I encounter an issue but not with this mod, I noticed the potions in my game are not OScuro's but replaced by (i guess) the vanilla ones. meaning health potions will no longer gradually regen, but instantly heal their amount.
I do not know which mod does this, so here is my Load order if someone can figure: It is not Waalx (i tested removing the mod) and I doubt its Maskar because It used to work fine with both of them installed. EDIT Turns out Maskar's ini setting regarding potions had changed, so I simply just re enabled it... I feel dumb but I leave this here if it happens to someone else.
OOO Updated is easy to install. The most time consuming thing about it is the extraction of the bsa file when installing, if that is the correct expression.
Thanks for the clarification, but actually I do believe that OOO Updated is quite stable and easy to install - the only reason I'm not using it is OBSE, for some reason it doesn't like the GOG Oblivion I installed, even with the appropriate loader the game starts to behave funny. Not sure why.
Oh right, slight misunderstanding from my side. I don't have any problems with OBSE on the GOG version. I put the obse_loader.exe from OBSE Loader 0021 GOG-37952-0021 in the oblivion (not the data) folder, along with Data, obse_1_2_416.dll and obse_editor_1_2.dll from OBSE 0021-37952-0021, and everything works perfectly for me. Normally, if you do that, it should work. I think OBSE is also important for lots of other mods, so for me it is a necessity, there is not really a way around it. What do you mean by "behave funny"?
I follow the exact instructions, OBSE is working fine. The two mods that rely on it ("Auto Update Leveled Items and Spells" and "Spell Deletion") are also functioning correctly.
However, a few minutes into the gameplay I inevitably come across completely random and weird behaviour (which is kind of amusing in itself):
- Spell effects out of nowhere (fire damage sound just after walking out of prison in tutorial) - Items added to inventory when they shouldn't be (received rat meat while walking around near Bruma) - Inability to make power attacks (animation just stops at holding back the weapon)
I posted in OBSE comment section, and one person told me that perhaps those two OBSE-dependent mods may be causing the problem. I played the game with OBSE, but without the mods - and sure enough, no glitches occurred. Then I re-enabled the mods, and had another glitch - I killed a Khajiit bandit near a fort, and heard Boethiah's booming voice - which is not supposed to happen outside of his "tournament" quest.
How on Earth things end up in such confused state is beyond my comprehension. This is likely a problem with one of those mods, even though they look legit to me, and their users never reported this kind of strangeness. I've heard that OBSE may be chaotic and tricky on some systems, perhaps I'm just the lucky one...
It's not that big of a problem for me, as I tend to keep my mod list very lean, and I can do just fine without OBSE (using TIE instead of OOO, for instance). But if I ever get the script extender up and running without issues, I'll be sure to give OOO Updated a go.
That does sound funny. But I guess it's also annoying and immersion breaking. I don't know why it behaves so weirdly for you, because it has never happened to me before, so I am not sure I can be of much help with that, but good luck getting it to work.
Well, thank you anyway for hearing me out and trying to help! I'm sure the culprit is not OBSE itself, but one of these mods I mentioned, and if so - I can live without them. So I might try OOO Updated or some other OBSE mods in the future, if all goes well.
Certain Dll loaders do actually have problems with GoG or exterior Non-Steam copies of the game indirectly, so be careful, or just get a steam-copy, literally buying oblivion form the Bathesda Site is more unstable with modding then Steam, so just go through steam so you avoid extra indirect steps involving Dll loaders and Mod Launchers, otherwise you're going to get locked out of 20% of the uploaded mods on the internet for Oblivion.
I had the same situation, and it turns out the glitches were caused by AULIS (Auto Update Leveled Items and Spells) mod. After removing it, I was able to use OBSE and its mods without any problems on GOG version, including OOO Updated.
For some reason OOO causes the game to fail to load (just stuck on loading screen) when I try to fast travel to certain places. I tried the imperial city market and bruma for example. It works if I disable the mod. It happens even if I reload and try again, but if I do a lot of things such as waiting it goes away for a bit.
I don't have a lot of mods: all dlcs unofficial patches for all engine fixes (new to try to fix the issue, no change) better cities and ooo compatibility kvatch rebuilt cm partners midas spells epic necromancy alternative start
it works fine except if I have ooo turned on (or forget to turn off better cities ooo patch)
I actually have OOO updated, so I posted over there, not sure how to delete this
guys is there any wau to disable traps on chests? it makes me angry and i cannot enjoy game. even with security 100 i die from traps almost every time. help pls
Yes when installing the patch I was able to toggle on/off the Trap Chest playing 'before you open the chest' or 'after you open the chest' (which I believe is the default style.)
There is no way to remove the trap lest you disable it using Security. The mod only makes the trap trigger initially or after closing.
If you can't get around it, and depending on your mods, I recommend Using Dispel, Open Lock, then Telekinesis for pure safety reasons, Dispel Touch or Target, Open Lock Target, and Telekinesis 10ft for 5 seconds.
I've noticed none of the vendors in my game lose/gain coin during transitions? This is immersion breaking and a bit annoying. Is it OOO? Or OCO? Or Maskars? All compatible.
As it turns out this is the way it functions in the default game. As it prevents a player from selling an item worth 2k to a vendor with only 500 gold. (Even if you were to inflate their small economy with a ton of purchases, they would still only be able to make a 500 gold purchase--which I suppose might make some sense in an immersive way: their books can only go so far or their skill/expertise is limiting them personally as people in the game, etc.)
This also makes the Mercantile perk of investing truly worth it now.
I'm wondering if your mod has changed Vampirism? I'm running Basic Primary Needs among other mods and I'm finding that I'm for some reason I'm never progressing in my Vampirism, ie never going from level 1 Vampire (contently satiated) to level 4 Vampire (maniacally fiending) -- even if my hunger and thirst drops to zero.
So yes, a complete description or even ReadMe would be GREATLY APPRECIATED :3
@PSchoenmann Unfortunately, it appears your problem is a conflict with other mods, you're going to need to individually go through reinstalling each mod till you find the conflict after creating a clean install.
I found this out by eliminating all mods other then what's necessary for BPN and OOO and there was no problems associated. I had both mods installed before with my full mod list and there was still no problems like what you're dealing with.
Anytime I try to rest or go to sleep, my character returns with their stamina, health and mana completely drained and the character is panting like they're out of breath. Needless to say I can't progress through a number of quests that require sleeping as a trigger for the next stage.
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I encounter an issue but not with this mod,
I noticed the potions in my game are not OScuro's but replaced by (i guess) the vanilla ones.
meaning health potions will no longer gradually regen, but instantly heal their amount.
I do not know which mod does this, so here is my Load order if someone can figure:
It is not Waalx (i tested removing the mod) and I doubt its Maskar because It used to work fine with both of them installed.
EDIT Turns out Maskar's ini setting regarding potions had changed, so I simply just re enabled it...
I feel dumb but I leave this here if it happens to someone else.
00 Oblivion.esm
01 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74]
02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.36]
03 Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
04 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.3.0]
05 Artifacts_Remastered.esm
06 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.6b]
++ Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9a]
09 Better Cities .esp [Version 6.3.0]
0A BrumasNorthernLights.esp
0B Consistent Beggar Voices.esp
0C GOSH.esp
0D WindowLightingSystem.esp
0E AliveWaters_nofish.esp
++ Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
0F PTFallingStars.esp
10 LootMenu.esp
11 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]
12 DLCHorseArmor.esp
13 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
14 DLCOrrery.esp
15 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
16 DLCVileLair.esp
17 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]
18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
19 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
1A DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
1B Book Jackets DLC.esp
1C GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
1D EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
1E Untold_Relics.esp
++ Weapon Improvement Project.esp [Version 1.9]
1F DLCThievesDen.esp
20 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15]
21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14]
22 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
23 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
24 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.36]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OOO-DLT_Remover.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]
25 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
26 WAC.esp
27 Ivellon.esp [Version 1.5]
28 Dungeons of Blackwood.esp [Version 2.0]
29 Dungeons of Tamriel.esp [Version 1.2]
2A EM_RedRoseManor.esp [Version 2.0]
2B EMRedRoseAddonCOBL.esp
2C FiveBlindMiceBeta.esp [Version 1.3]
2D RoadLights.esp
2E Star's Rest.esp [Version 3.03-Cobl]
2F The Forgotten Dungeon.esp
30 TheWellOfMinlorada.esp
31 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.8.2]
32 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
33 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12]
34 DLCFrostcrag.esp
35 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]
36 Knights.esp
37 Knights - Book Jackets.esp
38 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8]
39 Oblivion Uncut.esp
3A EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
3B Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
3C ElsweyrAnequina.esp
3D Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp
3E 00SnowyRoadToBruma.esp
++ DLCFrostcrag-SnowyRoad Patch.esp
3F BlackwoodJungle.esp
40 HackdirtAlive.esp
41 Frostcrag Village.esp [Version 1.0.8]
42 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]
43 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
44 Better Dungeons.esp
++ Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp
45 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
46 GMArcheryRebalance.esp [Version 1.0]
47 Reworked Posts.esp
++ ShinySeptims_Septimus.esp
++ Enhanced Vegetation SI.esp
48 GBRPCBB.esp
49 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]
4A Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.03]
++ OCO DLC Faces.esp
4B OCO Tweaks.esp
** NPC Hair Matches Beard.esp
4C tbskGuardsFeatures.esp
4D tbskGuardsFeaturesThornAddon.esp
4E tbskGuardsFeaturesKvatchAddon.esp
4F Better Cities FULL.esp [Version 6.3.0]
50 Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 6.3.0]
51 Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.3.0]
52 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.1.0]
53 Better Cities Full - OOO.esp [Version 6.2.4]
54 Better Cities Market District - Oblivion Uncut.esp [Version 6.0.12]
++ Better Imperial City - OOO.esp [Version 6.0.10]
55 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 6.2.4]
++ OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]
56 Falling Leaves.esp [Version 1.0]
++ Book Jackets DLC Misc.esp
57 PotionReplacer.esp
58 Diverse Effect Icons OBSE.esp
++ SGP Interior Draw Distance Fix.esp
++ DistinctAyleidBossChests.esp
++ GreyPrince.esp
59 Devastation of Kvatch Redux.esp
++ KvGuardFeaturesDevastationReduxPatch.esp
++ WaterFPS.esp
++ OCO_Eyes_Fix.esp
++ OCO Cleaned - Vanilla Hair.esp
5A NAO.esp
++ NAO-Brighter-Nights-Sam.esp
5B Tropical Gold Coast.esp
++ tbskGuardsFeatures-NoGreatHelmets.esp
5C Artifacts_Remastered.esp
++ Artifacts Remastered - Hood Leveled List Fix.esp [Version 1.0]
5D Improved Chests (OOO Compatible).esp
5E The Black Mirror - A Necromancer Shop.esp
5F SewersForEveryCity.esp
60 Sewers and Dungeons Linked in Every City.esp [Version 1.2]
61 Spire of Eternity.esp
62 Enhanced Grabbing - AI Voices.esp
63 TheFirmament.esp
64 efFishingMod.esp
65 EEC.esp
66 SI Unmarked Locations with markers.esp
67 SI Unmarked Locations without markers.esp
68 SI Palace Improvements.esp [Version 1.1]
69 SI Whispersins.esp [Version 1.2]
6A SINSOutskirts.esp [Version 1.4]
6B SICitiesExpanded.esp
6C SI Driftdwell.esp [Version 1.2]
6D Voyage Deserts Of Oblivion.esp
6E Elsweyr Mysteries.esp
++ Better Cities Leyawiin - Oblivion Uncut.esp [Version 6.2.2]
++ Better Cities Leyawiin - Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 6.2.2]
6F Bashed Patch, 0.esp
70 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.9.4.2]
I don't have any problems with OBSE on the GOG version. I put the obse_loader.exe from OBSE Loader 0021 GOG-37952-0021 in the oblivion (not the data) folder, along with Data, obse_1_2_416.dll and obse_editor_1_2.dll from OBSE 0021-37952-0021, and everything works perfectly for me.
Normally, if you do that, it should work. I think OBSE is also important for lots of other mods, so for me it is a necessity, there is not really a way around it.
What do you mean by "behave funny"?
However, a few minutes into the gameplay I inevitably come across completely random and weird behaviour (which is kind of amusing in itself):
- Spell effects out of nowhere (fire damage sound just after walking out of prison in tutorial)
- Items added to inventory when they shouldn't be (received rat meat while walking around near Bruma)
- Inability to make power attacks (animation just stops at holding back the weapon)
I posted in OBSE comment section, and one person told me that perhaps those two OBSE-dependent mods may be causing the problem. I played the game with OBSE, but without the mods - and sure enough, no glitches occurred. Then I re-enabled the mods, and had another glitch - I killed a Khajiit bandit near a fort, and heard Boethiah's booming voice - which is not supposed to happen outside of his "tournament" quest.
How on Earth things end up in such confused state is beyond my comprehension. This is likely a problem with one of those mods, even though they look legit to me, and their users never reported this kind of strangeness. I've heard that OBSE may be chaotic and tricky on some systems, perhaps I'm just the lucky one...
It's not that big of a problem for me, as I tend to keep my mod list very lean, and I can do just fine without OBSE (using TIE instead of OOO, for instance). But if I ever get the script extender up and running without issues, I'll be sure to give OOO Updated a go.
I don't have a lot of mods:
all dlcs
unofficial patches for all
engine fixes (new to try to fix the issue, no change)
better cities and ooo compatibility
kvatch rebuilt
cm partners
midas spells
epic necromancy
alternative start
it works fine except if I have ooo turned on (or forget to turn off better cities ooo patch)
I actually have OOO updated, so I posted over there, not sure how to delete this
There is no way to remove the trap lest you disable it using Security. The mod only makes the trap trigger initially or after closing.
(Even if you were to inflate their small economy with a ton of purchases, they would still only be able to make a 500 gold purchase--which I suppose might make some sense in an immersive way: their books can only go so far or their skill/expertise is limiting them personally as people in the game, etc.)
This also makes the Mercantile perk of investing truly worth it now.
I'm wondering if your mod has changed Vampirism?
I'm running Basic Primary Needs among other mods and I'm finding that I'm for some reason I'm never progressing in my Vampirism, ie never going from level 1 Vampire (contently satiated) to level 4 Vampire (maniacally fiending) -- even if my hunger and thirst drops to zero.
So yes, a complete description or even ReadMe would be GREATLY APPRECIATED :3
I found this out by eliminating all mods other then what's necessary for BPN and OOO and there was no problems associated.
I had both mods installed before with my full mod list and there was still no problems like what you're dealing with.
Anytime I try to rest or go to sleep, my character returns with their stamina, health and mana completely drained and the character is panting like they're out of breath. Needless to say I can't progress through a number of quests that require sleeping as a trigger for the next stage.
Is your character hungry/thirsty if you have a Needs Mod?
(Are you using any overhaul mods?)