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Download history functionality on file comments for mod authors

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We’ve updated the sites today with what will probably be the last new feature we add to the sites for a little while as we focus fully on expanding the Nexus sites to support all PC games which I mentioned in my recent blog piece.

Today’s update has added a new link titled “Download history” to file comments which is displayed next to the post date information for mod authors on their own file page comment areas. When the author of the file clicks this link they’ll be able to see your download history for that file (and only that file), which will display the file version you downloaded and when you downloaded it.



You might be asking why, and what’s the point? There’s a few good reasons why it would be handy for a mod author to see your download history for their file.

One of the assets of Nexus functionality over Steam Workshop is the fact users have complete version control over the files they download. If a mod author releases an update that has a major bug in it then users can roll-back to a previous version or skip updating to the latest version until the mod author fixes the bug. This is in direct contrast to Steam Workshop where mod updates are applied automatically, without warning or a user choice, when a mod author uploads a new version.

However, with complete version control for users also comes a typical issue: users reporting bugs on old versions (say v1.2) that were fixed in newer versions (say v1.4). Because the user is still using the old version the bug still exists for them. When reporting the bug the user (more often than not) might not report what version of the mod they’re using, so the mod author has to waste time getting to the bottom of whether the bug is still in their current version or whether the user is using an old version that has since been patched. This is something we’ve attempted to help fix with this feature.

When a mod author can see your download history for their file they can quickly skip that “What version are you using?” step of communication and quickly provide you with feedback based on your download history. It’s hopefully going to save mod authors some time when trying to help you with your problems.

Another good reason is in helping to prevent mod trolling. If someone is trolling a file page comment section about how the file doesn’t work or how it doesn’t do what it says the mod author can quickly check their download history for the file and see whether the user has actually even bothered to download the file at all. And my personal favourite, “I’ve been using this mod for over 3 weeks and it’s broken all my saves”, *checks the download history and finds they only downloaded the file 10 minutes ago*, yeah...

To alleviate a few privacy fears let me just tell you that this feature does NOT give mod authors access to your complete download history for every file you’ve ever downloaded. Only the author of the file in question can see your download history, and only for THAT file. If I’ve released mod A and you post in the comment section for mod A I would not be able to see that you’ve downloaded mods B, C, D and E as well. When I broached this subject in the private mod author forums a relatively valid argument was raised that people don’t want their download histories to be public knowledge. However, having said that, if you’ve downloaded a nude mod, for example, and you didn’t want it to be public knowledge that you’d downloaded the file, you wouldn’t be posting in the comments section of the nude mod. By posting in the comments section of a nude mod you’ve already expressed your interest in said mod, and a mod author being shown your download history for that file isn’t going to make that interest any more or less obvious for the public.

This update is now live on all the Nexus sites. I hope that the mod authors can put it to good use.

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  1. Dark0ne
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    You're replying to a post from 2013. 9 years ago, Steam Workshop was very different. Calm down, take a deep breath and use your head.
  2. TeloKiwenLete
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    "One of the assets of Nexus functionality over Steam Workshop is the fact users have complete version control over the files they download. If a mod author releases an update that has a major bug in it then users can roll-back to a previous version or skip updating to the latest version until the mod author fixes the bug. This is in direct contrast to Steam Workshop where mod updates are applied automatically, without warning or a user choice, when a mod author uploads a new version."

    This entire paragraph is nothing but lies. You CAN choose which version of a Steam Workshop file you download by manually downloading the file externally, and not subscribing to the mod directly.

    Also, Nexus requiring log in to download anything is an extremely cheap tactic. I should be able to anonymously download the mods I want regardless of where they're hosted.
  3. devil0929
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    Great feature and very useful! Thanks a lot!
  4. GendunDrup
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    Lovely!

    What if there was a way to know whether they used NMM to install it or not? I've had people complain about my mods not working on the parts where I specifically say not to use NMM for. (Since there's multiple texture options)
    1. Zaldiir
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      You can disable the "Download with Manager" button on individual files.
    2. Freso
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      @Zaldiir: I had a period where NMM refused to do the downloading for me, so I downloaded manually, but still used NMM to install mods. (I've used it a fair bit for Morrowind to repackage some mods to my own liking and then handle installation incl. file conflicting and uninstallation with NMM.)
  5. FalmerBane
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    Threw my Advil deep into my desk drawer! Thanks so much for doing this, I hate guessing when trying to help my mod users.
  6. Bess
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    I think this is a fine idea, too, and I'm all for it. It looks like being a great head-ache preventative.

    I hope, though, that mod authors will be kind enough to keep in mind that a recent download date (or none at all) in a user's history (say, mine, for instance) doesn't always necessarily mean that I haven't been running the mod as long as I've said. Someone above mentioned the very small mods one doesn't need to be logged in to download. Whenever I notice these in my own mod archives, I've already been logging in to download them again on purpose to get them into my history list. Or when I've downloaded a mod from elsewhere, like TESA or ORE, I try to remember to DL it from Nexus, too, again just to “register” it in my history here. But I may have been running it a long time before my DL date seems to indicate.

    And then there was the time several months ago when, a long time after DLing and installing the Unique Landscapes Compilation OMOD, I decided I must DL every one of them from their own pages just so I might endorse them individually as they deserve. Alas, to this day only one of them has ever shown up in my Download History, and I'm getting mentally set to do it all over again. They're not in my History, but I've been running them all of them for over a year.  And I got them from Nexus.

    If I want to ask an author a question, it's not a big deal for me to remember (most days, anyway) to say I'm running version so-and-so, or that I got it at such-and-such a site. But if I forget, and/or my Download History doesn't seem to quite add up, I hope I won't be dismissed as some sort of trolling fraudster twit who has no business to say anything at all, when there may be a simple explanation that can clear everything up after a patient question or two.
  7. Saobuzed
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    And why people who never ever uploaded a mod get informed about this? Do I have to disable every updates?
    1. acidzebra
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      I am sorry that not every news item on the nexus caters to your special interests. Thank you for gracing us all by taking some of your precious time and letting us know about this outrage.

      In other news, feature works great, thanks guys.
    2. Lanceor
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      It seems that the trolls come out of the woodwork every time there is a news item or Robin posts an update.
    3. Xion209
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      Upload a mod. Problem solved.
    4. Ithildin
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      I've never uploaded a mod, but I'd *much* rather be informed about changes made to my favorite site than left in the dark.
  8. pintocat
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    I've already found two people who only downloaded the plugin and not the main assets file, and another who was using a 6 month old version where the bug they're reporting was fixed 4 versions prior to current.
  9. ItsMeToo
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    Great idea and thanks.
  10. Varegi
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    Splendid I say.