawnstarBetterDocks.esp from the folder that says 01 Dawnstar - Expanded Patch? Because the other folder named 01 Dawnstar is identical in name and file size.
7. Solitude is my heaviest modded dock area. Originally had the SOG but had to remove it as it made the area too unstable memory wise. So now I only have Solitude Docks District and Solitude Better Docks mods. I noticed the SolitudeBetterDocks.esp is 55kb v. the Solitude-SDD "patch" which is 1kb. Since I have SDD, do I only need to install the 1kb "patch" esp file? Because it's simply going to overwrite the 55kb one
And on that point for the SDD mod, the SDD mod author provided a compatibility patch i.e. SolitudeBetterDocks-SDD-CompatiblePatch.esp. Which is not only the same size as your SolitudeBetterDocks.esp "patch", but-for some bizarre reason-only has the Skyrim.esm listed as it's master? Why don't both of these "compatibility patches" list Solitude Docks District.esm as a master?
Before starting this keep in mind that i no longer know everything about the optional files from the top of my head.
1- don't use the all in one
2- I don't understand this what 01 Windhelm folder?
3- This windhelm esp serves as compatibility patch for the all in one version because it overwrites that version by removing the statue part that blocked the entrance to the pitt but can be used as a replacer of the windhelm docks esp in the modular version.
Twas not needed, i only created this patch as a courtesy because i do not recommend using SDD as it is very unstable according to most users of that mod you would have to ask the other mod author about he's patch because my 1k patch only fixes a minor issue that i found when both mods are installed, i dont know what he's patch fixes, i didn't even know he had a compatiblity patch for better docks on he's mod page.
Well i hope that helps, next time avoid terms like SOG (still don't know what mod is that), RRE or SDD as it may take me some time to figure out what mods you're trying to say.
If you have any more doubts feel free to post them.
after some research and troubleshooting, I discovered that "Wet and Cold" was the culprit. It was merely a coincidence that the crashes were occurring on the docks.
I can, once again, admire your docks with no CTDs.
once again, thanks for your hard work and wonderful contribution!
edit- I meant to tell you, I did discover one bug. The Argonian "Dock Workers" in Windhelm seem to be using the voice for Nords. It's a little off-putting, nothing I cant RP through ("OOOooooohhh... I guess they've just done a really good job at culturally assimilating) but still, I figured id bring it up to your attention
You must have another conflict in your load order because Windhelm docks are the only docks that i haven't added npcs, the argonians were allready there so i didn't wanted to make the docks more crowded so it could be performance friendly.
I will check it out tho i want to know if in my game they're doing a good job at culturally assimilating.
I love this mod! I play on the Xbox1 and it adds so much life and detail to an otherwise overlooked portion of the game.
that being said, I've never had any issues with this mod. It has always worked perfectly. However, after the recent Update for the survival-mode I started experiencing some issues. I switched out my frostfall/campfire, INeeds, etc. for the Survival-Mode (and to make my LO more lightweight)
My play-through was going great, then I tried to enter the Windhelm docks. I've been crashing in several instances, but I cannot duplicate any of the crashes. I only know that the common denominator is the Windhelm docks. I've crashed immediately upon entering it, I've crashed after 3 minutes of being on the docks, I've crashed when speaking to a guard on the docks, I've crashed when speaking to a dock worker, and I've crashed when speaking to some of the named argonians on the docks. all-in-all, I cannot stay longer than 2 or 3 minutes on the dock without crashing.
my question to you is: has anyone else informed you of any crashing from this mod and the survival mode? and, do you believe there is anything in your mod that would conflict with survival mode? I'm not convinced its your mod by any means, it could be something else entirely. I only know that I am crashing on the Windhelm docks.
Again, I've been using your mod Since it first hit Xbox1 and I would never remove it, I just enjoy the life it brings to the (sometimes) dull cities/docks. I love it when I enjoy a drink in an inn to escape the cold, and I notice an unfamiliar dock-worker winding down his day with some mead.
Thank you Luke i really appreciate everything you said.
I'm currently playing on Ps4 with survival mod and better docks to and haven't crashed yet, Skyrim can be a very unstable game specially with mods i don't know how the survival mode would interefer with a simple mod like better docks but if i find something i'll let you know.
one of my fave mods! thanks so much for it. and thanks for still actively responding to comments! i was wondering; was wanting to take this tool... http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64875/?
and change one of the Dock Workers to a female, for diversity, and since there's a ton of dock workers around lol. could i pick a dock worker, set it essential and uncheck the respawn flag, then use that tool to give it a unique follower appearance that would last the game? or do they respawn into different templates periodically, even if they don't die? thanks!
Yes you can do that, they are set to respawn only if they die, not entirely sure if the appearance also changes randomly from time to time but i dont think so and since the npc visual tool changes the appearance it wont be a problem, its a cool idea to add female npcs as workers i should've done it but since the east empire company only has male workers i ended up only adding male workers to only variety i added was in races.
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All information can be found at the description page and "Readme".
If you have any doubts please leave a comment and i'll answer it when im around.
Please show some appreciation if you enjoy the works mod authors share with you.
Better "Series" - All in One (recommended)
Link: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58563/?
Better Docks for the Special Edition
Link: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2384/?
Note: Also available for Xbox1 and Ps4.
probably outside the scope of this mod but sorta related..., a ship that reeeeeally needs an overhaul is the one you take to Japhet's Folly in the Ride of the East quest. that think it a generic empty vacant mess. needs a t least cannons as you use cannons in the quest.
anyone know of a mod that adds, anything, to that ship?
Mod organizer is saying that "UltimateSkyrim.esp" requires master "RiftenBetterDocks.esp"
I downloaded the All in One - DLC Compatible
Yet the .esp file that was in the download is loaded before it?
Turns out you need the 3rd download for it to work - Better Docks Module
My guess is that "ultimateskyrim.esp" was done along with the module version of better docks and not the all in one and thats why it requires it.
This is for the Fomod version. I need to use the modular version of this mod because I have highly modded areas at Solitude, Solstheim and Windhelm. Please clarify the following:
1. The mods in 00 Complete folders i.e. BetterDocks-NoDLC-MergedPlugins and BetterDocks-DLC-MergedPlugins are the all in one version of this mod which merges all the dock plug ins. In which case, I don't need to install this as I need the modular option)
2. The WindhelmBetterDocks.esp in the 01 Windhelm folder is for a vanilla version of Windhelm.
3. The WindhelmBetterDocks-Faction-P.F.-Compatible Version.esp is ONLY if you have the PF fighter mod AND this esp is NOT a compatibility patch for the esp in #2 (because they're the same file size?)
4. I have PF Fighter and so will need to install #3 at min. I also have all 3 DLC, and so Solstheim/DB DLC is accessible via that NPC boat at the docks. Which also happens to be in same area as the Better Docks mod. Since I have the DB DLC AND the PF fighter mod, then do I need to install the Better Docks DLC's - Compatible Version.esp as well? i.e. So do I need to install only 2 files:
WindhelmBetterDocks-Faction-P.F.-Compatible Version.esp
Better Docks DLC's - Compatible Version.esp
or these 3 files for the Windhelm docks?
WindhelmBetterDocks.esp
WindhelmBetterDocks-Faction-P.F.-Compatible Version.esp
Better Docks DLC's - Compatible Version.esp
5. I have RRE, so this means I need to install only SolstheimBetterDocks-RRE-Compatible Version.esp? OR, is this a compatibility patch so that I'd need to install BOTH this AND the SolstheimBetterDocks.esp (which is a smaller size esp)
6. I have Dawnstar Expanded mod. So do I install ONLY the DawnstarBetterDocks.esp from the folder that says 01 Dawnstar - Expanded Patch? Because the other folder named 01 Dawnstar is identical in name and file size.
7. Solitude is my heaviest modded dock area. Originally had the SOG but had to remove it as it made the area too unstable memory wise. So now I only have Solitude Docks District and Solitude Better Docks mods. I noticed the SolitudeBetterDocks.esp is 55kb v. the Solitude-SDD "patch" which is 1kb. Since I have SDD, do I only need to install the 1kb "patch" esp file? Because it's simply going to overwrite the 55kb one
And on that point for the SDD mod, the SDD mod author provided a compatibility patch i.e. SolitudeBetterDocks-SDD-CompatiblePatch.esp. Which is not only the same size as your SolitudeBetterDocks.esp "patch", but-for some bizarre reason-only has the Skyrim.esm listed as it's master? Why don't both of these "compatibility patches" list Solitude Docks District.esm as a master?
Before starting this keep in mind that i no longer know everything about the optional files from the top of my head.
1- don't use the all in one
2- I don't understand this what 01 Windhelm folder?
3- This windhelm esp serves as compatibility patch for the all in one version because it overwrites that version by removing the statue part that blocked the entrance to the pitt but can be used as a replacer of the windhelm docks esp in the modular version.
4- 1º WindhelmBetterDocks.esp -> 2º Better Docks DLC's - Compatible Version.esp -> 3º WindhelmBetterDocks-Faction-P.F.-Compatible Version.esp.
5- Use only SolstheimBetterDocks-RRE-Compatible Version.esp.
6-Yes use only the Dawnstar expanded patch, it says on the description: "(you dont need the original DawnstarBetterDocks.esp).".
7- 1º SDD -> 2º Better Docks Solitude esp 3º -> SDD Patch
Twas not needed, i only created this patch as a courtesy because i do not recommend using SDD as it is very unstable according to most users of that mod you would have to ask the other mod author about he's patch because my 1k patch only fixes a minor issue that i found when both mods are installed, i dont know what he's patch fixes, i didn't even know he had a compatiblity patch for better docks on he's mod page.
Well i hope that helps, next time avoid terms like SOG (still don't know what mod is that), RRE or SDD as it may take me some time to figure out what mods you're trying to say.
If you have any more doubts feel free to post them.
Merry Xmas.
after some research and troubleshooting, I discovered that "Wet and Cold" was the culprit. It was merely a coincidence that the crashes were occurring on the docks.
I can, once again, admire your docks with no CTDs.
once again, thanks for your hard work and wonderful contribution!
edit-
I meant to tell you, I did discover one bug. The Argonian "Dock Workers" in Windhelm seem to be using the voice for Nords. It's a little off-putting, nothing I cant RP through ("OOOooooohhh... I guess they've just done a really good job at culturally assimilating) but still, I figured id bring it up to your attention
You must have another conflict in your load order because Windhelm docks are the only docks that i haven't added npcs, the argonians were allready there so i didn't wanted to make the docks more crowded so it could be performance friendly.
I will check it out tho i want to know if in my game they're doing a good job at culturally assimilating.
The way you said it was really funny!
Cheers
that being said, I've never had any issues with this mod. It has always worked perfectly. However, after the recent Update for the survival-mode I started experiencing some issues. I switched out my frostfall/campfire, INeeds, etc. for the Survival-Mode (and to make my LO more lightweight)
My play-through was going great, then I tried to enter the Windhelm docks. I've been crashing in several instances, but I cannot duplicate any of the crashes. I only know that the common denominator is the Windhelm docks. I've crashed immediately upon entering it, I've crashed after 3 minutes of being on the docks, I've crashed when speaking to a guard on the docks, I've crashed when speaking to a dock worker, and I've crashed when speaking to some of the named argonians on the docks. all-in-all, I cannot stay longer than 2 or 3 minutes on the dock without crashing.
my question to you is: has anyone else informed you of any crashing from this mod and the survival mode? and, do you believe there is anything in your mod that would conflict with survival mode? I'm not convinced its your mod by any means, it could be something else entirely. I only know that I am crashing on the Windhelm docks.
Again, I've been using your mod Since it first hit Xbox1 and I would never remove it, I just enjoy the life it brings to the (sometimes) dull cities/docks. I love it when I enjoy a drink in an inn to escape the cold, and I notice an unfamiliar dock-worker winding down his day with some mead.
Thank again for your fantastic mod.
Cheers!
I'm currently playing on Ps4 with survival mod and better docks to and haven't crashed yet, Skyrim can be a very unstable game specially with mods i don't know how the survival mode would interefer with a simple mod like better docks but if i find something i'll let you know.
Cheers!
i was wondering; was wanting to take this tool...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64875/?
and change one of the Dock Workers to a female, for diversity, and since there's a ton of dock workers around lol. could i pick a dock worker, set it essential and uncheck the respawn flag, then use that tool to give it a unique follower appearance that would last the game? or do they respawn into different templates periodically, even if they don't die? thanks!
Yes you can do that, they are set to respawn only if they die, not entirely sure if the appearance also changes randomly from time to time but i dont think so and since the npc visual tool changes the appearance it wont be a problem, its a cool idea to add female npcs as workers i should've done it but since the east empire company only has male workers i ended up only adding male workers to only variety i added was in races.
Re-download and install again, every file is there.
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