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About this mod
Restoring Pre-Console South Vegas Ruins. OPEN and ACCESSIBLE. small changes to vanilla with a BIG DIFFERENCE
- Permissions and credits
Overview:
Experience [South Vegas Ruins] with no load screens, now considerably harder for low level players. Enjoy :)
Also a Modder's Resource for level designers
Like with any open location mod:
DO NOT INSTALL/UNINSTALL MIDPLAYTHROUGH.
Light load order is recommended. [255+ load orders will suffer]
Generating LODs is required or terrain will clip. Viva New Vegas has a step by step Guide here.
PCNV Features - The 5 Changes and WHY
+1. Open and accessible by moving the ruins into the worldspace.
+2. Removed rubble walls and neon signs between buildings.
+3. Kept rubble around buildings where it makes sense it would crumble.
+4. Train cars are now lined up to look derailed instead of stacked up.
+5. Restored Vault 3 Door animation by moving it inside.
Compatible - with location mods NVLOR, Enhanced Vegas Ruins, etc [Details Below]
Occlusion Planes - Performance boosting by disabling objects behind walls.
Static Collections - More performance by grouping together objects.
Quests work - Tested and works with vanilla quests in area.
Fully-navmeshed - Fiends will chase you in n out of the ruins.
Highly Recommended non intrusive mods:
PCNV Before/After:
Speculations:
Q&A: It's useful this time!
Q: What's PCNV?
A: [Pre Console New Vegas] mods aim to restore the OPEN WORLD VANILLA concept the devs had in mind before closing off and cutting areas just to make the game [barely] run on console hardware from 2005-06. Keep reading for future plans.
Upcoming Locations:
Camp McCarran
Aerotech Office Park
Nellis Air Force Base Hangars
Westside
North Vegas Square
Crimson Caravan
Camp Forlorn Hope Tents
Boulder City
[Yes there will be an AIO]
Q: What's the difference between PCNV and no load screens only?
A: No Loadscreens only version Barebones. This version only has 3 minor changes from vanilla.
Q: How is performance?
A: 50 fps With latest NVR and Stewie AI engine opt n the area. solid 60fps NVR off but this is 1 PC with 1 setup Your mileage may vary. More on Performance:
Q: How's compatibility?
A: Comment about a mod and I'll check for compatibility when available. Very compatible with most landscape overhaul mods. More on compatibility:
This mod touches everything inside the South Vegas Ruins. I did add multibounds for performance outside the walls but Any mod editing immediate outside area should be fine these only help with performance.
DO NOT file a bug report if it's a mod conflict.
Let me know in the comments if you find a conflict or compatibility with another mod so I may add it to the list below.
IF I use the mod I'll make a patch for it.
Patches available for:
New Vegas Bounties II - Moves Joe Cutty to the same position should work on theory lmk if it doesn't
FPGE - Moves NPCs veronica trigger to the right location.
More locations coming soon.
[Compatibility with other overhauls]
[100% safe to use along side Open Mojave]
Pre-release restored - Does not edit South Vegas interior/Exterior Load order does not matter.
[Load my Mod After for compatibility] why? These mods revert the landscape inside South Vegas Ruins and its very bumpyEnhanced Vegas Ruins - [only edits exterior]
New Vegas Landscape Overhaul Re-Remastered - [only edits exterior[
[Patch made by another Mod Author]
Enhanced Landscapes for NVLOR - Available on his Mod Page
[Patch available in Downloads]
FPGE - [Moves NPCs and veronica trigger to the right cell]
New Vegas Bounties II - [Moves Joe Cutty contract to the right cell]
[Needs Patch]
TBA
Permissions:
Open perms [except selling]. if you want to tweak, improve/destroy fps or overhaul to your liking you have permission.
All I want from you is give credit, link back to the original mod page and send me a link to your mod when its released.
Credits:
Qolore7 - Making Simple Open Strip/Freeside. A mod I took notes from.
Conor96 - "Are you going to open up all areas now or something?" well now I am.
PistolPayBack - Tips and tricks about how to use occlusion planes/multibounds.
Spifferino - The idea for making Vault 3 entrance part of the interior for extra eerie effect.
The MC - The voices in my head.
Triangle City - FNV Cutting room floor series.
Me - A hatred for loadscreens.
Experience [South Vegas Ruins] with no load screens, now considerably harder for low level players. Enjoy :)
Also a Modder's Resource for level designers
Like with any open location mod:
DO NOT INSTALL/UNINSTALL MIDPLAYTHROUGH.
Light load order is recommended. [255+ load orders will suffer]
Generating LODs is required or terrain will clip. Viva New Vegas has a step by step Guide here.
PCNV Features - The 5 Changes and WHY
+1. Open and accessible by moving the ruins into the worldspace.
+2. Removed rubble walls and neon signs between buildings.
+3. Kept rubble around buildings where it makes sense it would crumble.
+4. Train cars are now lined up to look derailed instead of stacked up.
+5. Restored Vault 3 Door animation by moving it inside.
Compatible - with location mods NVLOR, Enhanced Vegas Ruins, etc [Details Below]
Occlusion Planes - Performance boosting by disabling objects behind walls.
Static Collections - More performance by grouping together objects.
Quests work - Tested and works with vanilla quests in area.
Fully-navmeshed - Fiends will chase you in n out of the ruins.
Highly Recommended non intrusive mods:
Spoiler:
lStewieAl's Engine Optimizations - Why don't you have this mod? [Performance Details Below]
Auto Activate Invisible Door - Add "DMOPENVault3" to AAID.txt
DO NOT INSTALL/UNINSTALL MIDPLAYTHROUGH.
Light load order is recommended. [255+ load orders will suffer]
Show
lStewieAl's Engine Optimizations - Why don't you have this mod? [Performance Details Below]
Auto Activate Invisible Door - Add "DMOPENVault3" to AAID.txt
DO NOT INSTALL/UNINSTALL MIDPLAYTHROUGH.
Light load order is recommended. [255+ load orders will suffer]
PCNV Before/After:
Spoiler:
Show
Speculations:
Spoiler:
1. This cell fits 1:1 in the worldspace already, Listening to the cutting room floor by Triangle City made me realize just how much the devs were not aware how bad the performance was on consoles and had to cut/rearrange things in the game.
2. These rubble walls were put up to close off the area and served no other purpose.
3. self explanatory but they're ruins, there needs to some rubble around and it makes sense it's around buildings.
4. All I did was move every other train car of the top row and moved them down.
This leads me to think it was like this before closing off the area off and needing a higher wall the player can't jump over.
5. Based on no speculation it just looks cooler. Thanks for the idea Spiff.
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1. This cell fits 1:1 in the worldspace already, Listening to the cutting room floor by Triangle City made me realize just how much the devs were not aware how bad the performance was on consoles and had to cut/rearrange things in the game.
2. These rubble walls were put up to close off the area and served no other purpose.
3. self explanatory but they're ruins, there needs to some rubble around and it makes sense it's around buildings.
4. All I did was move every other train car of the top row and moved them down.
This leads me to think it was like this before closing off the area off and needing a higher wall the player can't jump over.
5. Based on no speculation it just looks cooler. Thanks for the idea Spiff.
Q&A: It's useful this time!
Q: What's PCNV?
A: [Pre Console New Vegas] mods aim to restore the OPEN WORLD VANILLA concept the devs had in mind before closing off and cutting areas just to make the game [barely] run on console hardware from 2005-06. Keep reading for future plans.
Spoiler:
My reason being the place is huge but the small entry point make it a bore to explore and the size of the cell makes my game load longer and it take me out of the game.Show
It all started with "what if I can move nellis hangars to the outside?"
Upcoming Locations:
Camp McCarran
Aerotech Office Park
Nellis Air Force Base Hangars
Westside
North Vegas Square
Crimson Caravan
Camp Forlorn Hope Tents
Boulder City
[Yes there will be an AIO]
Q: What's the difference between PCNV and no load screens only?
A: No Loadscreens only version Barebones. This version only has 3 minor changes from vanilla.
Spoiler:
Technically PCNV has better performance than the loadscreens only version since there's less objects.
+1. Open by moving the ruins into the worldspace.
+2. Removed Collision planes around walls but I placed some mines for fun.
+3. Restored Vault 3 Door animation by moving it inside.
same as description above
Compatible
Occlusion Planes
Static Collections
Quests work
Show
Technically PCNV has better performance than the loadscreens only version since there's less objects.
+1. Open by moving the ruins into the worldspace.
+2. Removed Collision planes around walls but I placed some mines for fun.
+3. Restored Vault 3 Door animation by moving it inside.
same as description above
Compatible
Occlusion Planes
Static Collections
Quests work
Q: How is performance?
A: 50 fps With latest NVR and Stewie AI engine opt n the area. solid 60fps NVR off but this is 1 PC with 1 setup Your mileage may vary. More on Performance:
Spoiler:
BTW in case I haven't mentioned it heavy load orders meaning 255+ esps with 200 4k texture mods are going to notice dips.
If, somehow for whatever reason you aren't using the Engine Optimizations here are my results with before and after optimizations while looking at the vault 3 warehouse. from the other side with/without occlusion planes and everything loading in front of you along with:
New Vegas Reloaded - Known to have a performance impact.
Occlusion Planes - Hide objects out of view.
No StewieAI's Engine Opt + No Occlusion Planes + No NVR: 35 FPS
StewieAI's Engine Opt + Occlusion Planes + WITH NVR: 55 - 60 FPS
StewieAI's Engine Opt + Occlusion Planes + No NVR: Solid 60 FPS [I capped mine at 60]
Your performance will vary based on your specs but its clear the mod benefits from the Engine Optimizations.
My specs for comparison:
GTX 1080ti
Ryzen 7 5700x
20gb RAM
M2 SSD
Show
BTW in case I haven't mentioned it heavy load orders meaning 255+ esps with 200 4k texture mods are going to notice dips.
If, somehow for whatever reason you aren't using the Engine Optimizations here are my results with before and after optimizations while looking at the vault 3 warehouse. from the other side with/without occlusion planes and everything loading in front of you along with:
New Vegas Reloaded - Known to have a performance impact.
Occlusion Planes - Hide objects out of view.
No StewieAI's Engine Opt + No Occlusion Planes + No NVR: 35 FPS
StewieAI's Engine Opt + Occlusion Planes + WITH NVR: 55 - 60 FPS
StewieAI's Engine Opt + Occlusion Planes + No NVR: Solid 60 FPS [I capped mine at 60]
Your performance will vary based on your specs but its clear the mod benefits from the Engine Optimizations.
My specs for comparison:
GTX 1080ti
Ryzen 7 5700x
20gb RAM
M2 SSD
Q: How's compatibility?
A: Comment about a mod and I'll check for compatibility when available. Very compatible with most landscape overhaul mods. More on compatibility:
Spoiler:
Test first - This is an overhaul. Always test to see if it works with your load order.Show
This mod touches everything inside the South Vegas Ruins. I did add multibounds for performance outside the walls but Any mod editing immediate outside area should be fine these only help with performance.
DO NOT file a bug report if it's a mod conflict.
Let me know in the comments if you find a conflict or compatibility with another mod so I may add it to the list below.
IF I use the mod I'll make a patch for it.
Patches available for:
New Vegas Bounties II - Moves Joe Cutty to the same position should work on theory lmk if it doesn't
FPGE - Moves NPCs veronica trigger to the right location.
More locations coming soon.
[Compatibility with other overhauls]
[100% safe to use along side Open Mojave]
Pre-release restored - Does not edit South Vegas interior/Exterior Load order does not matter.
[Load my Mod After for compatibility] why? These mods revert the landscape inside South Vegas Ruins and its very bumpyEnhanced Vegas Ruins - [only edits exterior]
New Vegas Landscape Overhaul Re-Remastered - [only edits exterior[
[Patch made by another Mod Author]
Enhanced Landscapes for NVLOR - Available on his Mod Page
[Patch available in Downloads]
FPGE - [Moves NPCs and veronica trigger to the right cell]
New Vegas Bounties II - [Moves Joe Cutty contract to the right cell]
[Needs Patch]
TBA
Permissions:
Open perms [except selling]. if you want to tweak, improve/destroy fps or overhaul to your liking you have permission.
All I want from you is give credit, link back to the original mod page and send me a link to your mod when its released.
Credits:
Qolore7 - Making Simple Open Strip/Freeside. A mod I took notes from.
Conor96 - "Are you going to open up all areas now or something?" well now I am.
PistolPayBack - Tips and tricks about how to use occlusion planes/multibounds.
Spifferino - The idea for making Vault 3 entrance part of the interior for extra eerie effect.
The MC - The voices in my head.
Triangle City - FNV Cutting room floor series.
Me - A hatred for loadscreens.
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