Hey there, I was using this mod just fine last night, no issues, chambered in 22LR as usual, but when I booted the game this morning, all my rifles are using 5.56 again, instead of the 5.56 S as indicated in the Pip-boy last night. I haven't changed anything about my setup between sessions, so I'm a little lost as to why this is happening.
The Varmint Rifle really should've been a semi-automatic based on the Ruger 10/22, Marlin Model 60, and Savage Model 64. Then you can rename the bolt-action "varmint rifle" to a Sporting Carbine or Hunting Carbine, and keep the 5.56mm ammo change. Bam, then you got two relatively good weapons that fill early game niches until the Service Rifle, and Hunting Rifle respectively.
Okay so this thread is mostly dead but I just wanted to say I never realized the Varmint rifle being 5.56 until I started playing NV again. Well I should say, I probably did notice but didn't know enough about guns back then for it to bother me, and now it REALLY bothers me. And for a few reasons. One, why the hell would you be shooting rats with a round that will disintegrate it? Two, what varmint rifle would be CHAMBERED in 5.56? Three, it only does 16 damage where the marksman carbine does 24, and the 5.56 pistol doing 28 (the fact that these very at all per shot is ridiculous. This simply shows a lack of understanding of how bullets work on the developers part, being that a 5.56 is a 5.56 is a 5.56, and there would be no noticeable difference in performance in any of these guns sans reloading times and rate of fire. A .223 would be less powerful, because it is a lesser grain bullet, but still the exact same size. The fact that they call the varmint rifle "a low powered rifle" literally infuriates me to no end because it implies somehow that the marksman carbine can somehow shoot a bullet faster and with more force, except that's not how guns work. If a gun has enough force to hit the primer and cause it to go off, the bullet determines the speed, not the gun. The bullets are designed to go at a certain speed by the amount of powder in their cases. Hitting the primer less hard (but still with a enough force to activate) would not make the bullet go any slower or be any less powerful. It's just dumb, literally even in a world full of dumb unrealistic things that we all overlook for the sake of a good game, to me this is not one of them. For me this is simply a necessary realism mod, nothing to do with making the game harder at all for me. (That and making a 5.56 to the head or upper torso almost always kill, since without level 3 Kevlar you aren't taking more than one or two rounds of that s#*!, and with no armor you're not taking more than one to any part of your body except for maybe an arm without dying (unless it hits an artery)).
Anyway I'm really bored at 3am and seeing the varmint rifle in 5.56 finally pissed me off enough to look up if someone had something about this travesty. Now that I've wasted my time posting this on a dead thread and a probably dead modding community, I say thank you and goodnight.
Actually there would be a difference, for a 5.56/45 NATO round in particular, it doesn't perform that well from short-barreled weapons. It loses a lot of velocity, so the damage for a 5.56 pistol would be substantially lower then from a rifle of any kind. So, to be truly realistic, all rifle-length weapons in 5.56 would have the same damage, but the 5.56 pistol would have about 25-30% lower damage, more or less.
Also if you take into account the fact that longer barrel gives more velocity most of the time there is no way 223 pistol will hit harder than a rifle shooting same caliber. most of the pistols shooting harder than a 5.56nato rifle is just absurd.
Just fact checking here, .223/5.56 is a common varmint hunting round.
"Rimfire firearms (such as the highly popular .22 LR caliber) are best used to shoot small vermin such as squirrels and rats at close distances, and are somewhat underpowered for many outdoor rodents (which are often alert enough to spot hunters from a long distance away and flee or hide underground), small predators such as coyotes and larger feral animals such as goats and pigs." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varmint_rifle
The gun itself is probably modeled after the Ruger American ranch rifle.
still kind of dead here but I do want to give my 2 cents as a gun nut myself. So .223 is considered a varmint round because farmers and hunters do use that caliber for varmints coyotes, groundhogs, bobcats, etc. Rodents are a different story, you would certainly use a .22lr or .17hmr for rats and squirrels also up to possums, raccoons, and rabbits. For Fallout, I guess Rat Slayer's name would make sense because they went from small pests that a single .22lr would kill to a larger varmint needing a larger caliber to kill effectively. Though the varmint rifle does feel underpowered like it is firing a 22lr which makes sense that they planned for it to be. I do think the differences between the three 5.56 rifles in the game are dumb and ill-thought-out. Raise the damage of the varmint rifle and service rifle add a scope weapon mod to it and just drop the marksman's carbine because it becomes redundant. Could also add a full auto weapon mod to the service rifle and drop the assault carbine too.
ok, looks like you don't know much about guns either. the Marksman carbine should do MORE damage than the 5.56 pistol because the speed of the bullet is determined by barrel length. how? the length of the barrel determines how much powder gets burned and gas expands before the bullet leaves the barrel. if you have more gas expansion behind the bullet, the bullet will be pushed harder therefore increasing velocity and by extension, power. so actually, since the varmint rifle has a longer barrel and is bolt action so the chamber is more sealed so there is less escapage for the gas, the varmint rifle should be one of the harder hitting 5.56 weapons. so, now with that covered, there SHOULD be variation in damage, but they got it completely backwards.
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im having the same problem even if i start a new game the varmint rifle sunny gives shows 5.56
Anyway I'm really bored at 3am and seeing the varmint rifle in 5.56 finally pissed me off enough to look up if someone had something about this travesty. Now that I've wasted my time posting this on a dead thread and a probably dead modding community, I say thank you and goodnight.
"Rimfire firearms (such as the highly popular .22 LR caliber) are best used to shoot small vermin such as squirrels and rats at close distances, and are somewhat underpowered for many outdoor rodents (which are often alert enough to spot hunters from a long distance away and flee or hide underground), small predators such as coyotes and larger feral animals such as goats and pigs."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varmint_rifle
The gun itself is probably modeled after the Ruger American ranch rifle.