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Colorful Sunday with Mani and ENB 315 Update

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  1. Klaxoid
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    I was noticing those strange shadows for a while, but only in certain lighting , it has been driving me nuts. Thanks for the info!

    These shots are great as well, I especially like how the SFO trees look in that last shot. The DoF is perfect.
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thanks Klaxoid - I am never sure how many follow ENB development so try to post a few things now and then.
    2. Klaxoid
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      That's good of you, I must admit most of it is beyond me currently. I make a few tweaks here and there, but it's still largely a mystery. Learning more every day though
  2. wadelycan
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    Looks great! Thanks for the update. In not ENB news, I'm also glad to see the MCM menu make its way to FO4 and SKSE64 is in alpha....good times.
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thanks. I had heard about the alpha for SE although my reluctance to use SE isn't the mods anymore (as there are enough converted now) but that the game looks awful to me. I think its because I am use to a certain "look" to Skyrim after 5 years. So SE just looks too artificial and plastic (not sure of the right words) to me. If I had never played Skyrim I am sure I would love it. Just hard to get into the visuals and I miss all the ENB toys. I suppose if I keep playing Skyrim I might move over someday.
  3. deleted28570945
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    A nice looking set...love the white wolf
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Many thanks SchmooZ!
  4. EMS60
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    Liadys creates great faces. Not these one-looks-like-the-other-waifu-trash. Real faces, everyone of them unique.
    Erm, sorry should talk bout your images. Beautiful paintings... think I wrote that already... somewhere?

    Btw: I wanted to switch ENB. More fantasy this time. Your works were my 1st choice. Unlike in your images and though my monitor is calibrated my skin tones with every somberlike ENB are unnaturally red. Using Skysight for my guys and PoV for my women. I'm really out of clues. So I switched back to my "realistic" preset.
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thank you very much Eva

      Male skin shouldn't be red if using Skysight - unless you mixed and maxed other files with it, especially _s and _sk. My males use a mix of Skysight and SOS.

      These skin tones look perfect to me:

      https://www.flickr.com/photos/wolfgrimdark/36150825663/in/dateposted/

      https://www.flickr.com/photos/wolfgrimdark/36150827463/in/dateposted/

      Those were taken with GS Vaermina 236 Binary. Changes to bloom and other things on the newer binaries have a subtle effect on things with Vaermina and Jyggalag so prefer the old binaries for those two.

      Now if those skin tones above are two red then that is a taste preference (which is fine of course - I find people are very particular about their skin tones ... I know I am as I tweak my presets around that as my primary aesthetic).

      If your skin doesn't like those shots for your men, and you are using baseline Skyskins, then my next question would be - are you tweaking or changing the preset settings? Do you use any weather or lighting overhaul mods? Those could also be adjusting colors.

      You might also try the two classic version of those two presets with 236 (what I use) to see if it helps.

      That might at least help determine if the issue is somewhere else since we both use similar male textures (and while mine are merged with SOS I have played with just Skyskins and the tones are similar). For heads ... I also use a normal map by Genox but otherwise is the average age ones by Skyskins.

      As for the females - I use XCE and some textures made by Erika over on Flickr. Mani, in these shots, is a stand alone by Liadys and I used the UNP body she offered in the downloads. Her skin looks good to me.

      I have heard comments that certain female skins (UNP I think is okay) don't look as good and so I suspect that could explain the female issue (if not the male issue). You could probably fix that, however, using the SSS settings to get something you like. Those settings, at certain values, can increase the red "glow" of SSS so I suspect tweaking those would help your situation. I tend to use rather strong values simply because I like how it looks on my male characters.

      You could also try Somber Dreams by Maeldun as she has more conservative, and better balanced, settings in her preset. You might find the fantasy feel you are looking for with better skin.

      Just some thoughts.

      Presets do make a difference though. Here is Wolf with Insomnia CGI:

      https://www.flickr.com/photos/wolfgrimdark/35867241334/in/dateposted/

      But it becomes a lot more complex because light, weather, time of day, etc. all come into play when it comes to colors and how the skin might look.
    2. EMS60
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      TY for your really explaining answer my friend.
      I had somewhere the so-called "Unofficial Skysight SoS textures" and looked into them. The differences are very obvious. Not only the diffuse but especially the _s and _sk-maps. But I don't and never will use SoS.
      I played with Somber 3 a long time ago. Made up for some really nice screenshots.
      https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8734/30204747426_d7ea84ac6e_b.jpg
      https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5829/30946205721_351af59831_b.jpg

      But now I wanted something from you.... 'sigh'. Perhaps I'll tinker around some more to get my males less sunburned.
    3. wolfgrimdark
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      Ah interesting. Did not know those files existed. I have a very custom made set of textures a friend made for me that merged the files and he did a really excellent job with it.

      Somber Dreams is great and I have used it myself. But I have grown rather fond of the quriks and more extreme settings in the GS presets which is why I probably still use them. Although I do enjoy other presets. Besides Somber Dreams I also use the two made by Tobi (Insomnia ENB and Insomnia CGI) as well as NiceENB (the original), and Rudy ENB for vanilla.
  5. Kuschel-Drow
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    Patch? What? Who? Why? Where? What? O.o
    Now I'm confused.
    I'm still on 308, haven't noticed any bug. o.o° Some things are really bright but we already found out that it's CoT trying to mess with the ENB preset.
    Or did you mean it got buggy on 315 without that mysterious patch? ^^

    I'm still unsure if it's worth updating or not. Apart from having to change my DoF to fit the new version, I don't even notice a performance hit using your ENBs, not the slightest.
    And among those I tried yours seem to be the only one that are capable of hiding the ugly dark horizon line if you're standing on a mountain or stuff.

    EDIT: Oh and where have the colors gone? It sems that Malacath creates much more vibrant colors for me than for you? Why? O.o
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Ah I am talking about binary 315. The bug was introducted when Boris was moving shader code around and split out DOF from enbprepass into its own file. Was a black oil like graphic glitch on shadows that would occur under certain circumstances. It is now fixed.

      The horizon can be hidden nicely with the MIST effect. Because users often complain about it being too strong I keep it very mild for the most part on my presets - but its easy to adjust in game which I do if needed on my own versions.

      If you are happy with the current binary then no need to update really. Newer is not always better. I often play with binary 236 which is one of my favorites - use it for Vaermina and Jyggalag. For Shards of Oblivion I use binary 221 and for Insomnia ENB, Insomnia CGI, and NiceENB I use binary 262.

      Azura and Malacath I like on 315 and sometimes Jyggalag I enjoy on 315 - which is a tad more stable then 236.

      As for the color question, no idea. I don't think any of my presets are two strong with colors, except maybe Hircine which tends to be have higher contrast and saturation then the others. Could be some other mod you are using perhaps.
    2. Kuschel-Drow
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      I'm very happy with as less mist as possible. It's nice enough if it hides the horizon line and makes far away mountains appear blue-is, because I actually use brown mountain textures, while my LODs still show the grey ones - because I do not dare to use any LOD generator.
      I had very bad experiences with that on Olblivion, so I'll never do that again and stick with the originals unless a mod adds new LODs. So the slight mist actually 'coveres' that, because mountains in real life appear blue-ish as well, even if they're red, as long as they're far enough away.

      I like some ground mist effects, but I don't need mist everywhere. Some of my mods changed the FX for mist anyway, much to my likings. Can't remember which one it was, it's possibly long gone while the FX files remained, I don't care.

      As for the colors: Nope, no mod active. I do have the imaginator tool, but it's not active on my savegame as long as I'm using Malacath, because it just makes beautiful colors. But yours seem to be paler for whatever reason. Guess I'll just stick with binary 308.
      And yes, Hircine is even MORE colorful, but it does have an orange tint that is just as huge.
      Malacath brightens up some colors (especially dark grass and such) but it feels a lot more balanced to me and more true to the colors, or bettersaid, I do not notice any strong tint, apart from making colors appear warmer, which I actually appreciate, since vanilla looks terribly COLD.

      I don't know if you saw these, but they actually made me stick with Malacath for good.:
      http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/images/669978/?
    3. wolfgrimdark
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      Those look nice - I hadn't seen those. Malacath does seem a little brighter/colorful but it could also be monitor resolution and how that can affect pixels. I saw little Rupert on your characters back as well - looking cute as ever.
    4. Kuschel-Drow
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      My brightness setting is only at 1/3 Otherwise It'd be really bright. And I just love the colors, even if my character's skin looks quite bright under certain conditions. Somehow it just fits. <3
      And yes, Rupert is just too cute to resist...
      This are just the little oddities... Just like they sing the Dragonborn Song in my Wasteland now, and I do have (dwarven) cars and motorcycles in Skyrim... I mean... you learn from collecting and crafting with trash, eh? I bet the Winterhold Hoodie is just another merchandise item from the wasteland, just cleaned up or something...
  6. Heaventhere
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    Really great shots, and love the last one, the trees in the back ground just pop out ....... nice armor to btw ..... very manly
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thanks! And aye I like my manly armor
  7. ista3
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    Great captures Jonathan and I love the wintery scenes
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Many thanks Izzy!
  8. Darksaber87
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    Great shots, Jonathan. glad that weird shadow bug got fixed.
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thanks Quinten! I am glad it was something Boris could fix on his end versus a preset specific issue.
  9. BlackMaid
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    I like the main and the last for the colors and the first in zhe description shows really nice water.
    This horn, what Wolf blows is awesome
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thanks! Drifta (based on Meeko Reborn) comes with her own horn to summon her which is what Wolf was doing as she had gotten distracted some where. She is strong willed and does her own thing a lot of the time. She gets along very well with Mani who is also strong willed.
    2. BlackMaid
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      Kthe two white-haired ... yes, I know, they have always their own will
      Thanky for this info
  10. BlueOgreSan
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    Great images Wolf, thanks for an update. I should test it and upload some shots.
    1. wolfgrimdark
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      Thanks - aye this was more just a public service announcement really